NESCAC

Started by LaPaz, September 11, 2011, 05:54:52 PM

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Mr.Right

Tufts does not have a POY but will have 3 or 4 First team guys on the conference team. Bull has had his worst year this year compared to his prior 2 years. Conn have always played Amherst extremely tough and I have to agree against Colby they were struggling in the final 3rd. Even with all those injuries Conn has enough talent to make it a game. They certainly have just as much talent right now as Colby so there is always a chance. Slim...but a chance

PaulNewman

Bull might have had a couple more handling errors than in the past, but his distribution and ability to consistently put his team in the other team's 18 are deadly.  A VERY valuable player. 

As you all talk about these teams and their weaknesses I find myself disappointed that Wesleyan is out.  They really screwed up conceding a home playoff game to Williams.  For me they were one of the more talented and balanced teams across the board.  Bratt in the back, a loaded midfield, Cowie-Haskell and then Lynch coming on who was very dangerous.  I liked the way they played although I wish they had been a little more offensive.  They played an excellent game on the road against Midd and should have won.

Conn had their game of the year and will be exhausted. Amherst wins by 3 or 4 goals.

arkman

NCAC I couldn't disagree more. Conn has only given up 3 goals once this season in a 3-1 loss to Tufts. They have a week to rest and possibly get Patch back and I don't think Amherst's offense is as good as you think. They have only scored multiple goals this season in NESCAC against Trinity (a team that very much struggles to deal with physicality), Williams (who pressed forward almost suicidally, but still a surprising result), and early-season Colby. They've scored one goal in every other game, including a 1-0 win v. Conn. They tied amherst 0-0 last year and lost 1-0 this year. They can certainly defend the lord jeffs, but can they score goals? I think not.

Mr.Right

Agreed on Bull. You are correct.

Also, I agree with you about Wesleyan as they deserved to beat Midd but their GK killed them. He was their weak link all year and had they had Purdy in net they could have had a year like 2009 with an offensively challenged team, organized defensively, excellent midfield defending and dangerous play makers. I compared this years team with 2009 before the season and had they had some great Goalkeeping it could have been really good

Nutmeg

I think Bull had a down year. Tufts players to be considered are Williams, Kayne, Santos, Brown and maybe Hoppenot and Greenwood....

Nutmeg

Also agree with Mr. Right that that Shapiro wins COY in a very close vote.  does anyone know how much input a coach has for his one players.  I know often coaches submit their own players that they think deserve it....and are choices completely based on stats?

Mr.Right

Each coach votes on First team players based on a certain amount of selections each coach puts out for players on his own team.

Nutmeg

Do teams with better records have more input or votes?

Mr.Right

Absolutely NOT...

Mr.Right

The disdain for Amherst has seen some deserving players not get awards. The worst case was in 2012 when Spencer Noon did not win POY and I think they had only 1 or 2 First team players. Serpone took offense and rightly so and proceeded to ask in 2013 for about an hour of conversation on a conference call giving each team about 7 minutes to talk about why their players deserve to make first team, 2nd team etc..This was not well received by the other coaches.

Nutmeg

So that call never took place?  Do u think some coaches confer about it before voting?

Mr.Right

The call did take place much to the disdain of the coaches.

Maybe a couple confer about it but to be honest most coaches lazily just look at stats and how the player performed against their own team. Also they look at prior years...For instance Matt Muralles for Williams had a great career with many nominations and awards racked up in his 3 years prior to this year. He was one of a couple reasons why Williams failed this year. He did not work hard and let his teammates down with selfish and disenchanting play. He was a major disappointment but you may have a coach vote for him anyway.

MENESCACFAN

I am going to guess at a 3-4-3, but here is All-NESCAC from my observations.  Thoughts of others?  Let's see who can get most of 11 for a bit of fun.  Let's not tell others why they are wrong (we all watch different samples throughout fall), simply state your own 11, will be fun to compare with real All-NESCAC 11 when it comes out.

GK - Greg Sydor (Middlebury)
D - Nabil Odulate (Bowdoin)
D - Sam Williams (Tufts)
D - Gabriel Wirz (Amherst)
M - Adam Jones (Bowdoin)
M - Tim Shea (Trinity)
M - Jason Kayne (Tufts)
M - Rui Pinheiro (Tufts)
F - Zach Grady (Williams)
F - Greg Conrad (Middlebury)
F - Nico Pascual-Leone (Amherst)

Mr.Right

Telling others why they are wrong is the best part for me. Does that ruin your time on the site? Can you go over your rules for this board again?


Mr.Right

4-3-3

G- Scott Greenwood- Tufts
D- Geoff Danilack- Williams
D- Sam Williams- Tufts
D- Gabe Wirz- Amherst
D- Ben Bratt- Wesleyan
M- Gus Santos- Tufts
M- Greg Conrad- Midd
M- Jason Kayne- Tufts
F- Zach Grady- Williams
F- Nico Pascual Leone- Amherst
F- Adam Glazer- Midd