NESCAC

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lastguyoffthebench

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Tom DeGeorge, Robbie White, and Ben Swan were the trio that put Arcadia on the map.    I think they got pummelled at Messiah in 02...  After that they had some battles with Eastern in the PAC, but faded away.   

oldonionbag

NEW ENGLAND REGION (data sheet)
   School   
1   Brandeis   16-2-0   16-2-0
2   Wheaton    16-2-2   16-2-2
3   Coast   13-1-3   13-1-3
4   Amherst   12-1-3   12-1-3
5   Babson   14-5-0   14-5-0
6   Tufts   10-2-4   10-2-4
7   WPI           13-4-0   13-4-0
8   Gordon   14-4-1   14-4-1
9   Middlebury9-3-4   9-3-4
10   Wesleyan   8-5-3   8-5-3
11   Nichols   12-2-4   12-2-4

All NESCAC

Still amazed that Coast Guard is ranked ahead of Amherst....having seen both teams play I'm not sure if a handful of Coast Guard players would even make the Amherst roster(and not sure if any would start)....I guess playing a bunker mentality defensive style all year continues to get Coast Guard results and the higher ranking...but if they get to play in the NCAA...my $$ is on Amherst in a big way.

oldonionbag

I know they tied Wheaton, but looking at the teams below Coast Guard...I think Amherst, Tufts, Babson, Middlebury, and Wesleyan would all beat them, having seen each team play multiple times.

I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see CGA making it past the first-round of the NCAAs if they draw a creative team (with a few flashy players like a Santos from Tufts) or a physical team with big men up top, like a Conrad from Midd.

Mr. Not Right

All NESCAC thoughts:

POY - Pascual-Leone. Glaser is the best player in the league IMO, but don't think he will get the votes here.

ROY - Merchant. Along with Knoth, he carried a pretty weak Bates team since returning from injury. Very good + dangerous two-way player.

COY - Shapiro. I think Seabrook deserves it for getting the absolute most out of a Colby squad that was horrible last year, graduated its two best players, and didn't have any great incoming players. However, I don't think he wins this award, Shapiro has done a great job to turn the Tufts team around.

First Team

GK – Sydor (Middlebury)
D – Bratt (Wesleyan)
D – Odulate (Bowdoin)
D – Williams (Tufts)
M – Santos (Tufts)
M – Devlin (Conn)
M – Martin (Amherst)
M – Pascual – Leone (Amherst)
F – Conrad (Middlebury)
F – Grady (Williams)
F – Glaser (Middlebury)


Second Team

GK – Bull (Amherst)
D – Wirz (Amherst)
D – Danilack (Williams)
D – Stanton (Colby)
M – Shea (Trinity)
M – Merchant (Bates)
M – Kayne (Tufts)
M – Goss – Woliner (Middlebury)
M – Jones (Bowdoin)
F – Knoth (Bates)
F – Savonen (Trinity)

Off Pitch

Most difficult schedules in New England according to the 11/5 data sheet are below:

1. Brandeis        0.633
2. Babson          0.602
3. Wesleayan     0.600
4. Wheaton       0.597
5. Amherst         0.587
6. Coast Guard  0.580
7. Tufts              0.576

These are the only teams with SOS over 0.575.  ALL of these teams are ranked as SOS is clearly being rewarded.

Mr.Right

Quote from: Mr. Not Right on November 05, 2014, 05:46:56 PM
All NESCAC thoughts:

POY - Pascual-Leone. Glaser is the best player in the league IMO, but don't think he will get the votes here.

ROY - Merchant. Along with Knoth, he carried a pretty weak Bates team since returning from injury. Very good + dangerous two-way player.

COY - Shapiro. I think Seabrook deserves it for getting the absolute most out of a Colby squad that was horrible last year, graduated its two best players, and didn't have any great incoming players. However, I don't think he wins this award, Shapiro has done a great job to turn the Tufts team around.

First Team

GK – Sydor (Middlebury)
D – Bratt (Wesleyan)
D – Odulate (Bowdoin)
D – Williams (Tufts)
M – Santos (Tufts)
M – Devlin (Conn)
M – Martin (Amherst)
M – Pascual – Leone (Amherst)
F – Conrad (Middlebury)
F – Grady (Williams)
F – Glaser (Middlebury)


Second Team

GK – Bull (Amherst)
D – Wirz (Amherst)
D – Danilack (Williams)
D – Stanton (Colby)
M – Shea (Trinity)
M – Merchant (Bates)
M – Kayne (Tufts)
M – Goss – Woliner (Middlebury)
M – Jones (Bowdoin)
F – Knoth (Bates)
F – Savonen (Trinity)




This is obviously MENSNESCACFAN. Your constant hard on for Bates, Colby and Odualte gave you away. NICE TRY

Mr.Right

With Middlebury knocked down to #9 past Gordon which is a complete joke they now have to win the whole thing. Tufts is going to be sweating now because they are knocked down to #6. Last year New England went 7 deep with MIT getting a At large at #7 but I do not think they will go that deep this year.

Mr.Right

Gordon is 14-4-1 with a .545 SOS which is not good and a 0-1-0 record v ranked. The only reason they are still there is because their AD is the commitee head. They have a crap SOS, they do not go out and play any ranked teams and are rewarded with a #8 seed. FLAWED SYSTEM

PaulNewman

Not a debate I'm that interested in, but I will say there is no way Gordon's schedule is tougher than Luther's, so there is something wrong with the SOS calculation and obviously great variability in how different regions rank.

Mr.Right

tell me about it. Gordon in OT right now with Roger Williams so hopefully this puts them to bed for GOOD

Off Pitch

Quote from: Mr.Right on November 05, 2014, 08:51:09 PM
With Middlebury knocked down to #9 past Gordon which is a complete joke they now have to win the whole thing. Tufts is going to be sweating now because they are knocked down to #6. Last year New England went 7 deep with MIT getting a At large at #7 but I do not think they will go that deep this year.

Quite simply, Gordon is ranked ahead of Middlebury because they have a better winning % AND a better SOS than Middlebury.

Gordon 14-4-1 (.763) and SOS .545
Middlebury 9-3-4 (.688) and SOS .533

Mr.Right

You and the band of idiots better known as the committee are correct however the formula is severely flawed and needs to be revised. Midd would beat Gordon 3-0

Off Pitch

Yes, we all get that you think that a NESCAC team would never lose a "pretend" game.  However, the committee has a responsibility to be objective, not to use your eye test viewed through NESCAC colored glasses.

Mr.Right

Right.....and there SOS is extremely objective