NESCAC

Started by LaPaz, September 11, 2011, 05:54:52 PM

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PaulNewman

Maybe it would be good for Amherst to get off that field and go elsewhere.  Maybe it's been a negative for them these last 2-3 years.

Corazon

Quote from: Bucket on November 09, 2014, 02:34:56 PM
Quote from: Corazon on November 09, 2014, 12:53:13 PM
Regarding the Amherst backlash, I can tell you that the players are very loyal to the coaching staff and the parents are happy with their sons' choice.

No backlash here. Just an observation of a culture of arrogance that surrounds Lord Jeffs athletics. At least they have a reason to be arrogant—they're good at just about everything. They're kinda like the Yankees. (And I say this as a Yankee fan.) Rather dispute that everyone thinks you're arrogant, embrace this.

I have no reason to doubt the players are extremely loyal to the coaching staff. They should be. Justin Serpone has developed a hell of a program. And I'll offer another contrary opinion: I like Serpone.

Also, I'm sure parents are thrilled with their kids' choices. Who wouldn't be!?

For a fun and humorous take on Amherst's arrogance, just take a gander at this great episode from the Middlebury hoops documentary. Another sport, obviously. But the opinion is the same.

http://vimeo.com/87147196

Thanks, Bucket. I enjoyed the video. 😎

Mr.Right

Well hopefully they get to Brandeis as I think their field plus the turf will help them

FourMoreYears

Quote from: Brother Flounder on November 09, 2014, 03:00:03 PM
Yep, Bull was a real tool.  Hope Greenwood beats him out for 1st team.  That was classless...... I still think Tufts makes it to the tourney but will probably lose some sleep tonight. Being on top of the regular season standings just may get them in. Congrats to the Bears... Amherst had its chances..... Bears sucked it up in pks......

I would be curious from somebody more familiar with the program and the coach:

Does Serpone
(a) encourage
(b) condone
(c) tolerate
(d) discourage
(e) ignore
(f) chastise
(g) punish

the type of boorish behavior displayed by his keeper today?

Mr.Right

That was nothing check out the more egregious throw in by Max Fickke in 2012 into a Williams player sternum. Then 2 weeks later an Amherst woman's player does the same in a video that goes viral into a colby players.

Ever since Suzanne Coffey became the AD this crap has been getting bad. She let all this go on and I believe Serpone got punished for boorish behavior in the 2008 NCAA's by having an Amherst rep stand with him on the sideline in 2009. I might have the years wrong. This has been said over and over and nothing changes. I like most teams now just choose to ignore it and one +++ is it makes beating him all the more fun.

Mr.Right

Bowdoin wins Nescac scoring 0 goals in 220 minutes. It reminds me of Middlebury winning the NCAA's in 2007. Same deal. Brian Bush got the MVP. I would imagine Stevie gets the MVP here and has started to really play well.

PaulNewman

Mr.Right, I don't see Amherst getting home field over Oneonta, Brandeis or SLU.  So you must have them ahead of Wheaton, Cortland or maybe a Muhlenberg

Jump4Joy

Congrats to Bowdoin. But please. Both goalies were trying to get in the kickers' heads. Just because one got down on his knee as if to pray doesn't mean he wasn't delaying the kick.
Also, the karma idea doesn't fly with me. Not like the Jeffs got there by cheating.
Anyway, Bowdoin executed their game plan and won it all despite not scoring all weekend. GK comes up huge both days. They get the AQ they desperately needed for their only shot at NCAA. Kudos.

PaulNewman

J4J, there is no comparison to be made.  The Bowdoin GK didn't flail around or intrude on the PK takers' space or go grab the ball and slowly walk it up to the kicker, act like he is personally handing him the ball and then aggressively place the ball on the spot, and then gyrate wildly slowly all the way back to goal and then continue gesticulating and moving side to side just before and during the kick.  Not a close call on this one.

Mr.Right

Thats if Oneonta is put in New England. Usually only one NY team hosts in New England region. I think Amherst passes Wheaton and Coast Guard based on thei 1-0-1  record. Like I said a lot is up in there air. They could be shipped up to SLU like in 2010.

Corazon

Quote from: NCAC New England on November 09, 2014, 04:05:39 PM
J4J, there is no comparison to be made.  The Bowdoin GK didn't flail around or intrude on the PK takers' space or go grab the ball and slowly walk it up to the kicker, act like he is personally handing him the ball and then aggressively place the ball on the spot, and then gyrate wildly slowly all the way back to goal and then continue gesticulating and moving side to side just before and during the kick.  Not a close call on this one.

My favorite was when Bull hung from the crossbar and swayed back and forth 😋

Jump4Joy

I saw nothing new here. Keepers have been doing it forever. They need every advantage, as the odds are stacked against them. Sometimes the posters here seem very thin skinned. It's not golf at the country club. I forgive Bull on this one just as I forgive the Bowdoin keeper for delaying the game with every goal kick in The second half and both OTs, and how I forgive his supposed genuflections during PKs.

Mr.Right

It was like the German back up keeper in the World Cup and Calvin's keeper yesterday. The best way to shove it in his face is to score and win, which is what Bowdoin did.  It is ridiculous behavior but until a rule is put in place it will continue

Bucket

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Quote from: FourMoreYears on November 09, 2014, 03:10:03 PM
Quote from: Brother Flounder on November 09, 2014, 03:00:03 PM
Yep, Bull was a real tool.  Hope Greenwood beats him out for 1st team.  That was classless...... I still think Tufts makes it to the tourney but will probably lose some sleep tonight. Being on top of the regular season standings just may get them in. Congrats to the Bears... Amherst had its chances..... Bears sucked it up in pks......

I would be curious from somebody more familiar with the program and the coach:

Does Serpone
(a) encourage
(b) condone
(c) tolerate
(d) discourage
(e) ignore
(f) chastise
(g) punish

the type of boorish behavior displayed by his keeper today?

Serpone himself was a keeper, and seeing that he's a feisty guy, I'm sure he doesn't mind the head games.

I thought Bull was over the top, but not egregiously so. But if you are going to act that way, you better show up and make the stops. The best revenge is scoring, which Bowdoin did. But whatever. I'd have far less tolerance if anyone taunted once the game was over. And to be fair, Stevie did his share of showboating yesterday, making a point to demonstratively stare down Glaser after he stopped his PK. 

I chuckle a bit at the poster who decried the keeper's antics, yet cheered at the Bowdoin player's gloating after scoring. I agree that the Bowdoin kid had the final say by putting the ball in the net. If you don't like the keeper's behavior, the goal should be enough. But to then cheer on the scorer's gloating...well, isn't that a touch hypocritical?

Either love both or decry both; you can't pick and choose.

Jump4Joy

Good point, fair point, Bucket