NESCAC

Mr.Right · October 20, 2015, 02:18:20 PM

Quote from: NCAC New England on October 20, 2015, 02:00:26 PM
RE: NESCAC bid picture...

I do NOT expect Conn to be in position to get a bid on selection day.

Amherst looks like the only absolute lock.

I expect Midd and Tufts to get bids, but I would not be shocked (surprised, yes) to see one of these play themselves out of a bid with another unexpected loss and/or a quarterfinal loss in NESCAC tourney.

Beyond those three, I think Williams and Wesleyan have a 30/70 chance that could improve to 70/30 IF one of them can hold to one more blemish or less and get to the NESCAC final. I slightly favor Williams over Wes for this to happen, although Wes could have their luck turn and win an OT game in the tourney and/ get an advance on PKs. If Midd or Tufts falter then the optimistic scenario for one of these could go up to 80/20, like say Williams or Wes takes out Midd or Tufts in the quarters.

The rest IMHO (including Conn) will have to win the AQ.

So 3 bids VERY likely and a possible 4.

Lets remember Wesleyan has the very important Haverford win. If they draw Amherst and they have a draw v Tufts and win the rest and get to Semi's they have a chance.

Let's remember Conn College beat ECONN which will help. They must beat Wesleyan and WIN OUT and reach Final.

I am not impressed with MIdd's resume as their only 2 legit wins are against Wesleyan and Conn, so if neither or those are regionally ranked they are in trouble.

Tufts is the exception even at 7-3-2. Their SOS and OWP will be HIGH. They beat Midd, Gordon, Conn. Tied Wesleyan. They MUST beat Williams and Bowdoin and reach Semi's with at least a PK loss and they will be in.

Mr.Right · October 20, 2015, 04:29:15 PM

Colby holding Bowdoin 0-0 midway thru the 2nd Half....This is unacceptable for Bowdoin...They must get this game...

Mid dominating Plymouth 4-0 2nd Half

Conn scores to go up 1-0 on Framingham 1st Half

Mr.Right · October 20, 2015, 05:12:35 PM

Bowdoin v Colby 0-0 heading into 2OT....Bowdoin must push #'s forward...A loss is worse than a draw at this point. A draw does them no good....They need to win this game

Mr.Right · October 20, 2015, 05:16:43 PM

God is Colby UGLY to watch...wasting time, whacking everything in sight, long throws....This team deserves to be buried in two weeks

Mr.Right · October 20, 2015, 05:26:54 PM

Bowdoin cannot get it done Final Score Bowdoin v Colby 0-0....Very disappointing. I suppose Colby is still in the race but good god are they UGLY to watch...Hopefully Seabrook applies for that Northeastern job, Nescac would be better off w/o his style of play

Corazon · October 20, 2015, 05:28:24 PM

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 20, 2015, 05:26:54 PM
Bowdoin cannot get it done Final Score Bowdoin v Colby 0-0....Very disappointing. I suppose Colby is still in the race but good god are they UGLY to watch...Hopefully Seabrook applies for that Northeastern job, Nescac would be better off w/o his style of play

Ha ha. Zero chance.

blooter442 · October 20, 2015, 05:29:15 PM

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 20, 2015, 05:16:43 PM
God is Colby UGLY to watch...wasting time, whacking everything in sight, long throws....This team deserves to be buried in two weeks

Pretty pathetic game, but Bowdoin was just not good enough on the day. They play the ball out to the wings, but they don't seem to have any pace down the sides and their final ball was absolutely pathetic on multiple occasions. Colby looked like they were going to steal it with about 10 seconds left, as the guy had rounded Van Siclen, but he fluffed it and was blown for offsides.

Also, with 1 left in 2OT, seemed like sheer cowardice from the ref to give the free-kick just outside the box. Unbelievable. Looked in the box and a stonewall penalty to me.

Mr.Right · October 20, 2015, 05:31:35 PM

Yea it was a close call....Bowdoin should have plenty of pace on the wings with Andrew Jones and CJ Masterson...

Off Pitch · October 20, 2015, 06:05:00 PM

Now Bowdoin (6-3-3) is going to have to win at Conn AND at Tufts to have any chance for a Pool C at all. Only one team got a Pool C bid with as many as 5 losses and 3 ties last year, and Rochester had a better SOS than Bowdoin will have. In 2013, two teams got in with 6 losses (Williams 11-6-0 and Luther 14-6-0), but they did not have the ties that each count as half a loss.

Bucket · October 20, 2015, 06:52:09 PM

Quote from: Off Pitch on October 20, 2015, 06:05:00 PM
Now Bowdoin (6-3-3) is going to have to win at Conn AND at Tufts to have any chance for a Pool C at all. Only one team got a Pool C bid with as many as 5 losses and 3 ties last year, and Rochester had a better SOS than Bowdoin will have. In 2013, two teams got in with 6 losses (Williams 11-6-0 and Luther 14-6-0), but they did not have the ties that each count as half a loss.

Pool C?

Bowdoin is fighting to make the NESCAC tournament...

Off Pitch · October 20, 2015, 07:19:55 PM

If Trinity beats Wesleyan AND Bates wins at Colby, then Bowdoin would need to win one of Conn and Tufts to make the NESCAC tournament

Corazon · October 20, 2015, 07:53:09 PM

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 20, 2015, 05:16:43 PM
God is Colby UGLY to watch...wasting time, whacking everything in sight, long throws....This team deserves to be buried in two weeks

I have to agree with you here. They are truly unwatchable. Thankfully, they are an outlier even in a league known for direct play. If there's an uglier style than Seabrook's in the country, I'd love to hear about it. Laughable that some (includeding yours truly) lauded his coaching last year.

Speaking of playing style, I've enjoyed watching Tufts and Conn this year. Old Williams in the past as well.

1970s NESCAC Player · October 21, 2015, 10:05:53 AM

Quote from: Corazon on October 20, 2015, 07:53:09 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 20, 2015, 05:16:43 PM
God is Colby UGLY to watch...wasting time, whacking everything in sight, long throws....This team deserves to be buried in two weeks

I have to agree with you here. They are truly unwatchable. Thankfully, they are an outlier even in a league known for direct play. If there's an uglier style than Seabrook's in the country, I'd love to hear about it. Laughable that some (includeding yours truly) lauded his coaching last year.

Speaking of playing style, I've enjoyed watching Tufts and Conn this year. Old Williams in the past as well.

You are both being a bit harsh on Colby. I'm not going to argue with your assessment of their watchability, but we're down to the business end of the season and teams like Colby must now do whatever they can to continue playing into the postseason. Seabrook inherited a pretty good roster, but 9-10 of those guys are gone this year (and then he lost his captain early in the season), so it is a total reboot. I've noticed that he has shortened his bench and has probably settled on whatever style will concede the least and give them some kind of chance going forward. If we're still seeing this style two years from now, then blast away, but you should cut him a bit of slack in the short run.

NewEngland · October 21, 2015, 11:09:50 AM

I think Amherst and Midd will get bids. Conn could get in with wins over Bowdoin and Wesleyan putting them at (11-3-1) and then two playoff wins. They have some work to do but dont have any bad losses. Losses to Midd, Tufts and Amherst and a tie against Williams.

Mr.Right · October 21, 2015, 11:41:40 AM

Again Bad losses to ranked teams are worse than losses to non-ranked teams...Conn has 1 legit win against ECONN...They must beat Wesleyan but then I do not think Wesleyan will be ranked if Conn and Amherst beat them...Another catch-22.....Conn has plenty of work left BUT the New England rep for Nescac is Conn's coach Kenny Murphy so that might help a nudge if at all