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Conn went 5-4 (Nescac) in Murphy's first year. Conn had some talent during Lessig's last few years that rolled over to Murphy but how much can you do in your first year with two weeks of practice? That team should have had Genco on it. Genco transferred from Conn after his sophomore year and ended up at Amherst. He was a 3x All Nescac player. Im not saying they win a Nescac championship but I think they had a decent side.

I like Conn's style and Devlin is just on a different level than almost the whole conference. They have been improving each year and hosting a game this year is a necessity.

Shooter McGavin

School   Conf   Overall
Amherst   8-0-0   13-0-0
Middlebury   5-2-1   10-2-1
Tufts   4-2-2   8-3-2
Connecticut College   4-3-1   9-3-1
Williams   4-3-1   7-4-2
Wesleyan   3-4-1   7-5-1
Trinity   3-5-1   6-5-3
Bowdoin   2-3-3   6-3-3
Bates   2-4-2   7-4-2
Hamilton   2-7-0   5-9-0
Colby   1-5-2   3-7-3

Is it me or is this conference extremely overrated??

Bowdoin and Williams essentially have as many blemishes as they do wins yet we are discussing their chances to make NCAA's. Makes no sense. The top 4 are solid. The rest of the league is mediocre at best. I would take the Centennial and NJAC over the NESAC this year any day of the week. Now the top 4 of the NESAC vs the top 4 of the other conferences is a different story because that would be something to see. But a conference as a whole...the NESAC is a joke. Top 4 make the bottom 7 look good.

Mr.Right

Saturday 10-24-2015 Predictions:  Home Team listed 1st

Williams v Tufts--------------Williams has scored 11 goals in the past 2 games v Babson and Hamilton. They also are 3-0-0 in their last 3 with big conference wins at Wesleyan and v Hamilton. The Wesleyan 2OT win was lucky as both teams had opportunities to win that game. At 7-4-2 Williams almost has an identical record as 8-3-2 Tufts. If Williams beats Tufts this weekend they will most certainly be ranked at #8 or #9. Both of these teams have outstanding SOS and Record v Ranked. Both teams MUST win this game. Tufts can afford a DRAW but Williams cannot if they have any Pool C aspirations. This is going to be a tight game and the difference will be who can finish their chances. I think if Williams stays tight on Kayne and marks Majumder well they have a good chance. Tufts central defenders are just not the same and it has really hurt them most of the year. I think Williams get jacked for this game and are playing with some confidence right now....FINAL   2-0 WILLIAMS


Hamilton v Colby--------------Hamilton was eliminated from the Nescac Playoffs after losing 4-0 to Williams yesterday. Since 2011, when Hamilton joined Nescac from the Liberty League they have failed to finish in the Top 8 (Nescac Playoffs) in 4 of 5 years. That is very telling of how tough Nescac is as Hamilton used to have relative success in the Liberty League and even qualified for the NCAA's a couple years. They are very FAR OFF  FROM THAT nowadays. Colby MUST win at Hamilton and against Bates to qualify for Nescac Playoffs. Personally, they do not deserve to qualify and I also do not think they will. Even if they do it would be a quick exit...I say Hamilton snags a victory here...FINAL  1-0 HAMILTON



Bates v Midd------------------One team that has given Midd fits over the years has been Bates. They have upset Midd a couple times the past 10 years but not this year. There is tOo much on the line for Midd as they cannot drop anymore games. Midd should physically impose their style over Bates but Bates has some speed that they could use to burn Midd's backline. Again, I am not very impressed with Midd this year but they have enough to deal with the pesky Bobcats....FINAL 1-0 MIDD


Conn v Bowdoin---------CI have to say I was surprised to see Conn ranked #7 in New England. I figured maybe #9 or #10. That win over ECONN is HUGE but they cannot have anymore slip-ups...This is a MUSt win for Conn and for their Pool C chances. Bowdoin MUST win this game to qualify for the Nescac playoffs...They should be vying for the #6 seed..Bowdoin has been my biggest disappointment this year and the DRAW with Colby was horrific. My only question is will Conn be able to score against Bowdoin? FINAL   0-0


Amherst v Wesleyan----------Wesleyan has lost 3 in a row and basically have finished off their season by doing so. They were unlucky against Williams and Trinity and Midd...They could have easily won all 3 games and then you would be looking at a New England Region ranking of #4 or #5. Well it did not happen and now most certainly Wesleyan will drop out of the rankings which will hurt Midd and possibly Conn College for record v ranked. Wesleyan always gives Amherst fits but not this year. Amherst will have revenge on their minds from last year and they also want to win the Little 3 with a victory. Wesleyan has to be very low in confidence right now as its AQ or bust for them and they are definitely not winning the AQ.....FINAL AMHERST 3-0

Shooter McGavin

Great stuff Mr. Right! I agree with all your score predictions except Williams won't beat Tufts 2-0. I think Tufts wins 3-1 and ends this whole Williams discussion for good.

Mr.Right

Genco was a great player at Conn and a good player at Amherst. He did not make the difference for Amherst that I thought he might. Lessig certainly got a couple decent players but near the end of his tenure he certainly was not recruiting like he should have been.

Bucket

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 22, 2015, 02:42:51 PM
School   Conf   Overall
Amherst   8-0-0   13-0-0
Middlebury   5-2-1   10-2-1
Tufts   4-2-2   8-3-2
Connecticut College   4-3-1   9-3-1
Williams   4-3-1   7-4-2
Wesleyan   3-4-1   7-5-1
Trinity   3-5-1   6-5-3
Bowdoin   2-3-3   6-3-3
Bates   2-4-2   7-4-2
Hamilton   2-7-0   5-9-0
Colby   1-5-2   3-7-3

Is it me or is this conference extremely overrated??

Bowdoin and Williams essentially have as many blemishes as they do wins yet we are discussing their chances to make NCAA's. Makes no sense. The top 4 are solid. The rest of the league is mediocre at best. I would take the Centennial and NJAC over the NESAC this year any day of the week. Now the top 4 of the NESAC vs the top 4 of the other conferences is a different story because that would be something to see. But a conference as a whole...the NESAC is a joke. Top 4 make the bottom 7 look good.

Hard to argue with this sentiment, though I don't think that anyone is seriously talking about Bowdoin as a contender for NCAA play. As I stated earlier, they are in a dogfight to make the NESCAC tournament!

Mid-Atlantic Fan

I agree Bucket with what you said. Shooter has a decent point.

Shooter McGavin

This is the year where the overrated leagues and teams don't make it. The gap is closing and I think people are finally seeing that.

Mr.Right

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 22, 2015, 02:42:51 PM
School   Conf   Overall
Amherst   8-0-0   13-0-0
Middlebury   5-2-1   10-2-1
Tufts   4-2-2   8-3-2
Connecticut College   4-3-1   9-3-1
Williams   4-3-1   7-4-2
Wesleyan   3-4-1   7-5-1
Trinity   3-5-1   6-5-3
Bowdoin   2-3-3   6-3-3
Bates   2-4-2   7-4-2
Hamilton   2-7-0   5-9-0
Colby   1-5-2   3-7-3

Is it me or is this conference extremely overrated??

Bowdoin and Williams essentially have as many blemishes as they do wins yet we are discussing their chances to make NCAA's. Makes no sense. The top 4 are solid. The rest of the league is mediocre at best. I would take the Centennial and NJAC over the NESAC this year any day of the week. Now the top 4 of the NESAC vs the top 4 of the other conferences is a different story because that would be something to see. But a conference as a whole...the NESAC is a joke. Top 4 make the bottom 7 look good.



I hate getting into this Nescac argument but Nescac IS NOT A JOKE OF A LEAGUE....I just made my point about Hamilton coming from the Liberty League and struggling....The bottom 3 Hamilton, Colby and Bates are definitely not up to snuff but they can beat teams....Bowdoin, Williams and Wesleyan would be winning many more games in other leagues...What exactly league do you feel trumps Nescac?

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 22, 2015, 03:33:52 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 22, 2015, 02:42:51 PM
School   Conf   Overall
Amherst   8-0-0   13-0-0
Middlebury   5-2-1   10-2-1
Tufts   4-2-2   8-3-2
Connecticut College   4-3-1   9-3-1
Williams   4-3-1   7-4-2
Wesleyan   3-4-1   7-5-1
Trinity   3-5-1   6-5-3
Bowdoin   2-3-3   6-3-3
Bates   2-4-2   7-4-2
Hamilton   2-7-0   5-9-0
Colby   1-5-2   3-7-3

Is it me or is this conference extremely overrated??

Bowdoin and Williams essentially have as many blemishes as they do wins yet we are discussing their chances to make NCAA's. Makes no sense. The top 4 are solid. The rest of the league is mediocre at best. I would take the Centennial and NJAC over the NESAC this year any day of the week. Now the top 4 of the NESAC vs the top 4 of the other conferences is a different story because that would be something to see. But a conference as a whole...the NESAC is a joke. Top 4 make the bottom 7 look good.



I hate getting into this Nescac argument but Nescac IS NOT A JOKE OF A LEAGUE....I just made my point about Hamilton coming from the Liberty League and struggling....The bottom 3 Hamilton, Colby and Bates are definitely not up to snuff but they can beat teams....Bowdoin, Williams and Wesleyan would be winning many more games in other leagues...What exactly league do you feel trumps Nescac?

The bottom 7 teams.....

Mr.Right

Ok I am done responding to you...You are clueless at best and wasting my time...You make no sense...I asked you what league is better

Shooter McGavin

Centennial trumps NESAC. UAA(not this year) would be the other. Misread your post hard to read and drive at the same time.

Mr.Right

So the Centennial trumps Nescac....HMMMMM the 6th place team Wesleyan in Nescac went to Haverford and won 2-1 THIS YEAR.....Centennial teams have been for years been coming up to New England in the NCAA's and have been dispatched by Nescac's...The one league that might have Nescac's # is the NJAC which Last Guy went into last year doing year by year results....

Off Pitch

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 22, 2015, 02:42:51 PM
School   Conf   Overall
Amherst   8-0-0   13-0-0
Middlebury   5-2-1   10-2-1
Tufts   4-2-2   8-3-2
Connecticut College   4-3-1   9-3-1
Williams   4-3-1   7-4-2
Wesleyan   3-4-1   7-5-1
Trinity   3-5-1   6-5-3
Bowdoin   2-3-3   6-3-3
Bates   2-4-2   7-4-2
Hamilton   2-7-0   5-9-0
Colby   1-5-2   3-7-3

Is it me or is this conference extremely overrated??

Bowdoin and Williams essentially have as many blemishes as they do wins yet we are discussing their chances to make NCAA's. Makes no sense. The top 4 are solid. The rest of the league is mediocre at best. I would take the Centennial and NJAC over the NESAC this year any day of the week. Now the top 4 of the NESAC vs the top 4 of the other conferences is a different story because that would be something to see. But a conference as a whole...the NESAC is a joke. Top 4 make the bottom 7 look good.

You would take the Centennial over the NESCAC?  Okay, how about putting a team that is undefeated in the Centennial against one of the mediocre teams with a losing record in the NESCAC.  Better yet, lets let it be a home game for the Centennial power.   No contest I guess. 

Oh wait, that game has already been played.  Mediocre Wesleyan made the long trek to PA and defeated Haverford 2-1. 

blooter442

Quote from: Off Pitch on October 22, 2015, 03:44:26 PM
You would take the Centennial over the NESCAC?  Okay, how about putting a team that is undefeated in the Centennial against one of the mediocre teams with a losing record in the NESCAC.  Better yet, lets let it be a home game for the Centennial power.   No contest I guess. 

Oh wait, that game has already been played.  Mediocre Wesleyan made the long trek to PA and defeated Haverford 2-1.

Ok, ok...to be fair, that same Wesleyan team lost at home against ECSU. Obviously irrelevant in our comparison of the Centennial and the NESCAC, and I agree that the NESCAC is superior, but just saying that it goes both ways.