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blooter442

Really nice through-ball from McColl, through the eye of a needle, but the chance was snuffed out.

blooter442

2-1 final. Bowdoin deserved winners, but Thomas gave them a game, although it was perhaps exacerbated by Bowdoin's lack of prowess in front of goal during the first half. You did get the feeling that Bowdoin was going to score, and that it was only a matter of time, but Thomas held firm for longer than expected.

SoccerMom_5

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 02, 2017, 08:38:31 PM
Stream goes out and Masterson nets 2 goals..Only in Maine...Interestingly, Masterson was the only sub of the match for Bowdoin..Is their bench that thin? I did not see the Frosh #5 Byrd that I liked against Williams and Wesleyan but did notice a guy on crutches..

I was wondering about him, also.  I thought that Bowdoin #5, Byrd, created things up front.  I did not notice the crutches on the side line, but I signed in late. 

Regarding size... I think that Thomas is bigger.  That 13 is a Mack Truck.  And 5, also. ... and 11, with the cleats up slides ... if he came sliding at me cleats up, I would think twice about loose balls. (Which may be the intention there. ) And that 15 attacking is short, but super-solid, and really reckless.   I think Thomas has the size advantage.  They CERTAINLY have a weight advantage...   And they are so reckless, if not downright egregious with some of those plays.  And the ref seems to be missing them.  If I were the Bowdoin coach, I would be torn between wanting my kids to play like they mean it, and wanting them not to get hurt in a non-conference game.     


On another note, I also have lost the stream, but I was wondering...  but... it is so hard to see on a video with the angle and limited view and all, but:  Did you think that there were a few plays where the dude might have started in an offside position?  I thought that there were a couple where he looked a good meter off, but there was at least one, where I noticed the whole Bowdoin back line look over at the line judge like they were expecting the call, but there wasn't one.

blooter442

Quote from: SoccerMom_5 on October 02, 2017, 09:00:55 PM
Regarding size... I think that Thomas is bigger.  That 13 is a Mack Truck.  And 5, also. ... and 11, with the cleats up slides ... if he came sliding at me cleats up, I would think twice about loose balls. (Which may be the intention there. ) And that 15 attacking is short, but super-solid, and really reckless.   I think Thomas has the size advantage.  They CERTAINLY have a weight advantage...   And they are so reckless, if not downright egregious with some of those plays.  And the ref seems to be missing them.  If I were the Bowdoin coach, I would be torn between wanting my kids to play like they mean it, and wanting them not to get hurt in a non-conference game.   

Looking at both rosters, Bowdoin has 12 guys over 6' while Thomas has 10 (and no outfield player over 6'3", while Bowdoin has 3). That said I don't disagree that Thomas perhaps has better team size than I thought -- I watched them closely a couple of years ago but new players have come in.

SoccerMom_5

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Quote from: blooter442 on October 02, 2017, 08:50:47 PM
New stream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNRlNGvR6G4

Thanks.  I didn't see this on time, but I am watching the rest of the match now, just to see what happened, and to watch for what you were saying about the defense.  I was a defender, so I am sensitive to these things.  LOL.  Plus, Bowdoin's defense usually impresses me.  What I am seeing in this game, as in many others I watch, is that the holding mids often play high-risk negative balls.  I have seen a couple just in these few minutes of tape you linked... they  touch a ball back to their CBs, even as they pull their man in to that line; they fail to move to open up a new passing lane, even though there was no second ball; and they leave the backs with no outlet, requiring them to make a bad choice to carry into traffic, or to play a terribly risky ball into the keeper, or to try to split opponents, or to just "throw it away" on a hasty clear.  There were a couple of those negative balls just in those last minutes of tape you linked for us, which is frustrating when you can see that there was a square pass available and/or an option to switch the field.   

Even on those Thomas long balls, the Bowdoin backs were running it down, and the midfield failed to move to offer an outlet.   (You may be able to tell I was a defender, because these things still trigger me a little bit.  lol. ) 

IN addition to being able to finish, Bowdoin definitely has to work on their organization if they want to get anywhere.  ALso the communication side of it...are they talking to each other on the field? Because why don't the mids seem to realize when there are those square passes available?  And are the backs not calling for someone to show?

ON another note, which game will be the best to watch tomorrow?  I was thinking of maybe watching Colby?

SoccerMom_5

Quote from: blooter442 on October 02, 2017, 09:09:27 PM
Quote from: SoccerMom_5 on October 02, 2017, 09:00:55 PM
Regarding size... I think that Thomas is bigger.  That 13 is a Mack Truck.  And 5, also. ... and 11, with the cleats up slides ... if he came sliding at me cleats up, I would think twice about loose balls. (Which may be the intention there. ) And that 15 attacking is short, but super-solid, and really reckless.   I think Thomas has the size advantage.  They CERTAINLY have a weight advantage...   And they are so reckless, if not downright egregious with some of those plays.  And the ref seems to be missing them.  If I were the Bowdoin coach, I would be torn between wanting my kids to play like they mean it, and wanting them not to get hurt in a non-conference game.   

Looking at both rosters, Bowdoin has 12 guys over 6' while Thomas has 10 (and no outfield player over 6'3", while Bowdoin has 3). That said I don't disagree that Thomas perhaps has better team size than I thought -- I watched them closely a couple of years ago but new players have come in.

Well, is Bowdoin playing all of their big guys?  If they have all of those big guys, it does not seem like they are playing them tonight.  I thought Bowdoin looked mostly "out-sized" on the field.  (and certainly outweighed...)

ECSUalum

ECSU down 2-0 vs Conn College in another painful match to watch!  If DeVito doesn't get his team to possess the ball better than 10% it will be a dreadful season for Eastern!  BTW Conn College could do a better job with their stream, ie no sound, LD, and the camera pointed into the sun making the playing field impossible to see at midfield, ???

Mr.Right

Agreed about the stream ECSU

SoccerMom_5

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 03, 2017, 05:56:18 PM
Agreed about the stream ECSU

I watched Colby play Husson.  5(!)-1, Final.   
I really like Colby. Granted, I have not seen them play under pressure, but.. in the games I have seen, they really move the ball well, play on the ground, and combine to score.  Their off-ball movement is good,  and they seem to consistently anticipate the second ball. 
The games I have seen were very slow deliberate games, so I have no idea what would happen they were required to play at speed.  BUt -- looking at the Tufts & WIlliams results, I am going to guess that may have an effect.  DId anyone watch those games? 
I am looking forward to watching them play either Amherst or Bowdoin, and I guess I will see, then.

1970s NESCAC Player

Quote from: SoccerMom_5 on October 03, 2017, 06:23:13 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 03, 2017, 05:56:18 PM
Agreed about the stream ECSU

I watched Colby play Husson.  5(!)-1, Final.   
I really like Colby. Granted, I have not seen them play under pressure, but.. in the games I have seen, they really move the ball well, play on the ground, and combine to score.  Their off-ball movement is good,  and they seem to consistently anticipate the second ball. 
The games I have seen were very slow deliberate games, so I have no idea what would happen they were required to play at speed.  BUt -- looking at the Tufts & WIlliams results, I am going to guess that may have an effect.  DId anyone watch those games? 
I am looking forward to watching them play either Amherst or Bowdoin, and I guess I will see, then.

I was at the Colby-Tufts game (Colby's first game of season in Medford), which Tufts won 1-0 on a questionable PK in OT.  The game was very even with a few chances on each side, until the last few minutes of regulation, when Tufts took control.  Colby played without Aoyama and Gibson (starting GK) in that game, and had several other regulars recovering from preseason injuries.  A tie would have been a fair result, but full credit to Tufts for getting the win.

Colby's game at Wesleyan this Saturday will tell us a lot about how far they might be able to go.  Then they have Amherst at home, away to Bowdoin, away to Hamilton, and then home to Bates (on a Wednesday) to finish the season.  As you probably know SoccerMom, no matter how good or bad the season, you throw out the records for the CBB games . . .

NESCAC11

Quote from: SoccerMom_5 on October 03, 2017, 06:23:13 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 03, 2017, 05:56:18 PM
Agreed about the stream ECSU

I watched Colby play Husson.  5(!)-1, Final.   
I really like Colby. Granted, I have not seen them play under pressure, but.. in the games I have seen, they really move the ball well, play on the ground, and combine to score.  Their off-ball movement is good,  and they seem to consistently anticipate the second ball. 
The games I have seen were very slow deliberate games, so I have no idea what would happen they were required to play at speed.  BUt -- looking at the Tufts & WIlliams results, I am going to guess that may have an effect.  DId anyone watch those games? 
I am looking forward to watching them play either Amherst or Bowdoin, and I guess I will see, then.

I watched Colby at home against Williams. Colby made a few runs down the right wing and threatened early but after about 15 minutes Williams took control and possessed the ball pretty well. Colby never really threatened. Williams, having no offense to speak of, hardly threatened as well. One quick goal in the first half was all the offense we saw.

SoccerMom_5

Quote from: NESCAC11 on October 03, 2017, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: SoccerMom_5 on October 03, 2017, 06:23:13 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 03, 2017, 05:56:18 PM
Agreed about the stream ECSU

I watched Colby play Husson.  5(!)-1, Final.   
I really like Colby. Granted, I have not seen them play under pressure, but.. in the games I have seen, they really move the ball well, play on the ground, and combine to score.  Their off-ball movement is good,  and they seem to consistently anticipate the second ball. 
The games I have seen were very slow deliberate games, so I have no idea what would happen they were required to play at speed.  BUt -- looking at the Tufts & WIlliams results, I am going to guess that may have an effect.  DId anyone watch those games? 
I am looking forward to watching them play either Amherst or Bowdoin, and I guess I will see, then.

I watched Colby at home against Williams. Colby made a few runs down the right wing and threatened early but after about 15 minutes Williams took control and possessed the ball pretty well. Colby never really threatened. Williams, having no offense to speak of, hardly threatened as well. One quick goal in the first half was all the offense we saw.

Was it a fast paced or physical game?  It seems like that may not be Colby's preferred style, based on what they look like when they are controlling the pace.  Did that have an effect on the game? Or... what was their issue in the Williams game?

Mr.Right

And Bates laying an egg v Maine Maritime...0-0 30 minutes left

Mr.Right

Opoku cannot buy a goal this year..Misses a PK to the goalie's left...Still 0-0