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SoccerMom_5

Quote from: Bucket on November 12, 2017, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: SoccerMom_5 on November 12, 2017, 01:27:30 AM
Quote from: PaulNewman on November 12, 2017, 01:13:43 AM
The above is false. You do not have to be on the field at the end of the game.

Well, then that is a weird NESCAC quirk, because... normally you have to have been on the pitch at the final whistle to be eligible to kick in the PK shootout.  Unless you stepped off for injury or equipment issues and were not replaced with a sub.  (Or if your keeper is on the field but then subsequently injured.  Then, you can bring on a new keeper regardless.)   

Otherwise.. only whomever was in at the end of the game can shoot.   

If the NESCAC doesnt follow that rule, then I stand corrected. 
But that is a strange rule not to follow.

  I am pretty sure the NCAA would be following it.   Because that is just a pretty much basic rule.

Nope. Not a NESCAC quirk. NCAA allows players who were not on pitch to participate in penalty shootout.

Lol.  They told me. 
Thanks.  I think that is so crazy.  Never would I have guessed that and can't even speculate as to why the NCAA would have modified that rule.   But...  I have some friends who coach under both college and FIFA/IFAB rules, so I will get a rules comparison from them at some point before next NCAA season.  Then, I will know things like this.

Thanks to all who helped enlighten me on that divergence in the rules.  Never would I have supposed it on my own. 

PaulNewman

Sorry. Can't resist.  I don't think the Holland GK was injured, and in fact the GK that came in for the shootout ONLY was considered a "PK specialist."

And I just totally disagree with you about your "fresher" argument and sportsmanship.  I'm willing to bet the Bowdoin coach didn't do it out of sportsmanship.  He no doubt thought his best shooters were already on the field. Fresher?  Many would consider a kid coming on completely cold to take a huge do or die PK to be far more risky than someone who had played.

blooter442

In this midst of all of this, I think the RUN goalkeeper deserves some credit. He did save 3 PKs, after all, compared to van Siclen's two. van Siclen was an impressive goalkeeper and his record with penalties -- including last night's shootout -- was very good, but it was the undersized goalkeeper who wasn't given much chance ended up being the hero for his team.

Mr.Right

Do we have a replay of these kicks? I cannot find anywhere...I want to see if it was the GK or the kickers or some of both

Mr.Right


blooter442

Quote from: Mr.Right on November 12, 2017, 12:23:08 PM
Game Day:

St.Joe's after yesterday's win


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c16ymxSpDPQ

I like Dubois' interviews -- he is casual and approachable but not brash (unlike other unnamed coaches I've ranted about). The Tufts SID always sounds like he has a cold, but he asks good questions.

Mullen's answer was just what I suspected -- that he was [somewhat] glad the streak is finally over.

Mr.Right

Quote from: blooter442 on November 12, 2017, 12:26:40 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 12, 2017, 12:23:08 PM
Game Day:

St.Joe's after yesterday's win


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c16ymxSpDPQ

I like Dubois' interviews -- he is casual and approachable but not brash (unlike other unnamed coaches I've ranted about). The Tufts SID always sounds like he has a cold, but he asks good questions.

Mullen's answer was just what I suspected -- that he was [somewhat] glad the streak is finally over.

Agreed....Now watch the Mitchell Presser..That was also very interesting..Seem like good kids

blooter442

Quote from: Mr.Right on November 12, 2017, 12:05:27 PM
Do we have a replay of these kicks? I cannot find anywhere...I want to see if it was the GK or the kickers or some of both

I haven't seen one, but -- according to people who were there -- he made three saves. One of the kicks was especially bad (think I was told the first one), but the other two were solid.

blooter442

Quote from: Mr.Right on November 12, 2017, 12:30:53 PM
Agreed....Now watch the Mitchell Presser..That was also very interesting..Seem like good kids

They do seem like good kids. The goalie, in particular, played out of his mind. And having seen a replay of the goal (while missing it at the game), it was a pretty nice shot, even if a misplay by the SJC back line.

Mr.Right

Quote from: SoccerMom_5 on November 12, 2017, 01:19:08 AM
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 11, 2017, 10:12:52 PM
Typical Bowdoin match...They will do it to anyone...3 SOG for Bowdoin and RUN each in 110 minutes

My goodness...
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Three shots on goal is a perfectly respectable number of shots on goal!!! 

D1 teams only average four shots on goal per game!   
Notre Dame takes a little over five on average.  Same for Villanova.  And that is NOTRE DAME and VILLANOVA! 

Three SOG is perfectly respectable.   

In fact.... since every shot on goal is the result of an error ( or a string of errors.)  And since every goal definitely is the result of a string of errors.... 
That means:
the more shots on goal, the worse the play actually is. ... because that means somebody is making a lot of errors


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Not to beat a dead horse here BUT one final comment..3 SOG is NOT acceptable..I do not know Notre Dame stats off the top of my head but they are coached by Bobby Clarke who has been coaching for years and since the days he was at Dartmouth has played a defensive oriented system. His wings are spread all over this country for good and bad. Wheeler plays his system at Wesleyan as he played for him at Dartmouth. Shapiro assisted the guy at Georgetown who played for Clarke and Shapiro's Tufts sides look a TON like Dartmouth used to look..On and On I could go but I will not..It is Gameday and we move forward...

Mr.Right

Tufts line-up no changes from the Midd game..

Mr.Right

4th Official reffed Brandeis game last night

Mr.Right

St.Joe's staying very compact defensively and frustrating Tufts in the Final 3rd. Tufts final pass lacking in the first 15 minutes. St.Joe's needs to play a bit quicker and more accurately to have a chance at breaking Tufts down. I do like this #22 as he is playing hard

Mr.Right

1st chance of the game comes about 25 minutes in with Lane a nice move to his left makes his man miss but his left foot was not as good as he hits it right at the 6'7 Mullins

Mr.Right

Tufts getting a bit of their own medicine here with St.Joe's defensively. The question is can they do this without any mistakes for 110 minutes because I am not sure how many chances St.joe's will get in this match