NESCAC

[paclassic89]

The funniest but worst was the old Bates announcers who were students that did not take it seriously at all and would just chat it up about whatever, who they knew on the teams, what the weather was like, etc.

I'm a big fan of student announcers!  Haverford has a pretty funny duo.  I'm sure there are more out there around the country   

[Hopkins92]

I prefer those announcers to the more professional NESN ones who just don't really know much about soccer and don't have as much background on the teams usually.

This. It's just really jarring at times.

Ball gets spanked off the post.

[NESCAC Profesh Announcer] OHH!! Right off the crossbar!![/announcer]

Like... Dude. C'mon man.

[nescac1]

I think Amherst and Bowdoin are in, Midd and Wesleyan on the bubble with a loss and in with a win, and Williams, Hamilton and Tufts are all probably win and in, lose and out, with Tufts maybe needing two wins depending on how things shake out.  If Williams, Hamilton and Wesleyan all win in round one could Nescac get six teams?   Those three, plus Amherst, Bowdoin, Midd - seems plausible.  Midd though is likely the odd man out in that scenario ending with losses v Williams and Wesleyan, who would be the teams it would be up against on the bubble.  I certainly don't think Midd, with only one ranked win so far, can be considered likely to make it without a win Saturday.  Midd-Wes and Tufts-Williams could well end up as effectively elimination games for the tourney.  So really heading into Saturday I think only Amherst and Bowdoin can feel entirely safe, with Nescac getting 2-4 more bids potentially.  If Conn wins the title or Tufts wins twice (both very plausible of course) that really shakes up the outlook. 

[SlideTackle]

I think Amherst and Bowdoin are in, Midd and Wesleyan on the bubble with a loss and in with a win, and Williams, Hamilton and Tufts are all probably win and in, lose and out, with Tufts maybe needing two wins depending on how things shake out.  If Williams, Hamilton and Wesleyan all win in round one could Nescac get six teams?   Those three, plus Amherst, Bowdoin, Midd - seems plausible.  Midd though is likely the odd man out in that scenario ending with losses v Williams and Wesleyan, who would be the teams it would be up against on the bubble.  I certainly don't think Midd, with only one ranked win so far, can be considered likely to make it without a win Saturday.  Midd-Wes and Tufts-Williams could well end up as effectively elimination games for the tourney.  So really heading into Saturday I think only Amherst and Bowdoin can feel entirely safe, with Nescac getting 2-4 more bids potentially.  If Conn wins the title or Tufts wins twice (both very plausible of course) that really shakes up the outlook.

Are the seedings set as being discussed even after an Amhurst win?  For instance, is it possible that once Amherst, Midd and Williams have the same point total the seeding may change with Amherst jumping in to 2nd or 3d?

[camosfan]

I think Amherst and Bowdoin are in, Midd and Wesleyan on the bubble with a loss and in with a win, and Williams, Hamilton and Tufts are all probably win and in, lose and out, with Tufts maybe needing two wins depending on how things shake out.  If Williams, Hamilton and Wesleyan all win in round one could Nescac get six teams?   Those three, plus Amherst, Bowdoin, Midd - seems plausible.  Midd though is likely the odd man out in that scenario ending with losses v Williams and Wesleyan, who would be the teams it would be up against on the bubble.  I certainly don't think Midd, with only one ranked win so far, can be considered likely to make it without a win Saturday.  Midd-Wes and Tufts-Williams could well end up as effectively elimination games for the tourney.  So really heading into Saturday I think only Amherst and Bowdoin can feel entirely safe, with Nescac getting 2-4 more bids potentially.  If Conn wins the title or Tufts wins twice (both very plausible of course) that really shakes up the outlook.

Are the seedings set as being discussed even after an Amhurst win?  For instance, is it possible that once Amherst, Midd and Williams have the same point total the seeding may change with Amherst jumping in to 2nd or 3d?

If Amherst wins today and move to 17 points it is fourth, Bow, Will, Mid, Amh.

[SlideTackle]

I think Amherst and Bowdoin are in, Midd and Wesleyan on the bubble with a loss and in with a win, and Williams, Hamilton and Tufts are all probably win and in, lose and out, with Tufts maybe needing two wins depending on how things shake out.  If Williams, Hamilton and Wesleyan all win in round one could Nescac get six teams?   Those three, plus Amherst, Bowdoin, Midd - seems plausible.  Midd though is likely the odd man out in that scenario ending with losses v Williams and Wesleyan, who would be the teams it would be up against on the bubble.  I certainly don't think Midd, with only one ranked win so far, can be considered likely to make it without a win Saturday.  Midd-Wes and Tufts-Williams could well end up as effectively elimination games for the tourney.  So really heading into Saturday I think only Amherst and Bowdoin can feel entirely safe, with Nescac getting 2-4 more bids potentially.  If Conn wins the title or Tufts wins twice (both very plausible of course) that really shakes up the outlook.

Are the seedings set as being discussed even after an Amhurst win?  For instance, is it possible that once Amherst, Midd and Williams have the same point total the seeding may change with Amherst jumping in to 2nd or 3d?

If Amherst wins today and move to 17 points it is fourth, Bow, Will, Mid, Amh.

Thank you.

[PaulNewman]

This will likely change over the next two weeks as teams move into and fall out of the regional rankings, but here are the current RvRs for the 8 NESCACs, keeping in mind that Tufts and Conn were not ranked last week so games against them not included.  I suspect Tufts will move in but don't know if that is to replace J&W who will be light on ranked wins (and needs WPI to stay ranked for one ranked win).  Conn also could win two games and move in but then another team would have to drop out since there are only seven slots.  I definitely could have made an error or two below also.

Bowdoin -- 2-1-2

Williams -- 2-0-5

Midd -- 1-2-3

Amherst -- 4-0-3

Hamilton -- 1-3-2

Wesleyan -- 0-4-2

Tufts -- 2-2-3

Conn -- 2-4-2

Hamilton and Wesleyan are the most desperate for Tufts and/or Conn to get ranked.  Bowdoin and Midd also would pick up an additional win if Tufts and Conn were ranked.

[PaulNewman]

I will say this for Serpone.  He is a master at scheduling and the whole bid resume deal and racking up ranked games and wins.

[nescac1]

Nicely done, PaulNewman.  What an absolute cluster for the committee to figure out - a product, largely, of no OTs leading to SO many ties.  Wesleyan very clearly needs a win in NESCAC round 1 to make the tourney, hard to see them getting in with (potentially) zero wins vs. ranked teams ... how will the committee view the Ephs' crazy FIVE ties vs. ranked opponents?  I have no idea ....

[paclassic89]

Region 1 Week 2 Rankings

1. Amherst
2. Bowdoin
3. Middlebury
4. Hamilton
5. Tufts
6. Conn College
7. Williams

[PaulNewman]

Region 1 Week 2 Rankings

1. Amherst
2. Bowdoin
3. Middlebury
4. Hamilton
5. Tufts
6. Conn College
7. Williams

And there ya go.  Seven out of seven NESCACs and even Wesleyan should be happy because now the Cardinals for next week will have two ranked wins to add to their resume.  Of course, will they hold for another week, or will Wesleyan getting back in bump out of the very teams they need to stay in!  Still seems crazy to me so I can't imagine how confusing this all is for new folks.

[PaulNewman]

Couldn't figure out why Williams had only 1 ranked win, and then realized yesterday's results of course weren't included in this week's ranking.  So Conn will pick up another loss, Williams will gain a win, Wesleyan will get the Conn win to get up to two ranked wins, and Bowdoin and Tufts will each pick up a draw.

[emeyerow]

Would Hamilton also pick up 2 wins (against Tufts and Conn College)? If so, I would think Hamilton's RvR would be 3-1-2 and not 1-2-2.

[PaulNewman]

Would Hamilton also pick up 2 wins (against Tufts and Conn College)? If so, I would think Hamilton's RvR would be 3-1-2 and not 1-2-2.

Yes, but not until next week's rankings.

[EnmoreCat]

I think in part at least, you can look at the ladder placing inside the conference as a decent guide to the rankings.  Actually winning conference games should be a good sign, but the nature of this year's NESCAC being so even, plus the lack of OT, has clearly complicated the process.  Irrespective, I would think that 4th of 5th in it is more likely to be equivalent to a higher spot in most other conferences.