NESCAC

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smoova

Excellent - thank you very much!

d4_Pace

Most schools don't have a hard cap on the number of players they can support. Each recruit is given an evaluation based on their academics and ranked as either an A, B, C candidate. My understanding is A is someone who would be considered a good bet to get into the school on their own without athletic support and teams can take an unlimited number of these players. B are strong candidates for the school and will have no issues with athletic support. NESCAC soccer programs get somewhere in the 5-6 of these per year but there really isn't a firm cap and it depends on bit on the performance of other players in the class and some other variables. C's are students who would not get in without athletics and are determined on an athletic department wide basis. Have to get approval from the AD and some years teams won't get any and others that may get 1.

Hillcountryview

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Quote from: Another Mom on December 08, 2022, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: Newenglander on December 08, 2022, 11:15:43 AM
Recruiting Question - I assume most NESCAC schools are done with the bulk of their 2023 recruiting correct?  Most schools ask they commit Early Decision?

I think you can safely say that *all* the NESCACs want a player to ED in exchange for coach support.  Most offers are made in July/August (after prereads) or at least they were 2 years ago when my son went through the process.

If offers are usually made in July/August, when and what should a recruit have ready for prereads? Specifically, do they need to have the college's required essays ready submit for a preread?

Another Mom

No, no essays!! The coach will tell you well in advance. But you will need an unofficial transcript,  SAT/ACT score(s), some schools want a one page resume (the coach will give you a template).

Coaches will want to see the transcript  and board scores themselves before the preread so they can know the player is in range for acceptance. In other words, they aren't going to offer a preread to a kid who has no chance of passing, that would be a waste of a preread spot, and coaches do not have unlimited prereads.

1970s NESCAC Player

Quote from: Another Mom on December 29, 2022, 06:46:51 AM
No, no essays!! The coach will tell you well in advance. But you will need an unofficial transcript,  SAT/ACT score(s), some schools want a one page resume (the coach will give you a template).

Coaches will want to see the transcript  and board scores themselves before the preread so they can know the player is in range for acceptance. In other words, they aren't going to offer a preread to a kid who has no chance of passing, that would be a waste of a preread spot, and coaches do not have unlimited prereads.

Use and number of pre-reads may vary widely from school to school in NESCAC, although I agree that no essays would be required for a pre-read.  In addition to items listed above by Another Mom, it may be necessary to provide the academic profile for the prospect's HS, so that the college can understand the level/difficulty of courses appearing on the transcript.

Another Mom

Yes, that's right, I forgot the school profile.

The essays are only done for the school you apply to (if coach support, then ED).

Hillcountryview

Super helpful!! Thank you.

Viking

ED1 notification dates have come and gone and a new year is here, so maybe it's time to share the first -- and thus half-baked, incomplete, and semi-reliable -- version of a 2023 NESCAC recruits list. It's assembled from the expected public sources, which means you should trust it as much as you'd trust anything posted at this time in the cycle on social media. I can't stress "incomplete" enough, and I wouldn't put much faith in listed positions. Info about some programs and certain types of recruits (especially international and transfer students) is harder to come by than others, and thus it's no surprise that certain programs are underrepresented at this early stage, as usual. Please add/correct!

Amherst
Lucas Liu F Davis Legacy SC/Davis HS - CA

Bates
Beckham Alderucci M Connecticut FC/Newington HS - CT
Isaiah Brown FC Westchester - NY
Andrew Goddard D Connecticut FC/Choate Rosemary Hall - CT
Luc Parr Beachside SC/Wooster S - CT
Oliver Schiff Stein M Manhattan SC/Laguardia HS - NY

Bowdoin
Jack Banks M Seacoast United/Brunswick HS - ME
Johnny Delionado F Weston FC/Belen Jesuit HS - FL
William Fowler M Cedar Stars/Columbia Secondary S - NY
Luke Peltz D South Kent S - NY/CT

Colby
Joseph Beshel M New England Surf/Belmont Hill S - MA
Lleyton Bristow F Shattuck-St. Mary's S - MN
Gus Confalone G SYC/St. John's College HS - DC
Myles Culley M Seacoast United/Waynflete S - ME
Drew Davis M Lower Merion SC/Lower Merion HS - PA
Nick Donnelly D RNY FC - NY
Andrew Kirwan D Penn Fusion SA/Haverford S - PA
Luke Pentikis M South Kent S - NJ/CT
Jacob Sams D Tampa Bay United SC/Berkeley Preparatory S - FL

Conn
Charlie Emery D Bethesda SC/Gonzaga College HS - DC
Max Haberman M Albion SC/Francis Parker S - CA
Nicholas Kempe G Pennington S - NJ
Gavin Mpiana F/M Penn Fusion SA/Hill S - PA
Anish Reid D AC Connecticut/Hotchkiss S - CT
Liam Rorke M Steel United/Tabor A - NH
Casey Shea G TSF/Northern Valley Regional HS - NJ

Hamilton
Patrick Ferrare M Parsippany SC/Montville HS - NJ
Adam Molusis D Connecticut FC/Glastonbury HS - CT
Peter Montesano Scheibe G FC Stars/Lawrence A - MA
Albert Van Ness D Westchester Flames/Bronxville HS - NY

Middlebury
Owen Davis D Albion SC/La Jolla HS - CA
Colin Dugan F FSA FC/Avon Old Farms S - CT
Jay Hoke RNY FC/Manlius Pebble Hill HS - NY
Hugo Horwitz D TSF/Academy Glen Rock HS - NJ
Ari Klayman D PDA/Staten Island Technical HS - NY
Harper Nicholl F/M Blau Weiss Gottschee/UN International S - NY
Will Sawin M South Kent S - CT (a 2022.5 "Feb"?)

Trinity
Sam Singer American S in London - UK

Tufts
Bijan Akhtarzandi-Das M Arlington SA/Washington International S - DC
Ben Brown M Boston Bolts/Concord-Carlisle HS - MA
Demis Calkap M PDA/Northern Valley Regional HS - NJ
Xavier Canfin M FC Westchester - NY
Ethan Jett M Rise SC/Kinkaid S - TX
Zackary Salfi F Real Colorado/East HS - CO
Zach Ubamadu G Chattanooga Red Wolves/Baylor HS - TN

Wesleyan
Zach Feldman D STA/Livingston HS - NJ
Joshwin Jennings M TSF/Delbarton S - NJ
Yousuf Saeed M Rise SC/Episcopal HS - TX
Colin Tsay D STA/Delbarton S - NJ

Williams
Kellan Grace M Beachside SC/Weston HS - CT
Griffin Labonski D Beachside SC/Staples HS - CT
Leon Ma M PDA/Pingry S - NJ
Spencer Mix F FSA FC/Loomis Chafee S - CT
Atticus Ross D Seacoast United SC/Phillips Exeter A - NH
Jeff Stauffer F/M Seacoast United SC - MA

jfreddys

Thank you, Viking.   

Looking at the list, should I be surprised/not surprised to see only to see 3 CA players (and 2 from the same club/MLS team) represented?

I realize the obvious with distance, potential costs, etc. but with so many high academic DIII programs in the NESCAC (and with the reputation as the top conference in DIII), is there much recruiting that goes on out West?   Or does there even need to be?





Kuiper

Quote from: jfreddys on January 02, 2023, 04:31:08 PM
Thank you, Viking.   

Looking at the list, should I be surprised/not surprised to see only to see 3 CA players (and 2 from the same club/MLS team) represented?

I realize the obvious with distance, potential costs, etc. but with so many high academic DIII programs in the NESCAC (and with the reputation as the top conference in DIII), is there much recruiting that goes on out West?   Or does there even need to be?

Viking (and others) have better perspective on the NESCAC picture more specifically, but I can assure you that NESCAC schools and others in the same academic caliber are definitely recruiting players in California.  Every NESCAC school except Trinity and Connecticut College had at least 1 California player on the roster this past season and Conn College's Reuben Burk has been at both Surf Cup in San Diego in July and the MLS Next showcase in Indio in December and Conn College had two players from Washington on this year's roster and has one player incoming from CA for next year according to Viking's list.

I think there's always a bit of a hurdle to get a CA player to go to school across the country, but my guess is that we're still seeing some of the tail-end effects of the pandemic in terms of player opportunities and preferences about how far away they go for school. California games were shut down longer than many other parts of the country and east coast HCs were limited (whether by budget or by pandemic concerns) in their ability to get out to the west coast to recruit face-to-face.  That affected some of these kids sophomore and possibly part of junior year.  Even last summer, when ID camps were back in full swing, pandemic concerns were still a factor with some east coast schools not holding ID camps and others limiting camps to one day and not providing accommodations for overnight stays.  That may have led some players to prefer looking closer to home for schools.

This has all eased up over the last year.  One data point is that the Occidental ID camp, which is the biggest ID camp in Los Angeles for D3-interested players (although it also attracts D1/D2 interested players/coaches).  For the first time since before the pandemic, the camp this weekend will have coaches from the east coast (Swarthmore and Bowdoin).

jfreddys

Quote from: Kuiper on January 02, 2023, 06:04:16 PM
Quote from: jfreddys on January 02, 2023, 04:31:08 PM
Thank you, Viking.   

Looking at the list, should I be surprised/not surprised to see only to see 3 CA players (and 2 from the same club/MLS team) represented?

I realize the obvious with distance, potential costs, etc. but with so many high academic DIII programs in the NESCAC (and with the reputation as the top conference in DIII), is there much recruiting that goes on out West?   Or does there even need to be?

Viking (and others) have better perspective on the NESCAC picture more specifically, but I can assure you that NESCAC schools and others in the same academic caliber are definitely recruiting players in California.  Every NESCAC school except Trinity and Connecticut College had at least 1 California player on the roster this past season and Conn College's Reuben Burk has been at both Surf Cup in San Diego in July and the MLS Next showcase in Indio in December and Conn College had two players from Washington on this year's roster and has one player incoming from CA for next year according to Viking's list.

I think there's always a bit of a hurdle to get a CA player to go to school across the country, but my guess is that we're still seeing some of the tail-end effects of the pandemic in terms of player opportunities and preferences about how far away they go for school. California games were shut down longer than many other parts of the country and east coast HCs were limited (whether by budget or by pandemic concerns) in their ability to get out to the west coast to recruit face-to-face.  That affected some of these kids sophomore and possibly part of junior year.  Even last summer, when ID camps were back in full swing, pandemic concerns were still a factor with some east coast schools not holding ID camps and others limiting camps to one day and not providing accommodations for overnight stays.  That may have led some players to prefer looking closer to home for schools.

This has all eased up over the last year.  One data point is that the Occidental ID camp, which is the biggest ID camp in Los Angeles for D3-interested players (although it also attracts D1/D2 interested players/coaches).  For the first time since before the pandemic, the camp this weekend will have coaches from the east coast (Swarthmore and Bowdoin).

Thank you.   That is some great insight.

SimpleCoach

Does no one want to go to Trinity?  And of all the players from Jersey.... I am shaking my head...

SC

Yankeesoccerdad

Quote from: jfreddys on January 02, 2023, 04:31:08 PM
Thank you, Viking.   

Looking at the list, should I be surprised/not surprised to see only to see 3 CA players (and 2 from the same club/MLS team) represented?

I realize the obvious with distance, potential costs, etc. but with so many high academic DIII programs in the NESCAC (and with the reputation as the top conference in DIII), is there much recruiting that goes on out West?   Or does there even need to be?
There is a fair amount of year to year geographic variety that just reflects the randomness of the recruiting/application process.  The Bowdoin fall '22 team had 4/6 first years from the west coast (and zero from the northeast), while 3/4 of the players identified as incoming Bowdoin players above are from the northeast.  I think all the NESCAC coaches cast a wide net and the schools are sufficiently well known that they get interest from around the country (and outside the country). 

Newenglander

Quote from: Viking on January 01, 2023, 08:54:03 PM
ED1 notification dates have come and gone and a new year is here, so maybe it's time to share the first -- and thus half-baked, incomplete, and semi-reliable -- version of a 2023 NESCAC recruits list. It's assembled from the expected public sources, which means you should trust it as much as you'd trust anything posted at this time in the cycle on social media. I can't stress "incomplete" enough, and I wouldn't put much faith in listed positions. Info about some programs and certain types of recruits (especially international and transfer students) is harder to come by than others, and thus it's no surprise that certain programs are underrepresented at this early stage, as usual. Please add/correct!

Amherst
Lucas Liu F Davis Legacy SC/Davis HS - CA

Bates
Beckham Alderucci M Connecticut FC/Newington HS - CT
Isaiah Brown FC Westchester - NY
Andrew Goddard D Connecticut FC/Choate Rosemary Hall - CT
Luc Parr Beachside SC/Wooster S - CT
Oliver Schiff Stein M Manhattan SC/Laguardia HS - NY

Bowdoin
Jack Banks M Seacoast United/Brunswick HS - ME
Johnny Delionado F Weston FC/Belen Jesuit HS - FL
William Fowler M Cedar Stars/Columbia Secondary S - NY
Luke Peltz D South Kent S - NY/CT

Colby
Joseph Beshel M New England Surf/Belmont Hill S - MA
Lleyton Bristow F Shattuck-St. Mary's S - MN
Gus Confalone G SYC/St. John's College HS - DC
Myles Culley M Seacoast United/Waynflete S - ME
Drew Davis M Lower Merion SC/Lower Merion HS - PA
Nick Donnelly D RNY FC - NY
Andrew Kirwan D Penn Fusion SA/Haverford S - PA
Luke Pentikis M South Kent S - NJ/CT
Jacob Sams D Tampa Bay United SC/Berkeley Preparatory S - FL

Conn
Charlie Emery D Bethesda SC/Gonzaga College HS - DC
Max Haberman M Albion SC/Francis Parker S - CA
Nicholas Kempe G Pennington S - NJ
Gavin Mpiana F/M Penn Fusion SA/Hill S - PA
Anish Reid D AC Connecticut/Hotchkiss S - CT
Liam Rorke M Steel United/Tabor A - NH
Casey Shea G TSF/Northern Valley Regional HS - NJ
Charlie Miles, D NYSC - NY
Noah Sides, M NYSC - NY


Hamilton
Patrick Ferrare M Parsippany SC/Montville HS - NJ
Adam Molusis D Connecticut FC/Glastonbury HS - CT
Peter Montesano Scheibe G FC Stars/Lawrence A - MA
Albert Van Ness D Westchester Flames/Bronxville HS - NY

Middlebury
Owen Davis D Albion SC/La Jolla HS - CA
Colin Dugan F FSA FC/Avon Old Farms S - CT
Jay Hoke RNY FC/Manlius Pebble Hill HS - NY
Hugo Horwitz D TSF/Academy Glen Rock HS - NJ
Ari Klayman D PDA/Staten Island Technical HS - NY
Harper Nicholl F/M Blau Weiss Gottschee/UN International S - NY
Will Sawin M South Kent S - CT (a 2022.5 "Feb"?)

Trinity
Sam Singer American S in London - UK

Tufts
Bijan Akhtarzandi-Das M Arlington SA/Washington International S - DC
Ben Brown M Boston Bolts/Concord-Carlisle HS - MA
Demis Calkap M PDA/Northern Valley Regional HS - NJ
Xavier Canfin M FC Westchester - NY
Ethan Jett M Rise SC/Kinkaid S - TX
Zackary Salfi F Real Colorado/East HS - CO
Zach Ubamadu G Chattanooga Red Wolves/Baylor HS - TN

Wesleyan
Zach Feldman D STA/Livingston HS - NJ
Joshwin Jennings M TSF/Delbarton S - NJ
Yousuf Saeed M Rise SC/Episcopal HS - TX
Colin Tsay D STA/Delbarton S - NJ

Williams
Kellan Grace M Beachside SC/Weston HS - CT
Griffin Labonski D Beachside SC/Staples HS - CT
Leon Ma M PDA/Pingry S - NJ
Spencer Mix F FSA FC/Loomis Chafee S - CT
Atticus Ross D Seacoast United SC/Phillips Exeter A - NH
Jeff Stauffer F/M Seacoast United SC - MA

Added 2 more for Conn

quicksilver

Quote from: Viking on January 01, 2023, 08:54:03 PM
ED1 notification dates have come and gone and a new year is here, so maybe it's time to share the first -- and thus half-baked, incomplete, and semi-reliable -- version of a 2023 NESCAC recruits list. It's assembled from the expected public sources, which means you should trust it as much as you'd trust anything posted at this time in the cycle on social media. I can't stress "incomplete" enough, and I wouldn't put much faith in listed positions. Info about some programs and certain types of recruits (especially international and transfer students) is harder to come by than others, and thus it's no surprise that certain programs are underrepresented at this early stage, as usual. Please add/correct!

Amherst
Lucas Liu F Davis Legacy SC/Davis HS - CA

Bates
Beckham Alderucci M Connecticut FC/Newington HS - CT
Isaiah Brown FC Westchester - NY
Andrew Goddard D Connecticut FC/Choate Rosemary Hall - CT
Luc Parr Beachside SC/Wooster S - CT
Oliver Schiff Stein M Manhattan SC/Laguardia HS - NY

Bowdoin
Jack Banks M Seacoast United/Brunswick HS - ME
Johnny Delionado F Weston FC/Belen Jesuit HS - FL
William Fowler M Cedar Stars/Columbia Secondary S - NY
Luke Peltz D South Kent S - NY/CT

Colby
Joseph Beshel M New England Surf/Belmont Hill S - MA
Lleyton Bristow F Shattuck-St. Mary's S - MN
Gus Confalone G SYC/St. John's College HS - DC
Myles Culley M Seacoast United/Waynflete S - ME
Drew Davis M Lower Merion SC/Lower Merion HS - PA
Nick Donnelly D RNY FC - NY
Andrew Kirwan D Penn Fusion SA/Haverford S - PA
Luke Pentikis M South Kent S - NJ/CT
Jacob Sams D Tampa Bay United SC/Berkeley Preparatory S - FL

Conn
Charlie Emery D Bethesda SC/Gonzaga College HS - DC
Max Haberman M Albion SC/Francis Parker S - CA
Nicholas Kempe G Pennington S - NJ
Gavin Mpiana F/M Penn Fusion SA/Hill S - PA
Anish Reid D AC Connecticut/Hotchkiss S - CT
Liam Rorke M Steel United/Tabor A - NH
Casey Shea G TSF/Northern Valley Regional HS - NJ

Hamilton
Patrick Ferrare M Parsippany SC/Montville HS - NJ
Adam Molusis D Connecticut FC/Glastonbury HS - CT
Peter Montesano Scheibe G FC Stars/Lawrence A - MA
Albert Van Ness D Westchester Flames/Bronxville HS - NY

Middlebury
Owen Davis D Albion SC/La Jolla HS - CA
Colin Dugan F FSA FC/Avon Old Farms S - CT
Jay Hoke RNY FC/Manlius Pebble Hill HS - NY
Hugo Horwitz D TSF/Academy Glen Rock HS - NJ
Ari Klayman D PDA/Staten Island Technical HS - NY
Harper Nicholl F/M Blau Weiss Gottschee/UN International S - NY
Will Sawin M South Kent S - CT (a 2022.5 "Feb"?)

Trinity
Sam Singer American S in London - UK

Tufts
Bijan Akhtarzandi-Das M Arlington SA/Washington International S - DC
Ben Brown M Boston Bolts/Concord-Carlisle HS - MA
Demis Calkap M PDA/Northern Valley Regional HS - NJ
Xavier Canfin M FC Westchester - NY
Ethan Jett M Rise SC/Kinkaid S - TX
Zackary Salfi F Real Colorado/East HS - CO
Zach Ubamadu G Chattanooga Red Wolves/Baylor HS - TN

Wesleyan
Zach Feldman D STA/Livingston HS - NJ
Joshwin Jennings M TSF/Delbarton S - NJ
Yousuf Saeed M Rise SC/Episcopal HS - TX
Colin Tsay D STA/Delbarton S - NJ

Williams
Kellan Grace M Beachside SC/Weston HS - CT
Griffin Labonski D Beachside SC/Staples HS - CT
Leon Ma M PDA/Pingry S - NJ
Spencer Mix F FSA FC/Loomis Chafee S - CT
Atticus Ross D Seacoast United SC/Phillips Exeter A - NH
Jeff Stauffer F/M Seacoast United SC - MA

Add for Bowdoin: Kamar Burris-Khan, MF, Newton South (MA) HS

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