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PaulNewman

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Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 12, 2024, 02:26:58 PMI'm on record saying the NESCAC is the SEC of D3 soccer. (Probably broken record at this point.)


Yes, I think we've both said this several times.  And for the analogy to hold NESCAC NEEDS the field.  Otherwise, if Enmorecat gets his way with his New England Super League (comprised of all NESCACs, Anna Maria, Nichols, and Lyndon State), we won't be talking anymore about the SEC and world-wide superiority.  We'd instead be talking about NESCAC being the inferior little brother desperately trying to emulate its D1 first cousins, the Ivy League... with virtually no one outside of NESCAC and Ivy walls paying any attention or even knowing which schools are good from year to year.  I know the admissions rates keep going lower and lower...for Ivies and NESCACs (and other academic elites), but I am really curious about what will happen with the entire New England prep school, NESCAC, and Ivy League industrial complex over the next 20 years.  And I'm not talking primarily about athletics but the place of that industrial complex as a societal phenomenon.  The line between niche and irrelevant can get blurry.

EnmoreCat

There's just one thing worse than NESCAC-hate (I'm sure that's too strong a word by the way) and that would be NESCAC-neglect...

PaulNewman

Quote from: EnmoreCat on November 13, 2024, 02:53:18 AMThere's just one thing worse than NESCAC-hate (I'm sure that's too strong a word by the way) and that would be NESCAC-neglect...

We cannot let that happen.  You must abandon and renounce your bid to de-nationalize NESCAC's arc of interest and influence.  Just imagine when the nation at large is no longer reverberating over the Bates-Colby derby. 

And that's why, today, Andrea Savage, Executive Director of NESCAC since 1991, is marching into a US District Federal Court in Burlington, VT to file a suit compelling the D1 behemoth, The Southeastern Conference (SEC), to cease and desist from plagiarizing and claiming ownership of the NESCAC's iconic motto...IT JUST MEANS MORE.

Apropos of everything, Andrea just happens to be a very proud Amherst alum who was a three-sport legend for the Mammothettes.  After a stint overseeing athletics at Yale, Ms. Savage knew there was only one choice...going back home to NESCAC...because, to borrow the SEC's secondary motto...IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW (IYKYK).

Btw, speaking of the SEC, in case you missed it, my University of Kentucky Wildcats knocked off Duke last night in Catlanta.  Took the sting out of the Celtics dropping one to the Hawks.

SierraFD3soccer

Quote from: PaulNewman on November 13, 2024, 08:25:00 AM
Quote from: EnmoreCat on November 13, 2024, 02:53:18 AMThere's just one thing worse than NESCAC-hate (I'm sure that's too strong a word by the way) and that would be NESCAC-neglect...

We cannot let that happen.  You must abandon and renounce your bid to de-nationalize NESCAC's arc of interest and influence.  Just imagine when the nation at large is no longer reverberating over the Bates-Colby derby. 

And that's why, today, Andrea Savage, Executive Director of NESCAC since 1991, is marching into a US District Federal Court in Burlington, VT to file a suit compelling the D1 behemoth, The Southeastern Conference (SEC), to cease and desist from plagiarizing and claiming ownership of the NESCAC's iconic motto...IT JUST MEANS MORE.

Apropos of everything, Andrea just happens to be a very proud Amherst alum who was a three-sport legend for the Mammothettes.  After a stint overseeing athletics at Yale, Ms. Savage knew there was only one choice...going back home to NESCAC...because, to borrow the SEC's secondary motto...IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW (IYKYK).

Btw, speaking of the SEC, in case you missed it, my University of Kentucky Wildcats knocked off Duke last night in Catlanta.  Took the sting out of the Celtics dropping one to the Hawks.

Savage

camosfan

don't underestimate Bates, I see a program that is about to start moving up!

ccfan123456

Classic Amherst bias in all-nescac. No surprise here.

Newenglander

Quote from: ccfan123456 on November 13, 2024, 11:36:52 AMClassic Amherst bias in all-nescac. No surprise here.
They are all good players but feel like the bias is more towards past award winners getting the benefit.....

Camelparent


complexcoach

Quote from: Camelparent on November 13, 2024, 05:15:05 PMAny snubs?

Laurens Ten Cate is an obvious snub - the AMH-spiracy continues..

paclassic89

Agreed.  It's hard to overstate the impact he's had on the Mammoth's performance this season.  Doing all the little things that don't often show up on a stat sheet.  Some may argue that you need to play more than 6 mins a season to be in consideration for an end of year award.  I disagree

ts33

A general question for some of you all who know more about the nescac than I... what makes the nescac so elite, what makes the programs tick, what makes them just that much better than the rest?

I mean you see the numbers on paper of teams qualifying, especially with this years NPI ratings.

For those of you who watch a ton of d3 soccer what makes this conference just that much better than the rest.

This 1000% a posting based upon genuine curiosity with no nescac hate or hate towards any other program/conference. Thanks

stlawus

Quote from: ts33 on November 17, 2024, 03:17:56 PMA general question for some of you all who know more about the nescac than I... what makes the nescac so elite, what makes the programs tick, what makes them just that much better than the rest?

I mean you see the numbers on paper of teams qualifying, especially with this years NPI ratings.

For those of you who watch a ton of d3 soccer what makes this conference just that much better than the rest.

This 1000% a posting based upon genuine curiosity with no nescac hate or hate towards any other program/conference. Thanks

Self sorting mostly.  NESCACs are very high quality academic institutions which in turns attracts a lot of of the top student athletes.  A lot of the top soccer players in the country play for NEPSAC boarding schools which are in the heart of NESCAC country so they can also easily recruit the best players in their backyards. 

Bucket

Quote from: stlawus on November 17, 2024, 03:28:17 PM
Quote from: ts33 on November 17, 2024, 03:17:56 PMA general question for some of you all who know more about the nescac than I... what makes the nescac so elite, what makes the programs tick, what makes them just that much better than the rest?

I mean you see the numbers on paper of teams qualifying, especially with this years NPI ratings.

For those of you who watch a ton of d3 soccer what makes this conference just that much better than the rest.

This 1000% a posting based upon genuine curiosity with no nescac hate or hate towards any other program/conference. Thanks

Self sorting mostly.  NESCACs are very high quality academic institutions which in turns attracts a lot of of the top student athletes.  A lot of the top soccer players in the country play for NEPSAC boarding schools which are in the heart of NESCAC country so they can also easily recruit the best players in their backyards. 

It's not just regional recruiting at the top NE prep schools, though, that makes the NESCAC teams a draw for top talent; it's their national academic profile. Just look at Middlebury: the starting 11 features 4-5 student-athletes from New England; the majority of starters come from such places as San Francisco, Manhattan Beach, London, suburban Chicago, suburban NYC. 

gocamels

Weekend review after being on site in New London for two dominant Conn College wins -- this team is clicking just at the right time.

As a former player, it was hard to watch them struggle in the regular season -- lots of 0-0 ties, a big loss to Wesleyan on the final day of the regular season to finish as the 6 seed for the daunting NESCAC tournament. They look a completely different team since then.

The build up play is sharp, the defense is lock down, the forwards are taking their chances with confidence. They utterly dominated both games at home this weekend(4-1, 3-0) and move on to the sweet 16 absolutely flying high. Shame they won't be hosting at their home field, arguably the best atmosphere and home-field advantage (and the worst actual pitch) amongst the upper echelons of D3 footy.

Juniors Gavin Vanden Berg and Elliot Spatz are tearing it up at striker, both scoring in multiple games in a row, and Matt Scoffone (best player in the country) is scoring goals for FUN and creating massive chances every time he gets the ball out wide.

Max Haberman is extremely impressive in the middle of the park, and young CB's Charlie Miles and Dylan Hoke play like they've been running the NESCAC for years. Goalie Peter Silvester (best GK in the country and robbed of NESCAC 1st team by criminally overrated Ben Diffley) is the backbone of this team and is playing like his career depends on it (because it does).

Brilliant group of kids, great coaching staff that cares deeply about the program, playing the right way, and the brotherhood.

Regardless of how the rest of the tournament goes, extremely proud to be an alum of this program and to see this group of 5th years and seniors win every trophy available to them and enshrine themselves as legends.

After handling Franklin and Marshall, lets head to Mary Washington (another two-name school that will end next weekend with less wins than names).

GO CAMELS

FanofNescac

Was anyone at the Tufts games this weekend?