WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[lmitzel]

There was confusion with media timeouts Saturday at Wheaton. They seemed to be in addition to those allotted to the teams.

That's my understanding of how they're supposed to operate (at least, that's how we did it last year). But based on our conversation with one of the officials apparently it's not? I have no idea anymore.

[RogK]

Congrats to the first CCIW player of the week, Elyce Knudsen!
https://cciw.org/news/2022/11/14/womens-basketball-elyce-knudsen-selected-cciw-student-athlete-of-the-week.aspx
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[itsnotmeitsyou]

I've had something gnawing at me a little bit since the 4th quarter of the NCC-Chicago game the other night. Greg, this question might be best asked of you since you may be most in the know, but I'm not sure if anyone else here would also know enough.

Last year the CCIW started doing media timeouts during all of its games. No issue in and of itself, but we had an interesting conversation with one of the officials towards the end of the game about how those are enforced. Apparently we're supposed to be charging those media timeouts to alternating teams (which is... 100% not how we did it last year and I'm pretty sure is not specified in any rule about those are enforced. This was what I found on a quick Google during the game, and I just interpret this as it's official timeouts that don't get charged either way, which is how we did it last year.)

Official's argument about it made sense... speeds up the game a little bit with fewer timeouts to take, but I don't think it's how you're supposed to do it.

The game officials have been watching too many NBA games - that's how they do it at that level (teams are alternately charged timeouts).

A teams allotment of time outs (:60 or :30's) are based on whether media time outs are utilized in the game - fewer timeouts in games w/ media timeouts.

The decision to utilize media timeouts are made at the conference level and apply uniformly to all games held during the season (whether non-conference or conference games). The duration of the timeout is also uniform - except when in the NCAA tournament when they are slightly longer.

There should have been a directive from the conference office - via the Coordinator of Officials - to ALL schools regarding media time out procedures.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

My understanding is that any timeout called in the timeframe for media timeouts becomes a media timeout and is charged to the team calling it (if they call a :30, it counts as a :30, even though its longer) - but that any media timeouts that come as a result of a dead ball are officials timeouts and not counted towards either team.

Then again, I'm just a writer and not an official scorer, so what do I know?

[Gregory Sager]

North Park 84
Dominican 48

Esther Miller: 30 pts, 5 stls
Chantel Hairston: 20 pts, 11 rebs, 8 stls, 5:2 a:to
Victoria Perry: 12 pts, 5 stls
Lauren McKnight: 5:1 a:to

In yet another game when the Vikings were ice-cold from from the field for much of the way, they found the sure cure: steals leading to easy layups. The Vikings picked the pockets of the Stars no fewer than 27 times tonight -- the Stars had a horrific 37 turnovers in all -- and turned them into 42 points, including 22 on the fast break. Career highs tonight for Esther Miller and Chantel Hairston, the latter of whom came darned close to a triple-double the hard way (points, rebounds, steals).

[RogK]

The league improved to 10-14 last night, thanks to North Park and Wheaton.
In Wheaton's 76-68 win over St Mary's of Indiana, the Thunder had 16 steals and 8 blocks.
The 16 steals were Wheaton's most in 5 years, since 16 against Lake Forest on Nov 17 2017.
Perhaps the CCIW can go 5-0 tonight and get above .500?

[iwu70]

IWU @ #4 UW Whitewater tonight.  That's going to be another very tough one, like the Hope game.  I see Whitewater has already taken down Carroll and Millikin, two top CCIW teams.   Let's hope the Titans play better than at DeVos and get off to a better start tonight.

IWU'70

[Gregory Sager]

The league improved to 10-14 last night, thanks to North Park and Wheaton.
In Wheaton's 76-68 win over St Mary's of Indiana, the Thunder had 16 steals and 8 blocks.
The 16 steals were Wheaton's most in 5 years, since 16 against Lake Forest on Nov 17 2017.
Perhaps the CCIW can go 5-0 tonight and get above .500?

Not very likely. Carthage faces a really uphill battle at perennial power Wisconsin Lutheran; Illinois Wesleyan is going to have to contend with defending national runner-up UW-Whitewater on UWW's home floor; and, while Elmhurst is likely better than it was last season, beating Loras is still probably a bridge too far for the 'jays.

[GoPerry]

In Wheaton's 76-68 win over St Mary's of Indiana, the Thunder had 16 steals and 8 blocks.
The 16 steals were Wheaton's most in 5 years, since 16 against Lake Forest on Nov 17 2017.

Wheaton was led by Caroline Sikkink with 17 pts, 6 rebs and Annika Richardson's 14 pts.  Freshman Anna Fernandez had another nice game with 11 pts and 8 rebs while Kate Oliver had 10 pts.  This was more solidly played game for the Thunder in their third contest.

This weekend they'll head out to Tacoma to play in #24th ranked Puget Sound's Doug McArthur Classic this weekend.  They'll face the Lutes of Pac Lutheran on Friday and then the host Loggers on Saturday.

I overheard that, unfortunately, Annie Tate underwent surgery in late October and encountered some unexpected complications.  Uncertain as to whether she will return this year.  I feel for this young lady who has gone through a lot these twelve months.  I hope she can just get herself healthy to enjoy a great senior year - no matter if she ever suits up again.

[iwu70]

GoPerry, sorry to hear about Annie Tate.  She's a great player and has had so many rough knocks with injuries.

Some tough news for the Titans tonight, too, in Whitewater, with Mallory Powers out, in a boot, some kind of injury to her left foot or ankle.  Not playing.  Don't know details or how long she might be sidelined.  Not sure what starting five Mia Smith will put on the floor to start this one, which has been delayed for some minutes, for some reason.   

IWU'70

[iwu70]

Titans with a much better start tonight -- After the 1Q -- IWU 21 UW-WW 8.     Carlson into the starting line-up. 

'70

[iwu70]

At the half, IWU 38, WW 31.  TOs killing the Titans' big lead.

'70

[iwu70]

UW WW 70  IWU 61

Too bad on this one.  Titans got off to a great start, had a great chance to take down the #4 Warhawks, but the TOs killed them in this one, esp. in the second half.   Just a poor display of ball security, with 25 TOs, given the Warhawks pressure.   Titans led at the half, but WW came back strong in the second half.

WW:
Carollo 20
Alexander 16
Granda 12

For IWU:
Heller 20 and 5, but 10 TOs, too much dribbling.
Palmer 15, some key treys again to get the Titans within 4 late in the second half
Huber 11 and 7
Not enough from the Knutson or Carlson
Powers out with a foot/ankle injury . . . I know not how long.

Others in the rotation tonight:   Mahlum (freshman), Collins, Galvan (freshman) and Tarver

IWU played them pretty well straight up, out rebounding WW 35-32.  Should have won this one . . . the TOs the key difference, the killer tonight.

IWU'70 

So WW 3-0 against the top CCIW teams. 

[RogK]

Note to Greg : Friday's NPU WBB game at U of C is 6pm, not the 4pm listed on some sites.
If you want to see more hoops (who the heck is Seymour Hupes?) than that one :
2pm - WBB : Calvin v Colorado College
4pm - MBB : Colorado v Chicago

[Captain_Joe08]

Wisconsin Lutheran 71
Carthage 51

Warriors outscore Firebirds 42-17 in the second and third quarters to put this game out of reach. Next up for WLC....a road game at #1 Hope (Also have a game against #2 Transylvania in late December part of a rugged non-conference slate).