WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[RogK]

Following a good 14 more seconds of thoughtful reflection on what I saw in the summer league, I offer additional provocative blather:
I see no reason why IWU and Carthage will not make the conference playoffs in the upcoming season. Carthage looks to again have the ingredients to be a strong half-court oriented team, with good athletes (not slothful). IWU looks ready to use their speed to great effectiveness, leaving any less-athletic opposing teams in the dust.
Wheaton will likely be reasonably good, with solid returning talent and some promising freshmen. They probably won't be as good from three-land, losing some of the best shooters the league has ever had.
Millikin and Elmhurst are mysteries (to me, anyway) at this point.
Augie, North Park and North Central all have a good opportunity to move up, but not without improving significantly.
At the D3 final four, I observed that 3 of the 4 teams there implemented full-court defense for pretty much the full 40 minutes. The team that didn't do so left town without a win. The other 3 either won twice or once. So, I wonder, will pressing/trapping become more respectable and catch on?

[iwu70]

RogK, basically share your assessment early on here for the next CCIW women's season.  IWU will surely continue the "run and jump" and has the personnel again to pursue aggressively that style of play.  It has been their bread and butter for some years.  I'm sure they will keep doing it until it proves not to work.  Key thing for IWU will be stronger, better post and rebounding play, in addition to Shelby Jackson, to replace the toughness of Solari, and also how to replace the scoring and overall versatility of Olivia Lett.  This will be very difficult, though I'm sure the overall offensive posture of the Titans next year will be more balanced, with perhaps 4 or more players scoring in double figures.  Foot speed and trey shooting of course will be a key again.  Look to Gardner to have a big big year and also for significant improvement, greater contributions from Baltes, McMahhon, Bilek, Scurlock and Jackson.  Lot of good talent there and it can again be mixed together in a new and good way . . . and good things will again happen.  Leave it to Mia to stir the talent pot.  IWU will need a few newbies, especially front court players to step up and make some new and surprising contributions.  We'll see.  Looking forward to seeing the 2012-13 Titans in action.  I share your view that it is mainly Carthage and WC that will again contend with IWU.  I'd likely pick EC again to be the fourth in the CCIW tournament come season end. 

IWU70

[RogK]

North Park's new schedule is here :
http://athletics.northpark.edu/schedule.aspx?path=wbball&tab=_basketball
I guess I'd better not wear my Banana Slugs shirt to NP's gym this season.

[Gregory Sager]

NPU clearly had a late cancellation, which explains why Moody Bible is on the sked.

Go right ahead and wear your Banana Slugs shirt in the crackerbox, Rog. I'd wear one myself, if I owned one. They've been a hot pop-culture commodity ever since John Travolta's character Vincent Vega wore one in Pulp Fiction. When NPU's men's team visited the west coast and played in a tournament with UCSC several years ago I asked one of the coaches to bring me back a Banana Slugs shirt. Unfortunately, he forgot.

[RogK]

Here's something to mull over in late August. When Augie scored in the 70s last season, they were 3-1; in the 60s : 8-4; in the 50s : 0-3; in the 40s : 0-5; in the 30s : 0-1.

[NCF]

Here's something to mull over in late August. When Augie scored in the 70s last season, they were 3-1; in the 60s : 8-4; in the 50s : 0-3; in the 40s : 0-5; in the 30s : 0-1.

How many three pointers in those high scoring games?

[RogK]

Augie wasn't involved in any high scoring games last year.

[NCF]

Augie wasn't involved in any high scoring games last year.

I'm thinking 60's and 70's are fairly high scoring girls games. Are there teams that averaged in the 80's, 90's or beyond? How many as compared to all d3 teams? Just curious, no time to do the research.

[RogK]

The NCAA site shows that last year's D3 WBB leader was Louisiana College at 86.4, followed by Knox at 83.5 and the champs IWU at 77.6.
Please don't think of scores in the 60s as high; that level is extremely average for a 40:00 game. I'd define high scoring as somewhere in the area of 170-180 combined points. Others might say 160 is pretty high.
To return to your earlier inquiry, here are some details of the four games in which Augie reached 70 or more:
78 vs Monmouth (48 pts from 2FG, 6 pts from 3FG, 24 FT); 72 vs Presentation (60 2FG, 6 3FG, 6 FT); 70 vs Webster (48 2FG, 6 3FG, 16 FT); 76 vs Central/Iowa (50 2FG, 12 3FG, 14 FT). So, no, they didn't get much from threeland.

[NCF]

The NCAA site shows that last year's D3 WBB leader was Louisiana College at 86.4, followed by Knox at 83.5 and the champs IWU at 77.6.
Please don't think of scores in the 60s as high; that level is extremely average for a 40:00 game. I'd define high scoring as somewhere in the area of 170-180 combined points. Others might say 160 is pretty high.
To return to your earlier inquiry, here are some details of the four games in which Augie reached 70 or more:
78 vs Monmouth (48 pts from 2FG, 6 pts from 3FG, 24 FT); 72 vs Presentation (60 2FG, 6 3FG, 6 FT); 70 vs Webster (48 2FG, 6 3FG, 16 FT); 76 vs Central/Iowa (50 2FG, 12 3FG, 14 FT). So, no, they didn't get much from threeland.

Interesting and many thanks for taking the time to get the stats

[RogK]

You're welcome.
I just noticed that you have a helmet next to your posts. Here's a site that might be fun to look at, since the FB season is approaching :
http://www.nationalchamps.net/Helmet_Project/
Scroll down the list on the left for D3.

[NCF]

You're welcome.
I just noticed that you have a helmet next to your posts. Here's a site that might be fun to look at, since the FB season is approaching :
http://www.nationalchamps.net/Helmet_Project/
Scroll down the list on the left for D3.

It took some help from Raider 68 to get that helmet. The other Url's I tried didn't work or were no longer available. That is a very cool site. Thanks again.

[Gregory Sager]

Augie wasn't involved in any high scoring games last year.

I'm thinking 60's and 70's are fairly high scoring girls games. Are there teams that averaged in the 80's, 90's or beyond? How many as compared to all d3 teams? Just curious, no time to do the research.

NCF, just as an FYI, when referring to female athletics you use the term "girls" for high-school sports and "women'" for college sports. Just thought I'd point that out, so that you don't slip up at an NCC women's basketball game and get an earful from some irate parent.

[NCF]

Augie wasn't involved in any high scoring games last year.

I'm thinking 60's and 70's are fairly high scoring girls games. Are there teams that averaged in the 80's, 90's or beyond? How many as compared to all d3 teams? Just curious, no time to do the research.

NCF, just as an FYI, when referring to female athletics you use the term "girls" for high-school sports and "women'" for college sports. Just thought I'd point that out, so that you don't slip up at an NCC women's basketball game and get an earful from some irate parent.

I'll just give it right back

[Pat Coleman]

Augie wasn't involved in any high scoring games last year.

I'm thinking 60's and 70's are fairly high scoring girls games. Are there teams that averaged in the 80's, 90's or beyond? How many as compared to all d3 teams? Just curious, no time to do the research.

NCF, just as an FYI, when referring to female athletics you use the term "girls" for high-school sports and "women'" for college sports. Just thought I'd point that out, so that you don't slip up at an NCC women's basketball game and get an earful from some irate parent.

I'll just give it right back

Oh -- that makes much more sense. I couldn't figure out why he was trying to compare high school scoring averages to D-III.