WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

Backseat Driver · February 17, 2013, 12:47:51 PM

Sounds like quite the rally by Millikin last night. Any further details on that?

Heading into Tuesday, one would think that North Central has the best shot of securing the #4 seed, but at the same time they're playing on the road against a Millikin squad that is playing better than its record might suggest.

A road win by either North Park (@Carthage) or Elmhurst (@Wheaton) would certainly come as a surprise. Judging by his comments in postgame interviews and on Hoopsville, I'm sure Tim Bernero isn't thrilled with the idea of playing North Central on Friday night in the conference tournament. Given the frenetic nature of playing against the Cardinals, that's understandable, but you've got to think that the winner of the IWU/Wheaton game will have survived a tough, down-to-the-wire game on Friday.

Tuesday night will be interesting.

Backer · February 17, 2013, 01:27:53 PM

Have any of you math majors figured out the tie breaker situation for fourth place First glance looks like all three teams are 1-1 against each other head-to-head? What's the story line for Tuesday?

1. Head-to-head competition.
2. Record against team(s) above the tie beginning with the highest ranked team.
3. Record vs. team or teams in 3 rd place. If still tied, go to the next place for determination, et cetera.
4. Road record against conference schools.
5. Record in their last seven conference games.
6. The point spread of the tied teams' head-to head competition.
7. Coin toss

Backseat Driver · February 17, 2013, 01:58:51 PM

Frankly, there's a lot of different scenarios to look at.

As I said earlier, the most likely is an NCC win, and losses by NPU and Elmhurst.

Beyond that, the three teams are all 1-1 against each other and none of them have beaten any of the top 3 teams, so you'd be getting down to 4 thru 7 on the tiebreaks, I'm pretty sure.

Backer · February 17, 2013, 02:48:55 PM

Quote from: Backseat Driver on February 17, 2013, 01:58:51 PM
Frankly, there's a lot of different scenarios to look at.

As I said earlier, the most likely is an NCC win, and losses by NPU and Elmhurst.

Beyond that, the three teams are all 1-1 against each other and none of them have beaten any of the top 3 teams, so you'd be getting down to 4 thru 7 on the tiebreaks, I'm pretty sure.

See what you mean. If there are no upsets, the scenario you describe is most likely.

Backseat Driver · February 17, 2013, 02:55:36 PM

Quote from: Backer on February 17, 2013, 02:48:55 PM
Quote from: Backseat Driver on February 17, 2013, 01:58:51 PM
Frankly, there's a lot of different scenarios to look at.

As I said earlier, the most likely is an NCC win, and losses by NPU and Elmhurst.

Beyond that, the three teams are all 1-1 against each other and none of them have beaten any of the top 3 teams, so you'd be getting down to 4 thru 7 on the tiebreaks, I'm pretty sure.

See what you mean. If there are no upsets, the scenario you describe is most likely.

Well, all I really did was say that the most likely scenario is that there wont be any upsets. If there is an upset (or two), then that's where the tiebreak situations come into play.

Gregory Sager · February 17, 2013, 05:05:20 PM

Tiebreakers explained.

Go Millikin!

And ... uh ... Go Wheaton.

Backer · February 17, 2013, 09:50:08 PM

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 17, 2013, 05:05:20 PM
Tiebreakers explained.

Go Millikin!

And ... uh ... Go Wheaton.

That's the ticket. The link says it all.

Backseat Driver · February 17, 2013, 10:48:44 PM

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 17, 2013, 05:05:20 PM
Tiebreakers explained.

Go Millikin!

And ... uh ... Go Wheaton.

If you type Go Wheaton enough times, I think it will start to grow on you

And Backer, you can see why I didn't want to start trying to break down the other possibilities

Backer · February 18, 2013, 10:06:56 AM

Quote from: Backseat Driver on February 17, 2013, 10:48:44 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 17, 2013, 05:05:20 PM
Tiebreakers explained.

Go Millikin!

And ... uh ... Go Wheaton.

If you type Go Wheaton enough times, I think it will start to grow on you

And Backer, you can see why I didn't want to start trying to break down the other possibilities

Certainly! But I'm glad somebody did.

Backseat Driver · February 18, 2013, 03:32:10 PM

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 16, 2013, 08:24:18 PM
If Sarah Peterson isn't this week's CCIW Player of the Week, there oughta be a criminal investigation. She set a new career high for points tonight, came pretty darned close to a triple-double, and had five blocks and five steals, to boot (with only three turnovers). Yeah, as a power forward she scored a bunch of layups on the press break, but she also hit a number of pull-ups from the lane and from the baseline, and even made a pair of treys, with the big one at the 23-second mark being easily the biggest shot of her entire North Park career. Her performance this evening was nothing short of remarkable.

No criminal investigation necessary. Congratulations to Sarah Peterson for her second player of the week award this season! http://cciw.org/news/2013/2/18/WBB_0218135601.aspx

Backseat Driver · February 18, 2013, 06:58:57 PM

CCIW-champion Carthage falls one vote shy of the top 25 this week. Wheaton retains just one vote.

iwu70 · February 19, 2013, 04:32:18 AM

Congrats to Sarah Peterson. Great performances this past week.

CCIW tournament should be good, with some really hard-fought games. IWU has a tough road -- to beat WC, then likely take down CC again at home. It's doable, so let's go get that AQ, Titans!

IWU70

RogK · February 19, 2013, 11:29:26 AM

Having been off-line a few days, I'm a little late with this.
Yes indeed, Sarah Peterson was fabulous Saturday. Among her 5 blocks were at least two deflected 3FG att where she came "out of nowhere." She was a key player advancing the ball up through NC's press. Her very full stat line tells the rest. All this was done with aching knees, it appeared to me.
Kamauria Acree had an extraordinarily strong game, too. What doesn't register among her stats is that she stopped NC's guards from driving to the hoop.
Shaina Yalda was very helpful to the Viking cause, as well, with smart energetic play.
North Central played almost well enough to win. As in the first meeting of these teams, NC seemed to stop doing what was working and altered their style of play in the last few minutes. And a couple of players who were "lights out" from three-land bypassed some open looks in the 2nd half. It looks weird when a "System" team doesn't shoot open threes. Oh well, easy for me to be a critic! The Cardinals better not hold back anything tonight in Decatur.
By the way, when Greg writes "Go Wheaton" he would prefer to add "and don't come back."

Backseat Driver · February 19, 2013, 12:19:24 PM

Quote from: RogK on February 19, 2013, 11:29:26 AM
By the way, when Greg writes "Go Wheaton" he would prefer to add "and don't come back."

Indeed. I am very aware of that sentiment, since I am a partially Swedish Wheaton alum working at a Covenant camp and retreat center

RogK · February 19, 2013, 12:42:41 PM

My congratulations to Tim Bernero and his team for wrapping up the regular season title. Undoubtedly, he locked up the CCIW Coach of the Year honor, too.
However, his team and Wheaton and Illinois Wesleyan will all be very interested in winning tonight, assuming that they all have some uncertainty about getting an NCAA seed if they lose a game this coming weekend.