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Backseat Driver

Quote from: TitanPride on February 20, 2013, 04:49:35 PM
New Midwest Regional rankings:

1   Cornell 22-1   22-1
2   UW-Whitewater   18-4   20-5
3   Washington U.   18-4   19-5
4   Carthage   18-4   20-4
5   UW-Oshkosh   17-5   20-5
6   Illinois Wesleyan   15-5   17-7
7   Monmouth   18-4   19-4
8   UW-Stevens Point   19-5   20-5

Surprising to see the Titans move in ahead of Wheaton?

Wheaton .818 in region (18-4), .466 (OWP), .522 (OOWP), .485 (SOS), 0-3 vs. regionally ranked
IWU        .750 in region (15-5), .593 (OWP), .532 (OOWP), .573 (SOS), 2-3 vs. regionally ranked

The big difference between IWU and Wheaton is the strength of schedule. Wheaton didn't end up with as tough of a schedule as normal because teams that have been good in recent years (i.e. Chicago, Saint Mary's) were down this year. The Thunder is also probably hurting because of the loss to Augie.

Now, will Wheaton's previous two wins over IWU be counted as wins vs. regionally ranked in next week's data? If so, another win over IWU on Friday would give Wheaton a nice boost.

I think the biggest takeaway for the Thunder is just to go out and win the tournament this weekend.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Backseat Driver on February 20, 2013, 08:09:59 PMNow, will Wheaton's previous two wins over IWU be counted as wins vs. regionally ranked in next week's data?

Yes, they will.

Quote from: Backseat Driver on February 20, 2013, 08:09:59 PMI think the biggest takeaway for the Thunder is just to go out and win the tournament this weekend.

I think that that holds true for all three teams. While nobody is doing the exhaustive work on compiling data for Pool C possibilities on the women's side as the men's side enjoys, it doesn't seem to me that any of the three appears to be a Pool C lock at this point. Wheaton, obviously, is the team whose Pool C chances are closest to nil at this point, but even Carthage doesn't appear to be in tremendous shape -- especially since Wash U didn't win the UAA and is thus standing in line in front of Carthage in the Pool C sweepstakes. I would be surprised if Carthage didn't get a Pool C berth if the Lady Reds don't win the CCIW tourney, but I wouldn't be shocked.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Spencer19881991


RogK

Replies 3821 - 3825 contain some discussion of possible all-CCIW selections. What's your view?

Spencer19881991

I think Kuzmanic, Olson, and Seibring are sure things.  I am thinking that Corcoran should be the 4th  as part of a championship team.  The fifth could be one of three ...Bohlen from Wheaton, McMahon from IWU, or McMahon from Elmhurst.  Leaning toward Fiona McMahon from Elmhurst.

iwu70

Spencer, agree with you on first team -- likely McMahon from EC.  McMahon from IWU likely 2nd team.  Others, I think you are on target.  Corcoran likely 1st team.  CC gets two on 1st, very likely.  Seibring and Olson for sure.

Great season -- should be some great games this weekend in Kenosha.

Go Titans -- bring home the AQ!!! 

IWU70

thunder38

Quote from: Backseat Driver on February 20, 2013, 08:09:59 PM
Quote from: TitanPride on February 20, 2013, 04:49:35 PM
New Midwest Regional rankings:

1   Cornell 22-1   22-1
2   UW-Whitewater   18-4   20-5
3   Washington U.   18-4   19-5
4   Carthage   18-4   20-4
5   UW-Oshkosh   17-5   20-5
6   Illinois Wesleyan   15-5   17-7
7   Monmouth   18-4   19-4
8   UW-Stevens Point   19-5   20-5

Surprising to see the Titans move in ahead of Wheaton?

Wheaton .818 in region (18-4), .466 (OWP), .522 (OOWP), .485 (SOS), 0-3 vs. regionally ranked
IWU        .750 in region (15-5), .593 (OWP), .532 (OOWP), .573 (SOS), 2-3 vs. regionally ranked

The big difference between IWU and Wheaton is the strength of schedule. Wheaton didn't end up with as tough of a schedule as normal because teams that have been good in recent years (i.e. Chicago, Saint Mary's) were down this year. The Thunder is also probably hurting because of the loss to Augie.

Now, will Wheaton's previous two wins over IWU be counted as wins vs. regionally ranked in next week's data? If so, another win over IWU on Friday would give Wheaton a nice boost.

I think the biggest takeaway for the Thunder is just to go out and win the tournament this weekend.

So then to update your post BD, Wheaton is also 2-3 vs. regionally ranked opponents. It really just comes down to Wheaton played a cupcake schedule and the wins over Chicago and Saint Mary's don't mean as much as they usually do. A third win over IWU will help and it might put Wheaton into the bottom two of three of the regional rankings but its ultimately a win or you're not in situation.

That being said, North Central provides an interesting facet to the tournament since Carthage will have to play a back to back against Wheaton or IWU right after playing the system. While the 2/3 might be a harder semifinal, at least you're not playing the system.
You win some, you lose some, and sometimes it rains.

RogK

Just checked CCIW's site. All-conf should be coming up soon.
A side note, since the two Chicago area NAIA WBB leagues merged into one 12-team league this year, they decided to allow all 12 teams into their conference tournament. On Monday, the 4 games featured 5th place through 12th place. Those winners played seeds 1-4 on Wednesday. Three of the top seeds won on Wednesday, but 7th seed Indiana U South Bend also won. So today IUSB will play its 3rd game in 5 days. If they advance to tomorrow's championship, it'll be their 4th game in 6 days.

thunder38

http://www.cciw.org/sports/2013/2/22/WBB_0222131057.aspx

Here's the link to All-Conference

Coach of the Year: Tim Bernero, Carthage
Player of the Year: Stephanie Kuzmanic, Carthage
Newcomer of the Year: Hannah Considine, Wheaton
You win some, you lose some, and sometimes it rains.

RogK

Thanks, thunder38. Congratulations to all. Not a bad choice among them. The CCIW website lists them alphabetically within each team, so I will too.
1st : Corcoran, Gardner, Kuzmanic, Olson, Seibring
2nd : Bohlen, C McMahon, F McMahon, Peterson, Shumaker
3rd : Acree, Czaplicki, Hovee, Senette, Wenzel.
The Newcomer of the Year is a new award. Congrats to Hannah C for winning it. I wonder, though, if it is intended strictly for someone who did not get on teams 1-3? What if we have a freshman MOP next year?
And Karen Senette, although a junior, is in her first year in the CCIW. Oh well, just wondering.
If any near-miss (didn't make all-CCIW) players may be reading this, don't feel bad! There isn't room for all the fine players in the league to be all-CCIW, but your coaches, teammates and us here all appreciate what you do.

keith45

Quote from: RogK on February 22, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
Thanks, thunder38. Congratulations to all. Not a bad choice among them. The CCIW website lists them alphabetically within each team, so I will too.
1st : Corcoran, Gardner, Kuzmanic, Olson, Seibring
2nd : Bohlen, C McMahon, F McMahon, Peterson, Shumaker
3rd : Acree, Czaplicki, Hovee, Senette, Wenzel.
The Newcomer of the Year is a new award. Congrats to Hannah C for winning it. I wonder, though, if it is intended strictly for someone who did not get on teams 1-3? What if we have a freshman MOP next year?
And Karen Senette, although a junior, is in her first year in the CCIW. Oh well, just wondering.
If any near-miss (didn't make all-CCIW) players may be reading this, don't feel bad! There isn't room for all the fine players in the league to be all-CCIW, but your coaches, teammates and us here all appreciate what you do.

Well said Rogk! I guess I have a small issue with NPU getting 2 and NCC getting 1..I would have thought 1 more NCC player makes 3rd team..but a small issue, congrats to all who made it!

Gregory Sager

Quote from: keith45 on February 22, 2013, 04:36:27 PM
Quote from: RogK on February 22, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
Thanks, thunder38. Congratulations to all. Not a bad choice among them. The CCIW website lists them alphabetically within each team, so I will too.
1st : Corcoran, Gardner, Kuzmanic, Olson, Seibring
2nd : Bohlen, C McMahon, F McMahon, Peterson, Shumaker
3rd : Acree, Czaplicki, Hovee, Senette, Wenzel.
The Newcomer of the Year is a new award. Congrats to Hannah C for winning it. I wonder, though, if it is intended strictly for someone who did not get on teams 1-3? What if we have a freshman MOP next year?
And Karen Senette, although a junior, is in her first year in the CCIW. Oh well, just wondering.
If any near-miss (didn't make all-CCIW) players may be reading this, don't feel bad! There isn't room for all the fine players in the league to be all-CCIW, but your coaches, teammates and us here all appreciate what you do.

Well said Rogk! I guess I have a small issue with NPU getting 2 and NCC getting 1..I would have thought 1 more NCC player makes 3rd team..but a small issue, congrats to all who made it!

NPU and NCC were only separated by one game, Keith, and they split their season series. Given that NCC uses the Arseneault System, it's to be expected that the other seven coaches would not be inclined to single out more than one of the dozen and a half Cardinals who play regularly.

Also, the two NPU players are both seniors who did more than enough to earn slots on the All-CCIW team.

Congrats, Sarah and Kamauria!
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

thunder38

Quote from: RogK on February 22, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
Thanks, thunder38. Congratulations to all. Not a bad choice among them. The CCIW website lists them alphabetically within each team, so I will too.
1st : Corcoran, Gardner, Kuzmanic, Olson, Seibring
2nd : Bohlen, C McMahon, F McMahon, Peterson, Shumaker
3rd : Acree, Czaplicki, Hovee, Senette, Wenzel.
The Newcomer of the Year is a new award. Congrats to Hannah C for winning it. I wonder, though, if it is intended strictly for someone who did not get on teams 1-3? What if we have a freshman MOP next year?
And Karen Senette, although a junior, is in her first year in the CCIW. Oh well, just wondering.
If any near-miss (didn't make all-CCIW) players may be reading this, don't feel bad! There isn't room for all the fine players in the league to be all-CCIW, but your coaches, teammates and us here all appreciate what you do.

Rog the Newcomer of the Year is a new award but it is not just for those who did not make the team. Leah DeMoss and Kelly Farrell split the award and both were All-CCIW 1st Team.
You win some, you lose some, and sometimes it rains.

Backseat Driver

#3883
Wheaton over IWU 62-59. Brooke Olson hit the go-ahead 3 with about 30 seconds left.
Box: http://athletics.wheaton.edu/custompages/wbball/wbb_stats/wwhe26.htm

thunder38

Brooke Olson clutched up huge for the Thunder. Down 1, she hit a right wing three to put Wheaton up 58-57. She then hit the game-winner from NBA range at the top of the key. Incredible. Not sure I've seen this kind of line from her before though.

7-19 from the field, 7-16 from three and only one assist.
You win some, you lose some, and sometimes it rains.