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lmitzel

Quote from: RogK on December 31, 2016, 11:28:03 AM
Hey Imitzel, let us know if you can how Paula Z and Mayson W are doing.

I'll try to touch base with Coach Roof and see what I can dig up.

I feel like this is just a weird year regarding injuries all over the conference. NCC has a bunch, Wheaton had a few as I recall, IWU lost Gabby Holness for the year... I can't remember a worse year for injuries in my admittedly short time involved in CCIW hoops.
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RogK

A pair of games today :
Millikin 70, Coast Guard Academy 49; Yanni Saddler and Devin Curry scored 18 each for the Big Blue.
Elmhurst 70, Beloit 61; Mikaela Eppard recorded 15 pts plus 12 rebs, also 13 pts from Jasmin Bailey and 12 by Lisa Logan.
The remaining nonconf are Wheaton v IIT, Carthage v Olivet (Mich.) and possibly Millikin v Wash U St Lou.

RogK

#5297
I like the eFG% (effective FG pct) stat because it adds the appropriate amount of credit for made threes. Traditional FG% doesn't reveal how many of the made shots were 2s or 3s.
To illustrate the formula, fictional player Dyspepsia Glankpfupst took 10 FG att and made two 2FGs and two 3FGs, for a total of 10 pts.
One way to figure eFG% is to take FGs made (4) and add half of 3s made (1), giving us 5, then divide by FG att (10). Her eFG pct is .500. Her FG% is .400.
Another way to look at it is : how many 2FGs would she have to make in order to score the 10 pts? The answer is 5; 5/10 yields the same .500 eFG%.
This stat doesn't tell us how many of her shot attempts were 2s or 3s, but we don't care because the scoreboard doesn't care.
eFG% doesn't include FTs made or missed, so it's not a full measure of shooting accuracy. But it is far superior to traditional FG% when any 3s are involved.
And, of course, a player who achieves a relatively high FG% or eFG% from a small number of attempts may not be able to maintain that pct if she shot a lot more often.



RogK

#5298
Here are opponent eFG pcts so far :
AUG .439, CRL .547, CTG .434, ELM .432, IWU .484, MIL .463, NCC .449, NPU .387, WHE .398.
Carroll's number stands out; some of it may be that they don't have enough height to defend well. Also they have to be extra cautious about foul trouble.
Given the inevitable disparity among nonconference schedules, we can't draw too many conclusions. OK, back to the Hawks/Blues game.

RogK

Where we left off a few weeks ago -- the conference standings
3-0 Augustana
2-0 Wheaton
2-1 Carthage
1-1 Illinois Wesleyan
1-2 (alphabetically) Elmhurst, Millikin, North Central, North Park
0-2 Carroll

GoPerry

Quote from: RogK on January 03, 2017, 12:41:44 PM
Where we left off a few weeks ago -- the conference standings
3-0 Augustana
2-0 Wheaton
2-1 Carthage
1-1 Illinois Wesleyan
1-2 (alphabetically) Elmhurst, Millikin, North Central, North Park
0-2 Carroll


I like Q's alternate method of tracking the conference race(hope I get it right):

Augie, Wheaton, IWU +1
Carthage, MU, NCC, Carroll 0
NPU -1
Elmhurst -2

The league re-start gets back to the race in earnest this week with some important matchups; 

Tomorrow; Augie vs WC and Carthage vs NPU
Sat:  IWU vs WC; NCC vs NPU; Carthage vs EC

I think Elmhurst and NPU need to grab a road win or 2 to get back in it.  I'd be happy if Wheaton can go 1-1.  It's likewise pretty critical for Augie, IWU and Carthage to hold serve at home.   

lmitzel

Quote from: GoPerry on January 03, 2017, 02:24:15 PM
Quote from: RogK on January 03, 2017, 12:41:44 PM
Where we left off a few weeks ago -- the conference standings
3-0 Augustana
2-0 Wheaton
2-1 Carthage
1-1 Illinois Wesleyan
1-2 (alphabetically) Elmhurst, Millikin, North Central, North Park
0-2 Carroll


I like Q's alternate method of tracking the conference race(hope I get it right):

Augie, Wheaton, IWU +1
Carthage, MU, NCC, Carroll 0
NPU -1
Elmhurst -2

I had to go back and look because the standings confused me at first, but looking at the criteria, it all looks like it matches up.

Quote from: GoPerry on January 03, 2017, 02:24:15 PM
The league re-start gets back to the race in earnest this week with some important matchups; 

Tomorrow; Augie vs WC and Carthage vs NPU
Sat:  IWU vs WC; NCC vs NPU; Carthage vs EC

I think Elmhurst and NPU need to grab a road win or 2 to get back in it.  I'd be happy if Wheaton can go 1-1.  It's likewise pretty critical for Augie, IWU and Carthage to hold serve at home.

IWU-Millikin and NCC-Carroll are the other two games on tap tomorrow night. For NCC, the last time they went to Carroll, Jamie Cuny put up the program's first ever triple-double. Given her injury trouble this year and, even when healthy, she hasn't been quite the block part force she was the last two years, I doubt we'll have a repeat. But this is a crucial game for NCC to get back to .500 in conference ahead of that tough North Park game looming.
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: lmitzel on January 03, 2017, 02:47:40 PM
IWU-Millikin and NCC-Carroll are the other two games on tap tomorrow night. For NCC, the last time they went to Carroll, Jamie Cuny put up the program's first ever triple-double. Given her injury trouble this year and, even when healthy, she hasn't been quite the block part force she was the last two years, I doubt we'll have a repeat. But this is a crucial game for NCC to get back to .500 in conference ahead of that tough North Park game looming.

Trust me, NCC could miss several other players besides Cuny and still walk off the floor with a W against the Pioneers.

As for the "tough North Park game looming," the Vikings are having some serious struggles. They are not playing well at all at either end of the floor, and I am not sanguine about their chances heading into the meat of CCIW play. Of course, I dearly hope that they prove me wrong, but, at least for the moment, this appears to be the right time to catch NPU on the sked.
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Gregory Sager

Congrats to NPU's Liz Rehberger, who followed up her tourney MVP performance in Colorado with being named CCIW Player of the Week today.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

RogK

I take it that Q's method is road wins minus home losses.

lmitzel

Quote from: RogK on December 31, 2016, 11:28:03 AM
Hey Imitzel, let us know if you can how Paula Z and Mayson W are doing.

From what I hear, Paula Zerante should be okay to go for tomorrow. Wish I had better news regarding Mayson Whipple. Sounds like she's going to be out for the foreseeable future. Tough blow. Also ran into Jamie Cuny today, she's good to go.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 03, 2017, 03:33:15 PM
Quote from: lmitzel on January 03, 2017, 02:47:40 PM
IWU-Millikin and NCC-Carroll are the other two games on tap tomorrow night. For NCC, the last time they went to Carroll, Jamie Cuny put up the program's first ever triple-double. Given her injury trouble this year and, even when healthy, she hasn't been quite the block part force she was the last two years, I doubt we'll have a repeat. But this is a crucial game for NCC to get back to .500 in conference ahead of that tough North Park game looming.

Trust me, NCC could miss several other players besides Cuny and still walk off the floor with a W against the Pioneers.

As for the "tough North Park game looming," the Vikings are having some serious struggles. They are not playing well at all at either end of the floor, and I am not sanguine about their chances heading into the meat of CCIW play. Of course, I dearly hope that they prove me wrong, but, at least for the moment, this appears to be the right time to catch NPU on the sked.

This is where losing Mayson hurts. I'm not as worried about Carroll, and this gives the depth at the point guard spot a chance to shine, but it's still not good.

Quote from: RogK on January 03, 2017, 05:43:54 PM
I take it that Q's method is road wins minus home losses.

Yeah.
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Quote from: lmitzel on January 03, 2017, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: RogK on December 31, 2016, 11:28:03 AM
Hey Imitzel, let us know if you can how Paula Z and Mayson W are doing.

From what I hear, Paula Zerante should be okay to go for tomorrow. Wish I had better news regarding Mayson Whipple. Sounds like she's going to be out for the foreseeable future. Tough blow. Also ran into Jamie Cuny today, she's good to go.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 03, 2017, 03:33:15 PM
Quote from: lmitzel on January 03, 2017, 02:47:40 PM
IWU-Millikin and NCC-Carroll are the other two games on tap tomorrow night. For NCC, the last time they went to Carroll, Jamie Cuny put up the program's first ever triple-double. Given her injury trouble this year and, even when healthy, she hasn't been quite the block part force she was the last two years, I doubt we'll have a repeat. But this is a crucial game for NCC to get back to .500 in conference ahead of that tough North Park game looming.

Trust me, NCC could miss several other players besides Cuny and still walk off the floor with a W against the Pioneers.

As for the "tough North Park game looming," the Vikings are having some serious struggles. They are not playing well at all at either end of the floor, and I am not sanguine about their chances heading into the meat of CCIW play. Of course, I dearly hope that they prove me wrong, but, at least for the moment, this appears to be the right time to catch NPU on the sked.

This is where losing Mayson hurts. I'm not as worried about Carroll, and this gives the depth at the point guard spot a chance to shine, but it's still not good.



Losing Whipple is certainly a tough one.  She had a so-so game at Wheaton when I saw her but her court sense and overall ability was noticeable.  Let's hope she doesn't miss too much.

iwu70

Whipple was tremendous against IWU earlier.  Really fun to watch.  Hope she gets back soon. 

Yes, some big games upcoming.  Hope IWU gets the W vs. WC.  That would be big. 

'70

RogK

While Mayson Whipple is out, I imagine that Caroline Heimerdinger (currently 11.3 min per game) and Lyndsay Brennan (9.7 min / g) can take over most or all of Whipple's minutes; from what I've seen, they have the athleticism for playing a lot at a fast pace. Likely a 3rd player will handle some of the dribbling duties, but not sure who. We'll see, eh?
Very incidentally, last night I saw North Central's Strength of Schedule improve -- attended Benedictine's 60-49 win at Dominican.

lmitzel

Quote from: RogK on January 04, 2017, 09:16:55 AM
While Mayson Whipple is out, I imagine that Caroline Heimerdinger (currently 11.3 min per game) and Lyndsay Brennan (9.7 min / g) can take over most or all of Whipple's minutes; from what I've seen, they have the athleticism for playing a lot at a fast pace. Likely a 3rd player will handle some of the dribbling duties, but not sure who. We'll see, eh?
Very incidentally, last night I saw North Central's Strength of Schedule improve -- attended Benedictine's 60-49 win at Dominican.

Yes, I believe Heimerdinger will end up taking over the starting duties with (I think?) Shannon Ryan coming in on the first line change, though they'll share time with Lyndsay Brennan as well. While it'll be hard for them to replace Whipple's ability to hit off-balance scoop shots, they're all good at getting to the rim. It'll be an adjustment to be sure, but it'll also be a good opportunity to see what's available at that spot. From the limited action I've seen, all three have been pretty good this season.
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