WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

Gregory Sager · February 23, 2018, 02:09:22 PM

I'm very disappointed by the All-CCIW team. North Park finished seventh, with two teams below it in the standings, and yet NPU was not represented at all on the All-CCIW team, while the two teams below it in the standings were.

Shaylee Sloan should've made the second team.

RogK · February 23, 2018, 02:47:12 PM

Reminds me that North Central was 8-8 last season and had no one selected. Could've been Anita Sterling or Paula Zerante.

Gregory Sager · February 23, 2018, 02:58:45 PM

I felt the same way about NCC last season.

lmitzel · February 23, 2018, 03:08:13 PM

I guess I can amend my previous comment about not having any complaints. If you're going to go to the effort of putting a representative from the two teams that went 3-13 in the conference, you can include a rep from a team that finished better than both of them. I'd argue last year's snub was more egregious not out of homerism but because a team that went 1-15 got a rep but the aforementioned 8-8 Cardinals didn't. Either way, you can argue a major snub.

I know it's not a requirement to represent every team (or at least I don't think it is), but if you're going to represent eight of the nine teams in the conference, you'd better have a good reason not to include the ninth.

RogK · February 23, 2018, 03:22:47 PM

In the past, I've suggested proportioning all-conf spots based on wins in CCIW play. Somehow the collective wisdom of the coaches always saw fit to ignore that suggestion. I'm still almost bitter to this day!
How about the way the NACC did it this year -- 10 players on 1st team, 5 on 2nd team, 1 honorable mention.
I like the UAA version more -- 7 1st team, 7 2nd team, varying quantities of honorable mentions (I'm not aware of how many votes are needed).

RogK · February 23, 2018, 03:58:49 PM

If anybody gives a rat's, here is how all-CCIW proportionate to wins in CCIW play would look :
(one win earns 2/9ths of a spot)
IWU 3.33 spots
WHE 3.11
CTG 2.44
ELM 2
AUG 1.78
CRL 1.11
NPU 0.89
MIL , NCC 0.67
By this measure, Elmhurst would have the biggest gripe (-1), followed by NPU (-.89) and AUG (-.78).

GoPerry · February 23, 2018, 04:06:47 PM

How does the voting work? First of all, it's blind right? And then, does each coach list 8 players for first team and 8 for their second team? Or does each coach simply list 16 players and then the 1-8 vote getters are first team and the 9-16 are second? Either process probably produces a decent amount of noise for those last few spots, especially this year. I guess my point is that my list of 16 would also be slightly different, but the process itself is bound to produce a few surprises.

RogK · February 23, 2018, 04:50:39 PM

I think the coaches nominate player(s) for 1st team. I guess that they each have 8 votes with which to pick from the 1st team nominees. After the top 8 is decided, they vote for MOP from among those 8.
The leftovers are then considered for 2nd team, along with any new nominees.
I'd assume all votes are secret ballot.
I haven't verified this during this season.
Anyone please correct anything I got wrong!

iwu70 · February 23, 2018, 06:25:04 PM

Warm congrats to all the All-CCIW honorees. Of course, I'm very very happy about Ehresman. Most deserving, IMHO.

On to the tournament.

'70

Mr. Ypsi · February 23, 2018, 07:09:39 PM

Entering the 4th quarter, Wheaton and Carthage are tied at 49. Hannah Frazier has been the big gun so far - 19 points; no one else for either team has more than 10.

iwu70 · February 23, 2018, 07:39:20 PM

Wheaton pulls away to win over CC, 69-54. Frazier with 26. Carthage played WC tough until about the last 6 minutes or so.

WC into the CCIW Tournament Championship game, as expected, on Saturday night.

'70

GoPerry · February 23, 2018, 07:41:28 PM

Wheaton over Carthage 69-54

Hannah Frazier      26 pts, 10 rebs, 3 assts, 3 blks
Maggie Dansdill   15 pts, 6 rebs
Kelly Lawson      12 pts, 6 rebs
Jordan Myroth      6 pts, 7 assists

Autumn Kalis      12 pts
Morgan Harris      11 pts, 8 rebs
Sammie Woodward   9 pts
Madie Kaelber, Bailey Gilbert    8 pts each

It wasn't easy and it wasn't pretty. Final score is not at all indicative of how close this game was, tied 49-49 after 3 quarters. But WC outscored the Lady Reds 20-5 in the final quarter and did what they needed to get a win. Credit to Carthage for giving the Thunder all they could handle but Wheaton eventually wore the Lady Reds down. Huge game by Hannah Frazier.

A little concerning at the slow start, lackadaisical sloppiness, 19 turnovers, and at times rather soft defense by the Thunder. At tournament time intensity has to be turned up and be present right from the start. Every team from now on will bury you if you don't. Wheaton got the victory so all is well. But I'm not sure Kent Madsen had his team quite ready to play tonight. The fact that they hadn't played since last Saturday (no game on Tuesday) might have something to do with it.

Mr. Ypsi · February 23, 2018, 08:41:21 PM

The Titans seemed determined to remove all doubt very early, jumping out to a 34-6 lead!! And that despite newly named MOP Rebekah Ehresman having zero points.

Mr. Ypsi · February 23, 2018, 08:52:25 PM

At the half, IWU 44, Elmhurst 21.

ODDITY of the first half: neither Ehresman or Eppard has made a single FG! But each IS still doing their #1 specialty - Ehresman leads all players in assists; Eppard leads all players in rebounds

iwu70 · February 23, 2018, 08:55:58 PM

Yes, IWU up 44-21 at the half, over EC. Looks like we'll get the rubber match, IWU vs. WC, the two top CCIW teams, in the Championship Game. Only appropriate.

IWU'70