WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Jester1390]

for all my fellow fans on this board  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9kfdEyV3RQ but even better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJBFD-Wvc7U

[gordonmann]

Jester, can I assume that was your daughter who had that surname playing against DePauw on Sunday?

I watched the second half and was impressed by the grit that she and the Fightin Engineers showed against a DePauw team that looks really, really good to me.

[Jester1390]

That is some blood running around out there and would be mortified that I talk about her lol

[Gregory Sager]

You're the father of a post-adolescent. Your job is to embarrass your daughter in public. Embrace the task.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

oh ok i have been rebutted damn spent the whole day on here i need to go make money to pay for my kids school.  The hope and amherst fan is sitting here and saying what are you guys going on and on about we will destroy all of you.

Yikes, this Hope (and Amherst) fan learned the hard way not to assume any win will come easy especially with this crowd.  Last games against RHIT were nail biters down to the wire; IWU nearly gave me a heart attack last time we played; CCIW has always been tough including a number of Wheaton games and even remembering back maybe 7-8 years when Carthage knocked Hope out of the NCAA tournament.

Roundball999, as I was typing my last post I thought to myself that you were definitely the first finger I would expect to be counted when it comes to Hope fans perusing this board.

Yup, I like to follow boards around the region.  I always support regional teams (except when playing the Dutch), it's interesting to know something about the teams you might meet in noncon or postseason and of course you always want the strength of schedule and regional ranking benefits!  In any event, here's best wishes for a great season for all, health to the young ladies, and hopefully a complete season!

Actually I do as well.  Reading about other teams and players has lead me to find a game to watch online occaisionally - great way to fill an empty space between Hope games, while I scout the competition so to speak. 

[GoPerry]

Wheaton is up to 6th in the first poll with actual game results.  I thought the pre-season #11 was too high and still feel the same about #6 despite the 7-0 record.  Top 10?  No.  Top 15-20?  Maybe.  Still, that's a pretty good start against a few good teams and credit is due for that.  But the performance on the floor thus far doesn't strike me as an elite team dominating opponents.   They need to get a little more scoring going which would likely have to come from Swider or Cassel.   

I'm still not convinced Wheaton is the best team in the league even.  Millikin's three losses came against opponents with a combined 14-2 record on the road and the Big Blue has lots of ways to come at you.

It's looking like Hope is the class of the Division and then there's everyone else.  And why not with both Schoonveld and Voskuil back?  They're scoring lots of points and blowing everyone away including a decent Baldwin Wallace team by 28 pts.  Whitman #2 will be interesting as I'm not sure how they'll be evaluated since they will end up with almost no common opponents in the top 25 or orv (just UT-Dallas as of now).

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Wheaton is up to 6th in the first poll with actual game results.  I thought the pre-season #11 was too high and still feel the same about #6 despite the 7-0 record.  Top 10?  No.  Top 15-20?  Maybe.  Still, that's a pretty good start against a few good teams and credit is due for that.  But the performance on the floor thus far doesn't strike me as an elite team dominating opponents.   They need to get a little more scoring going which would likely have to come from Swider or Cassel.   

I'm still not convinced Wheaton is the best team in the league even.  Millikin's three losses came against opponents with a combined 14-2 record on the road and the Big Blue has lots of ways to come at you.

It's looking like Hope is the class of the Division and then there's everyone else.  And why not with both Schoonveld and Voskuil back?  They're scoring lots of points and blowing everyone away including a decent Baldwin Wallace team by 28 pts.  Whitman #2 will be interesting as I'm not sure how they'll be evaluated since they will end up with almost no common opponents in the top 25 or orv (just UT-Dallas as of now).

I don't watch as many womens games as mens games, but from the games I've watched thus far, outside of Hope, I haven't seen much basketball that looks like the elite NESCAC squads we've seen in recent years.  With so many of the best teams not playing much, if at all, last year, there might be a lot more rust and issues to work out through the season than we're used to seeing.  Nobody really looks polished yet.

[GoPerry]

Wheaton is up to 6th in the first poll with actual game results.  I thought the pre-season #11 was too high and still feel the same about #6 despite the 7-0 record.  Top 10?  No.  Top 15-20?  Maybe.  Still, that's a pretty good start against a few good teams and credit is due for that.  But the performance on the floor thus far doesn't strike me as an elite team dominating opponents.   They need to get a little more scoring going which would likely have to come from Swider or Cassel.   

I'm still not convinced Wheaton is the best team in the league even.  Millikin's three losses came against opponents with a combined 14-2 record on the road and the Big Blue has lots of ways to come at you.

It's looking like Hope is the class of the Division and then there's everyone else.  And why not with both Schoonveld and Voskuil back?  They're scoring lots of points and blowing everyone away including a decent Baldwin Wallace team by 28 pts.  Whitman #2 will be interesting as I'm not sure how they'll be evaluated since they will end up with almost no common opponents in the top 25 or orv (just UT-Dallas as of now).

I don't watch as many womens games as mens games, but from the games I've watched thus far, outside of Hope, I haven't seen much basketball that looks like the elite NESCAC squads we've seen in recent years.  With so many of the best teams not playing much, if at all, last year, there might be a lot more rust and issues to work out through the season than we're used to seeing.  Nobody really looks polished yet.

I had the same impression.  I've watched a few games of others in the rankings and the play seems somewhat spotty  - more unforced errors than one would expect.

[lmitzel]

Well, the good news is North Central shot 2-4 from beyond the arc in the opening quarter of their game at the Ratner Center. The bad news is, they went 0-12 from inside it as Chicago got out to a 22-8 lead after ten minutes, and it didn't get any better from there as the Cardinals got doubled up 80-40 by the Maroons.

Elle Sutter looked good in the one game I've seen in person, and she shot well, leading the Cardinals with 15 points, and Natalie Stavropolous added 12. More distressing is IxChel Leeuwenburgh being held to a single rebound in this one. Peyton Van Soest led all scorers with 18, Klaire Steffens had 16 and six steals, and Mallory Brodnik scored 10 for Chicago.

NCC opens conference play at home on Saturday against Carthage.

[iwu70]

IWU over Eureka by 50 . . . yes, 50.  The Titans came out running and gunning, scoring 39 points in the first Q.  The score after the first was 39-10 and that's all she needed to write.  All IWU pine-sitters got time and experience tonight.  Great ball movement and defensive pressure by the Titans tonight and Eureka was just outmatched on every level, committing 37 TOs

Eck 14
Huber 12
Lansford had a good game and looked much more comfortable playing the point.

and then tons of Titans with 8, 6 and 4 each.   Everybody come down . . .  a fun evening, a good time was had by all.

Huber is going to be one heck of a CCIW player over the next four years.  The freshmen all coming to the fore . . . at times, Mia Smith had three-four top freshmen on the floor at once, replacing seniors . . .  the future is now, esp. with Huber.  She's also a tremendous defensive player and good rebounder, able to post up in the paint area too.  Very quick first step.   

Perhaps this is what the Titans needed to really get on a better track after a 1-4 start.  We'll see, as CCIW play begins on Saturday, vs. Carroll at The Shirk, 5 p.m.

IWU'70

[Gregory Sager]

The big news in CCIW women's basketball tonight was Carthage's pretty substantial 50-39 upset win over Wheaton at Tarble Arena. Unfortunately, I doubt that Tim Bernero is enjoying his big win right now, as his son Anthony suffered a leg injury in the subsequent Wheaton @ Carthage men's game that was apparently serious enough for the Firebirds and Thunder players to form a prayer circle for him.

I sure hope the injury turns out to be less serious than it sounds.

[RogK]

My best wishes to the Bernero family. Thanks for bringing that to our attention Greg.
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as noted on the CCIW men's page, it was an ankle injury

[iwu70]

Very sorry to hear about the injury. 

'70

[Jester1390]

Hmmmmm pine sitters I wonder how those players feel about that description of them.   i have never belittled any players on here and i dont think that was IWU intention but  I have coached many boys and girls in both basketball and football and not all kids will be destined to be starters or significant time players especially when some schools have 20 plus kids on there roster but those same kids are some of my best coaching memories just one of many was a girl who was a senior in high school never played a varsity minute and i was coaching in a fall warm up league for the school team and Jackie was on fire. During half time I told the others shes on fire keep getting her the ball.  That winter she was a pine sitter and only played late in games or as IWU might say garbage time.  At the end of the year party she came up to me and she thanked me and said I know I didnt play much but I will always remember that game and i cant believe i got to hear feed me the ball.

Just remember Kendall Sosa a great player would be a pine sitter at Connecticut. 

[GoPerry]

Carthage over Wheaton 50-39

I wasn't able to watch the game.  But a few notable stats stick out which are becoming thematic for the Thunder and need to be righted very soon.

16-58 for 27.6% FG.  39 pts total for 40 mins.  Trouble scoring.
Almost half the shots were treys – 5/28 for 18% demonstrating (again) that they are really really bad beyond the arc (23% on the year) and yet . . .
20 turnovers, which is above their season avg of 16/game but still too high.
Wheaton had 3 players foul out – Swider, Hermanson, Sikkink.  One Firebird had 3 fouls.  This is very odd and not sure what to make of how that could happen.