WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[RogK]

Greg, since you like the assist/turnover statistic, note that their ratio in 15 conference games is 9.1 : 17.2, or .53, at the bottom of the league.
For the season so far, Lauren Knight is their only player with a positive a/to ratio, 61:55.
Two others are OK : Emma Thistle 20:22 and Marianna Morrissey 29:32.

[Gregory Sager]

Yep. The Firebirds defend well (third-best opponent FG percentage in the league) but they don't take care of the ball (a -1.87 turnover margin, 7th place on that particular leaderboard). And when you don't score much (dead last in the league in points per game, almost five ppg fewer than 8th-ranked Elmhurst), and the points that you do score tend to come off of dribble penetration (hence, Carthage is last in the league in assists), and you don't take care of the ball in general, a lousy a:to is the inevitable result.

I'm sure that Tim's not happy about it.

[RogK]

here are the regional rankings covering games through Sunday Feb 13 :
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-women/d3/regional-rankings-0
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[iwu70]

Should IWU and MU win out, which seems plausible . . . and share the CCIW regular season championship, I think it would be cool for Olivia Lett and Mia Smith to share the Coach of the Year honors . . .  Mentor Coach and Mentee Coach -- both having superb years with their teams.  I actually think Mia Smith got more out of her less-talented team than Olivia Lett did out of her very talented team.  Just my view. 

One game to go.  If the roads are cleared, I'll head up to Rock Island for the last Titan games at Augie on Saturday.  My Dad grew up in Rock Island and I always enjoy a stroll down memory lane -- and of many childhood visits to Rock Island to visit my Grandparents.   

IWU'70

[Gregory Sager]

Should IWU and MU win out, which seems plausible . . . and share the CCIW regular season championship, I think it would be cool for Olivia Lett and Mia Smith to share the Coach of the Year honors . . .  Mentor Coach and Mentee Coach -- both having superb years with their teams.  I actually think Mia Smith got more out of her less-talented team than Olivia Lett did out of her very talented team.  Just my view. 

... and yet just a little while ago this afternoon you said pretty much the exact opposite with regard to the relevance of "get more out of her less-talented team, etc." on the men's board with regard to the criteria used for selecting the COY award. You're so transparently self-serving when it comes to Illinois Wesleyan that it's practically painful to watch.

I'd skip over your posts and save myself the exasperation of reading your inane three-times-a-day-like-clockwork drumbeating for your alma mater, but the sad truth is that posts on this particular board are so sparse that you're basically unavoidable.

[Gregory Sager]

I probably shouldn't have blown up like that, and I apologize. But ... please, ease up just a little on the IWU drumbeating. Please?

[Mr. Ypsi]

Should IWU and MU win out, which seems plausible . . . and share the CCIW regular season championship, I think it would be cool for Olivia Lett and Mia Smith to share the Coach of the Year honors . . .  Mentor Coach and Mentee Coach -- both having superb years with their teams.  I actually think Mia Smith got more out of her less-talented team than Olivia Lett did out of her very talented team.  Just my view. 

... and yet just a little while ago this afternoon you said pretty much the exact opposite with regard to the relevance of "get more out of her less-talented team, etc." on the men's board with regard to the criteria used for selecting the COY award. You're so transparently self-serving when it comes to Illinois Wesleyan that it's practically painful to watch.

I'd skip over your posts and save myself the exasperation of reading your inane three-times-a-day-like-clockwork drumbeating for your alma mater, but the sad truth is that posts on this particular board are so sparse that you're basically unavoidable.

At the risk of kicking my fellow Titan (and classmate), I think you're right about his contradiction.  I disagree with the CCIW coaches' 'rule' that the coach of the championship team is automatically the COY - I agree with seemingly the majority in the men's room that the Millikin coach deserves COY over Ron Rose.  But I'll also disagree with Mark about the COY for the women for the same reason - I think Mia deserves it all alone over Olivia, for so far exceeding expectations.  OTOH, Mia has won it several times while it would be Olivia's first, so I'd not be at all upset if Olivia Lett won it all by herself or if it was shared.  I DO think that 'automatically' giving the award to the coach of the champion totally diminishes the award.

[Gregory Sager]

Should IWU and MU win out, which seems plausible . . . and share the CCIW regular season championship, I think it would be cool for Olivia Lett and Mia Smith to share the Coach of the Year honors . . .  Mentor Coach and Mentee Coach -- both having superb years with their teams.  I actually think Mia Smith got more out of her less-talented team than Olivia Lett did out of her very talented team.  Just my view. 

... and yet just a little while ago this afternoon you said pretty much the exact opposite with regard to the relevance of "get more out of her less-talented team, etc." on the men's board with regard to the criteria used for selecting the COY award. You're so transparently self-serving when it comes to Illinois Wesleyan that it's practically painful to watch.

I'd skip over your posts and save myself the exasperation of reading your inane three-times-a-day-like-clockwork drumbeating for your alma mater, but the sad truth is that posts on this particular board are so sparse that you're basically unavoidable.

At the risk of kicking my fellow Titan (and classmate), I think you're right about his contradiction.  I disagree with the CCIW coaches' 'rule' that the coach of the championship team is automatically the COY - I agree with seemingly the majority in the men's room that the Millikin coach deserves COY over Ron Rose.  But I'll also disagree with Mark about the COY for the women for the same reason - I think Mia deserves it all alone over Olivia, for so far exceeding expectations.  OTOH, Mia has won it several times while it would be Olivia's first, so I'd not be at all upset if Olivia Lett won it all by herself or if it was shared.  I DO think that 'automatically' giving the award to the coach of the champion totally diminishes the award.

I'm 100% with you on this, Chuck. If I had a vote for 2021-22 COY -- a thought which no doubt makes everybody on Brainard Street as well as every inhabitant of a CCIW head coach's office shudder -- I'd give it to Mia Smith, and Mia Smith alone.

Rog is easily the most impartial voice we have on this board, so I'm interested in hearing whom he'd pick.

[RogK]

I can't decide; either Doug Moe or Paul Westhead.

[Gregory Sager]

Straddling the fence as usual, I see ... even though we all know what a big Westhead guy you are.

[GoPerry]

Update policy at Wheaton.  No more restrictions.

https://athletics.wheaton.edu/news/2022/2/17/general-wheaton-athletics-updated-spectator-policy.aspx

So Rog, we'll see you there on Saturday for MU @ WC?  All are welcome of course.

[Gregory Sager]

Update policy at Wheaton.  No more restrictions.

... aside from the mask rule, of course. But, based upon the crowd shots I've seen from recent Wheaton home games, plus what I'm seeing throughout the conference and all throughout D3, I'm guessing that the mask rule is now being winked at in King Arena, anyway. At some point, disregard for a rule becomes so widespread that enforcement becomes impossible and the authorities just give up on it.

[GoPerry]

Update policy at Wheaton.  No more restrictions.

... aside from the mask rule, of course. But, based upon the crowd shots I've seen from recent Wheaton home games, plus what I'm seeing throughout the conference and all throughout D3, I'm guessing that the mask rule is now being winked at in King Arena, anyway. At some point, disregard for a rule becomes so widespread that enforcement becomes impossible and the authorities just give up on it.

All true - very little desire to enforce. 

Plus, it keeps IWU '70 away (but they decided against including that in the press release). . .

[Gregory Sager]

[RogK]

That MIL-WHE game is a possibility for me, GoPerry.