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Hoosier Titan

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 02, 2011, 06:26:29 PM
Just noticed that for at least the second year in a row, IWU has beaten ALL of the other ranked teams in the Central Region - way to go, ladies! ;D

Yes, that SOS is really important.  Good scheduling and good results :)
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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Hoosier Titan on February 02, 2011, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 02, 2011, 06:26:29 PM
Just noticed that for at least the second year in a row, IWU has beaten ALL of the other ranked teams in the Central Region - way to go, ladies! ;D

Yes, that SOS is really important.  Good scheduling and good results :)

Probably at least as important as SoS is they are an amazing 6-0 against regionally-ranked teams (another of the primary criteria).  (They would be 6-1, but the Great Lakes is so stacked this season that DePauw is not ranked!  They are 17-3 overall, but I suspect they may have fallen afoul of a one-year glitch: they got re-classified from South to GL [they've left the SCAC but don't join the NCAC until next season], but are still playing largely a SCAC schedule.  I haven't checked in detail, but they probably have very few in-region games.)

Hoosier Titan

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 02, 2011, 08:28:29 PM
Quote from: Hoosier Titan on February 02, 2011, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 02, 2011, 06:26:29 PM
Just noticed that for at least the second year in a row, IWU has beaten ALL of the other ranked teams in the Central Region - way to go, ladies! ;D

Yes, that SOS is really important.  Good scheduling and good results :)

Probably at least as important as SoS is they are an amazing 6-0 against regionally-ranked teams (another of the primary criteria).  (They would be 6-1, but the Great Lakes is so stacked this season that DePauw is not ranked!  They are 17-3 overall, but I suspect they may have fallen afoul of a one-year glitch: they got re-classified from South to GL [they've left the SCAC but don't join the NCAC until next season], but are still playing largely a SCAC schedule.  I haven't checked in detail, but they probably have very few in-region games.)

Whoa, hold on...IWU lost to UW-Whitewater back in November at Shirk.  Score was 74-60.  They have played all the ranked teams, and Whitewater is the only loss in that group.  They do, of course, play Millikin again at least once (maybe twice, including the CCIW tournament) more before the end of the CCIW season.
You'll never walk alone.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Hoosier Titan on February 02, 2011, 08:48:44 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 02, 2011, 08:28:29 PM
Quote from: Hoosier Titan on February 02, 2011, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 02, 2011, 06:26:29 PM
Just noticed that for at least the second year in a row, IWU has beaten ALL of the other ranked teams in the Central Region - way to go, ladies! ;D

Yes, that SOS is really important.  Good scheduling and good results :)

Probably at least as important as SoS is they are an amazing 6-0 against regionally-ranked teams (another of the primary criteria).  (They would be 6-1, but the Great Lakes is so stacked this season that DePauw is not ranked!  They are 17-3 overall, but I suspect they may have fallen afoul of a one-year glitch: they got re-classified from South to GL [they've left the SCAC but don't join the NCAC until next season], but are still playing largely a SCAC schedule.  I haven't checked in detail, but they probably have very few in-region games.)

Whoa, hold on...IWU lost to UW-Whitewater back in November at Shirk.  Score was 74-60.  They have played all the ranked teams, and Whitewater is the only loss in that group.  They do, of course, play Millikin again at least once (maybe twice, including the CCIW tournament) more before the end of the CCIW season.

OOPS! :-[  For once I would have been better off NOT checking!  I read the score backwards, whereas if I had trusted memory I probably would have recalled that that was the game which made for a 1-2 start on the season (and a plunge in the poll).

[As long as I'm on mea culpae (did I get that plural right? ;)), I also erred on the primary criterion.  Only in-region wins over regionally-ranked teams are primary; wins over regionally-ranked teams in other regions are a secondary criterion.  So with the corrections, IWU is 4-1 on the primary; 1-0 (1-1 if DePauw makes it into the rankings) on the secondary.]

Mr. Ypsi

I checked on DePauw and (if d3hoops.com has the in-region games listed correctly) they are actually 14-2 in-region, with good results against regionally-ranked teams (at least in other regions ;)).  The GL region is brutal this year - Hope is #4 in the d3hoops.com poll, and #FIVE in the GL region! :o

Pat Coleman

DePauw is still in the SCAC.
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[As long as I'm on mea culpae (did I get that plural right? ;)), I also erred on the primary criterion.  Only in-region wins over regionally-ranked teams are primary; wins over regionally-ranked teams in other regions are a secondary criterion.  So with the corrections, IWU is 4-1 on the primary; 1-0 (1-1 if DePauw makes it into the rankings) on the secondary.]
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Baruch is ranked in the Atlantic Region.  That makes IWU 2-0 against other region raked teams. 

Out_Of_My_Kitchen

Interesting that IWU is ranked ahead of Stevens Point.  Obviously Bernero and his staff of reps from the conferences in the central region felt that the head to head win was bigger than the records. 

It is funny to see how other regions rank teams.  An example is the West region where Coe is ranked ahead of Simpson even though they have very comparable records (Coe is 16-2 in region, 17-2 overall compared to Simpson at 15-2, 17-3) and Simpson holds the head to head win.  Obvouisly there is other criteria involved there also, but they seem to overlook head to head more than the Central region.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 02, 2011, 09:31:50 PM
[As long as I'm on mea culpae (did I get that plural right? ;))

"Mea culpa" is now considered to be a fully nativized English term, rather than simply a foreign-language borrowing. (It's taken from a Latin prayer of confession called the Confiteor ("I Confess") that was used in the Catholic church in the days before Vatican II.) And since it is now a bona-fide English term (just like "bona-fide"!), and it wasn't adopted as such by English speakers with an intact Latin plural attached to it (as was the case with "alumni" and "alumnae") "mea culpa" takes a standard English plural. It's "mea culpas", not "mea culpae".
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RogK

The plural of mouse is mice.
Why isn't the plural of house "hice" ?

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: RogK on February 03, 2011, 04:59:12 PM
The plural of mouse is mice.
Why isn't the plural of house "hice" ?

There ARE those who insist the plural of spouse is "spice". ;D

Despite Greg's reasonable (and probably correct) explanation, I'm sticking with mea culpae - I just like the sound of it!  And if I get a Prius to go with my wife's Prius, I will call them "Prii"!  (After all, the plural of radius is radii. 8-))

(I've got a couple of friends with the name Moses.  I told them that 'the Moseses' just sounded weird, so they are now "the Mosi" - they love it! ;D)

English is a weird enough language.  As long as you are understood, if you can't have fun with it, what's the point?! :D

RogK

Weird, indeed.
You'd think that bough, cough, dough and rough would rhyme.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: RogK on February 03, 2011, 05:30:23 PM
Weird, indeed.
You'd think that bough, cough, dough and rough would rhyme.

And through doesn't rhyme with any of them.

RogK

It don't? Not even in Ypsilanti?

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: RogK on February 03, 2011, 06:05:23 PM
It don't? Not even in Ypsilanti?

Hey, now, us speak good here in Ypsitucky. :P