WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[iwu70]

Congrats to Carthage and IWU for making the NCAA tourmament.  Let's make some noise now!

Seems Carthage got a pretty tough draw, with that "pod of death" with DePauw and Whitewater.  Two very tough nights, but I think Carthage can do it.  They played so well vs. IWU all season.  Wishing them good luck in making some noise at DePauw. 

IWU has a very interesting bracket, with some real unknowns there.  Seems like a pretty good "pod" to start off with, but we'll see.  Mount Union and Muhlenberg likely Wash U, pretty tough down the road.  But, one game at a time, keep winning, keep going.  Loose and go home.  KY. should be very nice in early Springtime.  Titans going behind the magnolia curtain for some women's roundball warfare.  Good luck Titans!!!

WIAC gets four teams in.  Would love to see the day when CCIW gets 3 teams in.  Overall, guess Amherst and perhaps George Fox have to be the favorites.  Sure bet George Fox was happy not to see IWU in their part of the bracket.  (GF will have to beat Amherst to get to the final). 

Would love to see the Titans play Carthage on March 10th, at a location to be determined.

IWU70

[HCACBBALL]

RogK, it is not out of the norm for coaching contracts to be only 10 or even 9 months.  That is still considered full time.  The typical months that are off are June and July. You are correct most of the recruiting/eval is done in July and many camps are done in June and July. So, even though the contract reads 10 months the coach is often still working during those months.

[scottiedoug]

Maryville plays pretty good defense but every team they actually played did score.

[RogK]

HCACBBALL, thanks for the explanation of the typical contract.
scottiedoug, I just found it unusual that Maryville won two games (1-0 score) by forfeit in one season. I can't recall a forfeit involving any CCIW team in the last 10 years.

[iwu70]

The "pod" in KY where IWU is playing looks like some real quality teams, too.  Programs with excellent records, and long traditions of success in their conferences, esp. Maryville and Thomas More.  No easy evenings here on out.  Carthage has the toughest pod, with Whitewater and DePauw.  Will be interesting to compare the quality of play, styles, and levels of DIII women's roundball in the different parts of the country.  Only 7-8 teams in the entire field with less than 20 wins on the season . . .and still four undefeated programs entering the dance. 

Good luck to both CCIW teams -- let's make some noise! 

I like IWU's chances in this bracket . . . and know Coach Smith and the Titans will be well-prepared, very ready to play on Friday.

GO TITANS!!! 

IWU70

[scottiedoug]

There are a couple of women's basketball teams in the GSAC that for various reasons did not have enough healthy players to field a team when it came to the Maryville game.  Maryville is joining the USA South conference next year and does not expect to win in that way next year. 

[Gregory Sager]

HCACBBALL, thanks for the explanation of the typical contract.
scottiedoug, I just found it unusual that Maryville won two games (1-0 score) by forfeit in one season. I can't recall a forfeit involving any CCIW team in the last 10 years.

A forfeit score in basketball is 2-0, Rog. That's true on every level, for both men and women.

NPU won a game by forfeit last year over on the men's side of things. Concordia (IL) used an ineligible player, and his ineligibility was only discovered a month or so after the game had already been played. The stats from the game counted for both teams, but it went into the books as a 2-0 win for NPU.

[RogK]

Point(s) well taken, Greg. I wrote 1-0 based on how Maryville's site has it:
http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/sport/womens-basketball/schedule/
Maybe they thought 1-0 was good enough and opted not to "run up the score" to 2-0.

[iwu70]

Both Maryville and Thomas More look like very strong teams, programs, with a great traditions of winning their conferences and tourneys.  Louisiana College looks a bit like a team that plays like ONU.  Should be some very interesting style contrasts this weekend in KY.

Hope the tornadoes have passed by that area by Friday.  Some very tough weather down that way now, and some horrible scenes from Harrisburg, IL. this a.m.  My heart goes out to that community, for the lives lost and all the terrible destruction to their town, community.

IWU70

[Mr. Ypsi]

Both Maryville and Thomas More look like very strong teams, programs, with a great traditions of winning their conferences and tourneys.  Louisiana College looks a bit like a team that plays like ONU.  Should be some very interesting style contrasts this weekend in KY.

Hope the tornadoes have passed by that area by Friday.  Some very tough weather down that way now, and some horrible scenes from Harrisburg, IL. this a.m.  My heart goes out to that community, for the lives lost and all the terrible destruction to their town, community.

IWU70

Mark, check your messages.

[Gregory Sager]

Point(s) well taken, Greg. I wrote 1-0 based on how Maryville's site has it:
http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/sport/womens-basketball/schedule/
Maybe they thought 1-0 was good enough and opted not to "run up the score" to 2-0.

LOL!

Perhaps Murvul's refusal to run up the score in those forfeits was a case of good ol' southern hospitality on the part of Coach Travillian, bless his heart.

[RogK]

iwu70, your mention of Olivet Naz and Louisiana College nudged me into this comparison:
LC scoring this season : 110s or higher - 0, 100s - 8 times, 90s - 5, 80s - 6, 70s - 4, 60s - 4, 50s - 1.
LC opponents : 90s or higher - 0, 80s - 3, 70s - 12, 60s - 5, 50s - 7, 40s - 1.
The scores in LC's three most recent games have been very conventional : 59-53, 76-54 and 73-64. Not sure if that constitutes a trend.
ONU scoring : 120s - 5, 110s - 8, 100s - 3, 90s - 9, 80s - 2, 70s -3.
ONU opponents : 120s - 1 (Olivia Lett and friends), 110s - 1, 100s - 1, 90s -5, 80s - 9, 70s - 7, 60s - 6.

[RogK]

Some Maryville stats:
their pcts - 2FG .469 (474/1010), 3FG .338 (131/388), FT .730 (265/363);
opponent - 2FG .373 (354/949), 3FG .296 (92/311), FT .654 (312/477).
Average rebounding : Maryville 38.8, opp 30.4.
Their shooting numbers are good; their defensive FG pct numbers are very
good. They and their opponents commit about 19 TOs per game.
The heights of their six most-played players : 5'7", 5'9", 5'9", 5'9", 5'10", 5'8". After those, 5'9", 6', 5'7".
After a 5-5 start, Maryville has gone 14-1.

[RogK]

A sim-yu-lar review of Wisconsin-Whitewater, Carthage's first opponent:
UWW - 2FG .459 (564/1229 in 28 g), 3FG .340 (145/426), FT .762 (423/555);
opponents - 2FG .397 (454/1143), 3FG .303 (115/380), FT .681 (399/586);
rebounding - UWW 36.3, opp 37.1
TOs committed - UWW 18.7, opp 24.3.
Heights of players in descending order of minutes played : 5'7", 6'1", 5'10", 5'5", 5'9", 5'11", 5'6", 5'6", 6'1".
UWW's shooting numbers look good, especially the 76 pct at the foul line.
They and their opponents take a somewhat above-average quantity of FTs, seems to me.
Defensively, UWW combines a fairly low 2FG pct allowed with a fairly high TOs caused. Not bad.
As with any look a full season averages for teams or individuals, certain things may have been done better early in the year, or not. A useful scouting report would include who's hot and who ain't. That detail takes a lot more effort than I wish to put forth!

[scottiedoug]

Maryville's players and coach say they are playing their best basketball of the year lately.  I do not know how that matches up with teams like the other ones in this pod.  I guess that is why they play the games!