WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

RogK · November 29, 2016, 06:15:23 PM

Had Millikin lost all five games, their OWP would be a lot better.

Gregory Sager · November 29, 2016, 07:25:29 PM

Nope. You don't count games played against the team in question when you calculate OWP.

RogK · November 29, 2016, 07:40:09 PM

Oh! Then it is a more useful measure than I had (erroneously) assumed. Thanks for the info, Greg.
On a similar topic, when Strengths of Schedule are calculated at the end of the regular season (the best time to do so), are the wins and losses involving the team in question excluded from that computation?

Gregory Sager · November 29, 2016, 07:49:16 PM

Yep.

RogK · November 30, 2016, 09:12:38 AM

Augustana prevailed over Coe last night in OT, 103-94. One stat that "jumps out" is that Augie committed only 10 turnovers in 45 fairly fast-paced minutes. Off to a 5-0 start, they have had nine different players score in double figures.

GoPerry · November 30, 2016, 10:58:48 AM

A stern test awaits the Thunder tonight at Univ of Chicago, a 4-0 Maroon team that's been blowing people out(except for their last game at Carthage). Chicago is similar to WC in that they are a veteran team returning most of their key players from last season. Both teams have decent size although I think Chicago will have a slight edge. They are rebounding at a higher clip (+6.0) than the Thunder so Devin Kyler, who is not yet a great rebounder despite her 6'2" size, will really have her hands full on the glass. I think the guards, like Kelly Lawson, will have to stay home a bit and help in that dept.

I think this will be a good gauge for the team as they head to CCIW play.

iwu70 · November 30, 2016, 09:38:46 PM

IWU over Rose-Hulman 66-38.. defensive pressure doing its dirt. Titans go to 3-3 on the new season.

McGraw 12, Merritt 10. Lots of Titans playing, running and jumping, running in and out. The usual.

If this team finds a way to shoot a better percentage, they could be very very good.

IWU70

GoPerry · November 30, 2016, 11:20:12 PM

Wheaton 76
Chicago 60

This one wasn't nearly as competitive as I thought it would be. Chicago looks to be a pretty decent team in my opinion. But Wheaton was as impressive as I've seen them. The combination of Katie McDaniels( 22 pts, 5rebs, 8 asst) and Kelly Lawson(18 pts, 9 rebs, 6 asst) is really tough to match. And then you have Kelly Thornton(16 pts) off the bench contributing 16 pts even with Chantal Meacham having an off shooting night. Devin Kyler had a solid game with 8 rebounds.

The Thunder are looking pretty solid heading into conference play. Hoping we stay injury free.

RogK · December 01, 2016, 10:23:58 AM

The other final from last night : UW Stevens Point 66, Carthage 50. Madie Kaelber led the Lady Reds with 15 pts. Carthage had only 6 FT att.
Nice wins for Mia Smith and Kent Madsen and their respective players.
iwu70, I was wondering why we hadn't heard from you in a while -- maybe you were laying in intensive care in Singapore or Durban. I guess you're OK after all.
GoPerry, both of the famous Meachams (Chantal and Jon) spell the name Meacham, not Meachem.

RogK · December 01, 2016, 02:46:49 PM

Conference play starts Saturday because Carroll rejoined the CCIW (and nobody left). With 9 teams, it takes 9 rounds of games to allow each team to play 8 games. The games of January 21 will complete the first half of conference play, each team having played 8 games.
During this first half, Augustana and Elmhurst will have five home games, while Illinois Wesleyan and Millikin have three. The other five teams host four games in each half of CCIW play. This irregularity may be due to certain teams' preferences for home games on Saturdays vs Wednesdays. I know not.
This post is merely informational, with no criticism intended for how the schedule was formed.

iwu70 · December 01, 2016, 03:34:48 PM

Hey Hey RogK, yes, the TITANS look to be a good edition, perhaps able to challenge WC for the Conference title. It will be close.

I was on the IWU campus for some months, summer and fall, but now in transit back to Hong Kong and my other home base there, The Chinese University of Hong Kong. Now in LA with my son, who works here in the renewable energy field. Lovely sun, warm with bright blue skies, about in the high 60s. A real nice break from the Central IL. wintry mix. Heading to Asia again next week, for Spring term teaching at CUHK. So I'll be watching my TITANS -- men and women -- in the morning whilst at work, via video streaming. Looks to be a very exciting season for IWU with two very strong, contending teams. The men are really off to a good start. The women just played their 500th game under the leadership of Mia Smith. With her at the helm and run and jump working pretty well early in the season, IWU fans can always be optimistic about a good season under Coach Smith. I think this team looks to be one contending for the CCIW crown, perhaps winning 17-19 games. Time will tell. (On the men's side, the team looks excellent, unselfish, with many good weapons and pieces in place early -- I'd say a 19-20 win season could happen. We'll see. Q's assessment of the team so far is one I subscribe to as well -- having seen the first 3 games in The Shirk, before I started moving west.).

I'll keep in touch with the season and the Board, but from afar again. No hospital visits yet -- but I have noticed that none of us are getting any younger, especially someone called IWU70.

Happy holidays to you, RogK, and to all the Board chatsters. Warm greetings from sunny, warm Lalaland.

IWU70

Gregory Sager · December 01, 2016, 04:38:04 PM

Quote from: RogK on December 01, 2016, 02:46:49 PM
Conference play starts Saturday because Carroll rejoined the CCIW (and nobody left). With 9 teams, it takes 9 rounds of games to allow each team to play 8 games. The games of January 21 will complete the first half of conference play, each team having played 8 games.
During this first half, Augustana and Elmhurst will have five home games, while Illinois Wesleyan and Millikin have three. The other five teams host four games in each half of CCIW play. This irregularity may be due to certain teams' preferences for home games on Saturdays vs Wednesdays. I know not.
This post is merely informational, with no criticism intended for how the schedule was formed.

You got it exactly right, except for the "certain teams' preferences" part. The schedule is spread out the way it is to ensure that everybody gets the same number of Saturday home dates -- and that's a league-based decision, not an attempt to cater to individual schools.

RogK · December 01, 2016, 05:05:58 PM

Thanks for clearing that up, Greg.
Incidentally, North Park will be the first team to complete 8 conf games (on Jan 18) and to reach 16 (on Feb 18); their bye dates are Jan 21 and Feb 21.

Gregory Sager · December 01, 2016, 05:26:06 PM

Yep. I'm not sure that the relative placement of bye dates is that big of a deal in basketball. It is a very big deal in football, due to the injury attrition inherent in the sport. It is in baseball as well to a lesser degree, because of pitcher workloads and availability.

GoPerry · December 01, 2016, 07:40:28 PM

Quote from: RogK on December 01, 2016, 10:23:58 AM
The other final from last night : UW Stevens Point 66, Carthage 50. Madie Kaelber led the Lady Reds with 15 pts. Carthage had only 6 FT att.
Nice wins for Mia Smith and Kent Madsen and their respective players.
iwu70, I was wondering why we hadn't heard from you in a while -- maybe you were laying in intensive care in Singapore or Durban. I guess you're OK after all.
GoPerry, both of the famous Meachams (Chantal and Jon) spell the name Meacham, not Meachem.

Ahh- my very very bad. Thanks for that gentle correction RogK. Corrected.