WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

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Wheaton played a great game and should be in a good position for an at large bid.
Maggie Dansdill played some great defense on the CCIW's MOP.
The Thunder will give any team fits if they keep playing tough defense.
Good luck to the Thunder going forward and play hard and with the confidence you earned.

lmitzel

Wheaton making it a nailbiter probably helps the Titans as well in terms of pushing them a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pod in Bloomington next weekend with a reasonable first round matchup, but probably a tough second one. Even so I also wouldn't be surprised to see the Titans make it to the following weekend. Hopefully Shanks/Hughes recover quickly.

Wheaton's in fantastic shape too. They'll probably be at the table fairly early and in shortly thereafter. I wouldn't be surprised to see them win at least one game either.

Hope both represent the CCIW well.
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iwumichigander

Quote from: lmitzel on February 24, 2018, 10:57:26 PM
Wheaton making it a nailbiter probably helps the Titans as well in terms of pushing them a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pod in Bloomington next weekend with a reasonable first round matchup, but probably a tough second one. Even so I also wouldn't be surprised to see the Titans make it to the following weekend. Hopefully Shanks/Hughes recover quickly.

Wheaton's in fantastic shape too. They'll probably be at the table fairly early and in shortly thereafter. I wouldn't be surprised to see them win at least one game either.

Hope both represent the CCIW well.
both in very good shape.  Titans will likely be competing with Whitewater and Chicago for host opportunity ?

lmitzel

Quote from: iwumichigander on February 24, 2018, 11:01:51 PM
Quote from: lmitzel on February 24, 2018, 10:57:26 PM
Wheaton making it a nailbiter probably helps the Titans as well in terms of pushing them a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pod in Bloomington next weekend with a reasonable first round matchup, but probably a tough second one. Even so I also wouldn't be surprised to see the Titans make it to the following weekend. Hopefully Shanks/Hughes recover quickly.

Wheaton's in fantastic shape too. They'll probably be at the table fairly early and in shortly thereafter. I wouldn't be surprised to see them win at least one game either.

Hope both represent the CCIW well.
both in very good shape.  Titans will likely be competing with Whitewater and Chicago for host opportunity ?

I'd assume at least two of the three will end up hosting. Wesleyan being ahead of Chicago in the Central bodes well for them, which probably has Whitewater as the other host of the bunch.

If you asked me to put together a potential pod for the Titans, maybe Webster out of the SLIAC, Rose-Hulman, and maybe Cornell from the Midwest? Possibly a Wisconsin team? There are options. Chicago might end up having to go to DePauw or Hope maybe. There's some flexibility with travel, but I feel like these are some educated guesses. We'll have to find out on Monday.
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GoPerry

Congrats to IWU for the win and the tourney title tonight.  Didn't get to see the game and just now checking the score.

Looks like it was another battle between 2 good teams, tight until the end.  This will be the type of game both teams can expect next week. 

Can't help but notice 21 turnovers for Wheaton and going scoreless for almost the last 3:30 minutes.  Stuck on 57 for a long time.

I still think Whitewater, IWU, and Chicago (96-90 winner over Wash U today) will host next weekend.  Those 3 have better overall resumes than any of the Great Lakes region teams as well as the West teams with the exception of UST. 

I'll be curious to see if the Tommies jump Wartburg in the West region and get to host.  Wartburg is undefeated at 27-0 but have played exactly 1 RRO to UST's 11.  I can see Wheaton getting sent to either of these places. 


iwu70

Looking forward to the tournament.  I hope IWU and WC make some noise for the CCIW --get to the second weekend or beyond.

Ehresman carried the Titans tonight big time.  Sure hope Shanks and Hughes get back. 

Anyone have info on their injuries and likelihood of return?   I know Shanks broke her hand.  Hughes with a knee injury of some sort.  Both in civies tonight at the Shirk.

Need them both back for the March run . . .

'70

Roundball999

Quote from: GoPerry on February 24, 2018, 11:59:32 PM
Those 3 have better overall resumes than any of the Great Lakes region teams as well as the West teams with the exception of UST. 


Not sure I'd agree with respect to Hope at least.  Better overall record with only 1 loss, to #6 Trine.  Two wins over Trine and also by 5 over Rose Hulman.  Chicago lost at home to RHC, IWU beat them by 1.

Other NCAA criteria for hosting includes geography, facilities, attendance history and revenue potential and a school's willingness to host. Hope has arguably the best facility in D3, has led D3 in attendance for at least the last 10 years and has a great history performing well as a host.  Honestly I'd be kind of shocked if Hope didn't host the first weekend and probably the second too if they can manage to make it through the first weekend.

titanalum94

Quote from: iwu70 on February 25, 2018, 02:10:29 AM
Looking forward to the tournament.  I hope IWU and WC make some noise for the CCIW --get to the second weekend or beyond.

Ehresman carried the Titans tonight big time.  Sure hope Shanks and Hughes get back. 

Anyone have info on their injuries and likelihood of return?   I know Shanks broke her hand.  Hughes with a knee injury of some sort.  Both in civies tonight at the Shirk.

Need them both back for the March run . . .

'70

Shanks broke her wrist in the Carroll game on 2/10. I'd imagine she won't be back for the Titans this season as the IWU website called it a season ending injury. Usually that is 6-8 weeks or more depending on how bad the break was and she was in a cast last night. No Hughes update from IWU or coach Smith though that I can find though.

GoPerry

Quote from: Roundball999 on February 25, 2018, 09:04:51 AM
Quote from: GoPerry on February 24, 2018, 11:59:32 PM
Those 3 have better overall resumes than any of the Great Lakes region teams as well as the West teams with the exception of UST. 


Not sure I'd agree with respect to Hope at least.  Better overall record with only 1 loss, to #6 Trine.  Two wins over Trine and also by 5 over Rose Hulman.  Chicago lost at home to RHC, IWU beat them by 1.

Other NCAA criteria for hosting includes geography, facilities, attendance history and revenue potential and a school's willingness to host. Hope has arguably the best facility in D3, has led D3 in attendance for at least the last 10 years and has a great history performing well as a host.  Honestly I'd be kind of shocked if Hope didn't host the first weekend and probably the second too if they can manage to make it through the first weekend.

Yes.  Of course Devos Fieldhouse among venues out there would be a perennial #1 seed facilitywise.  My comments had more to do with the ranking criteria.  They only have 1 loss but weaker SOS and only 4 games vRRO with 3 of those vs the same team - Trine.  That last fact is not a criteria however - just sayin'. 

In any case, you're probably right that Hope will host since they'll likely takeover #1 in the GL after DePauw was upset by 16-12 Wittenberg on Friday.   

Roundball999

Quote from: GoPerry on February 25, 2018, 03:50:47 PM
Quote from: Roundball999 on February 25, 2018, 09:04:51 AM
Quote from: GoPerry on February 24, 2018, 11:59:32 PM
Those 3 have better overall resumes than any of the Great Lakes region teams as well as the West teams with the exception of UST. 


Not sure I'd agree with respect to Hope at least.  Better overall record with only 1 loss, to #6 Trine.  Two wins over Trine and also by 5 over Rose Hulman.  Chicago lost at home to RHC, IWU beat them by 1.

Other NCAA criteria for hosting includes geography, facilities, attendance history and revenue potential and a school's willingness to host. Hope has arguably the best facility in D3, has led D3 in attendance for at least the last 10 years and has a great history performing well as a host.  Honestly I'd be kind of shocked if Hope didn't host the first weekend and probably the second too if they can manage to make it through the first weekend.

Yes.  Of course Devos Fieldhouse among venues out there would be a perennial #1 seed facilitywise.  My comments had more to do with the ranking criteria.  They only have 1 loss but weaker SOS and only 4 games vRRO with 3 of those vs the same team - Trine.  That last fact is not a criteria however - just sayin'. 

In any case, you're probably right that Hope will host since they'll likely takeover #1 in the GL after DePauw was upset by 16-12 Wittenberg on Friday.   

Sounds like you think those three games vs Trine are a negative; I look at it completely the opposite way.  Trine is a seriously tough team and taking 2 of 3 is a major accomplishment.  For example Trine gave Amherst as tough a game as anyone this year, including Tufts, going into the 4th tied and losing by 5.  I wouldn't want to run into them anytime early in the tournament, that's for sure.  Also, in those 4 games vRRO Hope has a better winning percentage I believe.

But it will all shake out.  I don't believe there's much difference at all separating the top 12-15 teams.  I'm happy to all the girls and teams that will get to play at least one more game!

iwu70

Thanks for the update on the Titans injury lists.  Yes, I assumed that Shanks might be out for the season.  Hope Hughes is able to recover, get back, not needing any surgery on the knee.  We'll see in the coming 1-2 weekends.

I hope the Titans get to host one or two weekends at The Shirk, too.

Good luck to the Titans and to Wheaton in the tournament.  Make some noise for the CCIW.

'70

lmitzel

So I'm the mock yesterday, Wheaton was the 16th team off the board for Pool C. I'm by a fairly safe margin but not as early as I thought (though admittedly, my grasp on the national picture for the women isn't great).
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GoPerry

Quote from: lmitzel on February 26, 2018, 07:47:11 AM
So I'm the mock yesterday, Wheaton was the 16th team off the board for Pool C. I'm by a fairly safe margin but not as early as I thought (though admittedly, my grasp on the national picture for the women isn't great).

Yes.  That surprised me a little bit too.  However, with 2 wins not counting, WC has only a .800 WP (huge in the men's side, sort of average on the women's) and a pretty weak vRRO record @ 1-4.  Following the logic of who got picked before them, it mostly makes sense.  They choose Juniata pretty high as the 6th team in with credentials similar to Wheaton except for that vRRO.

In the end, we're happy as long as they get in and it looks to me like they will.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Roundball999 on February 25, 2018, 09:04:51 AM
Quote from: GoPerry on February 24, 2018, 11:59:32 PM
Those 3 have better overall resumes than any of the Great Lakes region teams as well as the West teams with the exception of UST. 


Not sure I'd agree with respect to Hope at least.  Better overall record with only 1 loss, to #6 Trine.  Two wins over Trine and also by 5 over Rose Hulman.  Chicago lost at home to RHC

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lmitzel

Quote from: GoPerry on February 26, 2018, 08:37:01 AM
Quote from: lmitzel on February 26, 2018, 07:47:11 AM
So I'm the mock yesterday, Wheaton was the 16th team off the board for Pool C. I'm by a fairly safe margin but not as early as I thought (though admittedly, my grasp on the national picture for the women isn't great).

Yes.  That surprised me a little bit too.  However, with 2 wins not counting, WC has only a .800 WP (huge in the men's side, sort of average on the women's) and a pretty weak vRRO record @ 1-4.  Following the logic of who got picked before them, it mostly makes sense.  They choose Juniata pretty high as the 6th team in with credentials similar to Wheaton except for that vRRO.

In the end, we're happy as long as they get in and it looks to me like they will.

While I'm thinking of it too, they did give IWU hosting rights for the first weekend with a Round 1 matchup against Oberlin with DePauw and Wisconsin Lutheran playing in the other first round game at the Shirk. Wheaton is projected to head to Whitewater and take on St. Benedict, with UW-Superior playing the Warhawks in Round 1.
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