WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[lmitzel]

I haven't seen a Grinnell men's game in 15 years or more. I did see the Greenville men three years ago when they played at North Park; 266 total pts scored in that one.

Sigh. Don't remind me. I came down from my broadcaster's perch and served as the scorekeeper for that game, because North Park SID Tyler Woolbright wanted to maximize his experienced table personnel for the expected difficulties that a scorer's table encounters when working a System game. It was ridiculous. I ran out of space in my book in several different categories, including the most important one: running score. As a crew we spent the entire game ping-ponging questions like, "Who took that shot?" "Who made that basket?" "Did anybody see who got that steal?" "Can you call out the numbers of the players who just came in?" back and forth between us at the table.

The guys who regularly work the table at Grinnell and Greenville don't get paid nearly as much as they deserve. I'm certain of it.

Is this an advocation for back pay for five years of System ball when the NCC women ran it, because I can get behind that. Sucked though when we got to the point of only one non-conference home game a year though, so maybe it's a moot point.

With all due respect to you guys in the hangar, the pace of the game makes working the table for a men's System game several degrees of difficulty tougher than it is for a women's System game. But I don't discount the trouble that the NCC table must've had during the System era. I remember the first time that Michelle Roof brought a System Cardinals team to the crackerbox. The game ended up 102-101 in regulation, and it took two hours to play despite the lack of overtimes. (Fortunately, it was a Saturday afternoon game.) There were 63 fouls called and 77 free throws attempted. I had already moved up from the table to the broadcaster's perch by then, but I recall our StatCrew operator mentioning afterwards how hard it would've been to keep tabs on all of NCC's substitutions if the refs hadn't constantly blown their whistles to stop play and call fouls.

Having done a game against Greenville, yeah, it was definitely different. But I definitely feel the two hour-plus game pain. I feel like every night of league play we were always the last game to finish.

I'm guessing your stat crew guy never got the cheat sheet we did; Michelle and her staff always gave Drew Sauer a list of all the scripted substitutions for ease of swapping. I never really needed it; after a first year of gutting out announcing literally everyone, at Michelle's suggestion/blessing, I started only announcing everyone for the first two mass subs, then broke out my "wholesale line change" call for the rest of the night.

(My favorite of those was in one game where the full swap was slow to get off the bench and I only saw two Cardinals at the table, which threw me, so I started introducing them, and as I finish the second name I see the rest of the subs come running up, at which point I gave up and just said, "eh, it's a wholesale line change for the Cardinals.")

[iwu70]

Yes, I think Ypsi is dreaming a bit on Eck scoring 40.  I'd be pleased to see consistent games by her over 20.  If I was counting on anyone on the current roster to go off with a 30+ game it might be Lansford. . .  but, we'll see.  The Titans are going to have to spread the offensive load around, perhaps even rely on some good contributions from freshmen.  Seems this team will play up tempo, relying heavily on defense and win games that are in the 50s or low 60s, a very different kind of game from recent years with Sosa-Brovelli-Munroe scoring and offense . . . etc.  I'd bet "run and jump" returns more this year. . .

IWU'70

[RogK]

Some stats for you to consider, iwu70 :
                 IWU team scoring          Sosa scoring
2017-18             83.9                          6.0
2018-19             75.2                          9.2
2019-20             74.4                         21.3
2020-21             68.6                         26.7
Also, if you expect the Titans to play "up tempo" this season, doesn't that mean an increase in possessions, therefore probably more scoring? I'd say if they don't play up tempo, they'll score in the 55-65 range a lot.

[Gregory Sager]

I'm guessing your stat crew guy never got the cheat sheet we did; Michelle and her staff always gave Drew Sauer a list of all the scripted substitutions for ease of swapping.

That was the year that Michelle instituted the System at NCC, so perhaps she wasn't doing the cheat sheet yet.

[Gregory Sager]

NPU opens its season this evening (at the rather odd hour of 6 pm) by playing host to St. Kate's. Not having seen any scrimmages -- I'm not even sure if North Park played any -- this is one of those seasons where I'm not sure what to expect from the Vikings. There are some new players that I'm pretty intrigued about seeing for the first time, especially Savanna Childress. Mostly, though, I'm just worried about getting the feel for calling basketball again after three months of football, soccer, and volleyball, although those apprehensions tend to disappear after a couple of minutes of game play.

[Jester1390]

i was rooting for St. Catherine against North park tonight as I have a player i coached Bree Glynn pays for them. Bree has been great in college but tonight North Parks defense was able to control her and hats off to them,  i have 2 more Minnesota players i coached to play against north park.  Next will be my kid she better play well or I might not be able to come on this board.   Then our last player Grace Sikkink with Bethany who i got to help with her coach Tray Pollard   will get a shot.

[Gregory Sager]

North Park 68
St. Catherine 56

Esther Miller: 18 pts, 14 rebs
Jayla Johnson: 17 pts, 3 stls
Emily Czuhajewski: 11 pts
Lauren McKnight: 6 rebs
Chantel Hairston: 4:1 a:to

It was very ragged early November basketball, definitely not a game that anybody would want to paste into a scrapbook. But the Vikings nevertheless dispatched St. Kate's with a minimum of fuss. It was mostly a matter of defense, and it was good to see that even with Zakiya Newsome and Sinead Molloy gone, NPU can still ballhawk like nobody's business.

Esther Miller, who had career highs in points and rebounds, was a real revelation. She showed both a confidence and a level of execution that I've never seen from her before at the offensive end of the floor. I hope it's a precursor of great things to come. The other revelation was Chantel Hairston. She's still a work in progress, but I saw enough to be convinced that she can handle the point guard position and do well.

NPU still has a lot of room for growth, but the Vikings got off on the right foot tonight.

[RogK]

Dayzul cudjestchid kept me from attending North Park's contest tonight, so I enjoyed Greg's customarily fine webcast.
My only criticism is that when he read the ad for Jersey Mike's, he said to ask for the North Park discount, but did not address whether there is one. (ha ha)
Jester1390, did you approve of Greg's broadcast of the game?

[RogK]

Millikin topped Westminster 83-63.
http://stats.ncaa.org/contests/2124863/box_score
Elyce Knudsen scored 27 from 15 FG att and 2 FT att. Pretty good, eh?

[iwu70]

Rog, K, thanks for the stats in the Sosa era.  Just be reminded that the '17-18 team obviously had many more talented offensive players than Ms. Sosa . . . and that during her senior year, the Titans relied quite heavily, perhaps too heavily on her scoring prowess.  The trouble I see with the current Titans is that they really don't have many players that one could consider as players with offensive prowess . . . maybe I'll be proved wrong, though my assessment is that the Titans this year will win, as much as they do, with defense, and that scoring will be even lower than the last season of 68 or so / game.  Perhaps Eck or Lansford will step up and surprise me . . . or the new freshman treyballer will come into her own early.  I know not, until I see some games of this new edition. . . I stand by the view that this will be a re-building year, difficult for the Titans to compete against WC, NPU or MU.  And, they still play a pretty tough schedule early on . . .  I hope I'm proved wrong and these Titans surprise me . . .

All best,

IWU'70

[Jester1390]

i Have watched 5 games so far but havent checked stats but on surface moving the 3 pt line back is affecting percentages

[RogK]

Carthage edged Lawrence 74-71 thanks to clutch late-game shooting by Emma Thistle, who scored 12 of her 14 pts in the final 2:36. Lauren Knight (who could guard Lauren McKnight of NPU this season) led the Firebirds with 21 pts.
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Carroll thumped Milwaukee School Of Engineering 70-36, with Allison Thompson hitting 8/9 2FGs on her way to 17 pts, 9 rebs and 3 steals.
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Loras dominated the 3rd Q 34-7 and rolled past Elmhurst 91-62.
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Millikin didn't need any of their 42 2nd half points as they defeated Greenville by 43, 100-57.
Bailey Coffman and Elyce Knudsen each shot superbly : Coffman tallied 26 pts via 11 FG att and 6 FT att, while Knudsen scored 24 from 13 FG att and 3 FT att.

[RogK]

Elyce Knudsen scored 51 pts in 48:00 in Millikin's opening pair of games.
She also had 16 rebs, 9 assists, 2 TOs, 4 steals and a block.
She made 5/5 FTs, 8/11 3FGs and 11/17 2FGs.
For those of you who like overall FG%, it's 19/28 for .679.
For those enlightened ones who like eFG% (such as me!) it's .821 (23/28).
No CCIW Player of the Week was given yet, likely because while Millikin played twice, the rest of the league scheduled 0 or 1 game for the past weekend.

[lmitzel]

NCC is in the books to open the season with a 58-47 win over St. Mary's. Wasn't the prettiest outing, but NCC looked great defensively out of the gate. And thankfully the offensive drought happened in the first half, rather than the second.

14-7-6 for Allison Pearson, 10 and 11 for IxChel Leeuwenburgh, and 11 and 9 for Mitrese Smith. Ellie Deardorff paced the Belles with 19 points.

So great to be yelling in a full building again.

[GoPerry]

Wheaton 60
Ben U 53

It was most certainly a first-game-of-the-season type of performance for the Wheaton ladies.  Still, a win is a win and the Thunder will take it and work on smoothing out the rough edges.  Pre-season All American Annie Tate led all scorers with 24 pts, 13 rebs for Wheaton.  The visitors got very good contributions from two notable transfers:  5'10" jr forward Caylee Hermanson (Cal St – Chico) had 9 pts, 6 rebs while 5'10" soph guard Caroline Sikkink (Gordon) added 12 pts, 6 rebs.  These two will see plenty of playing time and add skill and size.

Ben U was led by Alex Fanning, 16 pts, 15 rebs.