WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

Mr. Ypsi · February 25, 2007, 04:36:26 PM

Good news, bad news:

Just checked d3hoops.com's projections: IWU is safely in (no where near the bottom of projected Cs). The bad news? They project them playing their first game at defending national champion Hope!

Hoosier Titan · February 25, 2007, 05:21:27 PM

Ypsi,

I saw that, and I see where you get the projected matchup with Hope. But why would IWU be seeded above Wheaton?

Mr. Ypsi · February 25, 2007, 05:26:30 PM

Quote from: Hoosier Titan on February 25, 2007, 05:21:27 PM
Ypsi,

I saw that, and I see where you get the projected matchup with Hope. But why would IWU be seeded above Wheaton?

Despite Wheaton's late-season hot streak and IWU's slump since Mallory got hurt, IWU is still ahead of Wheaton in both QOWI and regional winning %.

Fawkes316 · February 25, 2007, 05:44:03 PM

Yet they have lost to them twice in a row.

Ypsi- Thanks for updating the list for me. It was a rush job, and I cut out Lake Forest, but didn't get the others.

Mr. Ypsi · February 25, 2007, 07:20:33 PM

Quote from: skafkas on February 25, 2007, 05:44:03 PM
Yet they have lost to them twice in a row.

Ypsi- Thanks for updating the list for me. It was a rush job, and I cut out Lake Forest, but didn't get the others.

I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see Wheaton pass IWU in the next poll, but that is not how the selection criteria work - results in December are just as meaningful as results in the last six games.

Thanks for the thanks, but that was actually Ralph who caught those AQ teams - I just brought the corrections over to this board.

Here's hoping d3hoop's is right on the C bid (I'm quite confident they are), but wrong on the first round opponent! I'd like a fully healthy Mallory Heydorn before we take on a team that tough! Would anyone who saw the title game want to speculate on whether her presence would have tipped the balance? (It's all for the better - if IWU had won, Wheaton's chances of a C were essentially nil.)

Hoosier Titan · February 25, 2007, 09:11:57 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 25, 2007, 07:20:33 PM
Here's hoping d3hoop's is right on the C bid (I'm quite confident they are), but wrong on the first round opponent! I'd like a fully healthy Mallory Heydorn before we take on a team that tough! Would anyone who saw the title game want to speculate on whether her presence would have tipped the balance? (It's all for the better - if IWU had won, Wheaton's chances of a C were essentially nil.)

Thanks for answering my question earlier. I have never really tried to read the tea leaves before, and it is very confusing!

With regard to your question...of course, it's impossible to say with certainty that IWU would have won with Heydorn in the lineup. I'd be more inclined to speculate that the loss at North Central might not have happened. The other Titans did a good job of covering the point in both tournament games; Tasha Gaston-Bell was the primary point, with others spelling her for rests. But the loss of a team's leader, captain, and leading scorer has to make a difference of at least a few points, and the championship game was down to a four-point margin with four minutes to go. So I think the Titans would have had a much better chance with Heydorn playing. That said, all credit to Wheaton for executing down the stretch.

Fawkes316 · February 25, 2007, 10:28:54 PM

IWU is in. Good to see two teams coming from the CCIW. Too bad for Elmhurst on the men's side. Now we just have to wait for the seeding.

RogK · February 26, 2007, 01:16:31 PM

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Hoosier Titan · February 26, 2007, 02:10:55 PM

Quote from: RogK on February 26, 2007, 01:16:31 PM
Circumstantial evidence suggests that Beth Baker used telepathy Saturday to instruct IWU to stop passing the ball to Sarah Bull (who was hot from the arc and was wide open for a three several times in transition) and instead take it inside and try to get Jill Trenz in foul trouble. All Trenz did was pick up 3 steals and 6 blocks.

That wasn't all Trenz did, Reg--she picked up 4 fouls. Sarah Bull passing up open threes is never a good thing for IWU, however, especially against a taller team.

Hoosier Titan · February 27, 2007, 08:58:09 AM

The IWU--Carroll game on Friday will be broadcast over the Internet at

http://www.wjbc2.com/

The site has a note that NCAA tournament games will not be archived, so listening live is the only way to hear it. The broadcast begins at 5:55 CST.

RogK · February 27, 2007, 09:37:07 AM

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Fawkes316 · February 27, 2007, 06:06:27 PM

Quote from: Hoosier Titan on February 26, 2007, 02:10:55 PM
Quote from: RogK on February 26, 2007, 01:16:31 PM
Circumstantial evidence suggests that Beth Baker used telepathy Saturday to instruct IWU to stop passing the ball to Sarah Bull (who was hot from the arc and was wide open for a three several times in transition) and instead take it inside and try to get Jill Trenz in foul trouble. All Trenz did was pick up 3 steals and 6 blocks.

That wasn't all Trenz did, Reg--she picked up 4 fouls. Sarah Bull passing up open threes is never a good thing for IWU, however, especially against a taller team.

And, 11 points, 9 rebounds and 6 assists.

By the way, despite having 289 career blocks, she has only fouled out 9 times in three seasons.

Titan Q · February 27, 2007, 07:07:59 PM

Mallory Heydorn will give it a go this weekend...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/02/27/sports/123871.txt

Hoosier Titan · February 27, 2007, 07:10:50 PM

I don't think I ever implied that Trenz didn't block the shots--she had a fine game. I remember some other Wheaton blocked shots as well. As I said at the time, Wheaton deserved the win.

How about moving on to the NCAA tournament? How does Wheaton's bracket look?

blazerball · February 27, 2007, 10:37:35 PM

I'm a CSB fan visiting over here and thought I would say hello to the Wheaton fans since we will be facing off on Friday. I don't know much about your squad other than what I can see from the Web site.

I know Simpson pretty well because CSB has played them in the NCAA tourney each of the last two years. I saw Stout in the tourney last year and they have a monster in the middle in Duoss. Both Stout and Simpson like to run...a lot...so it should be a track meet between those two teams. Can anyone tell me anything about Wheaton and what to expect from them? Looking forward to the dance on Friday night!