Pool C -- 2011

[Ralph Turner]

My best thought on Endicott to get a Pool C bid would be to run the table (i.e., beat MIT), have the loss to WNEC and not make the NEFC Championship Game.

The loser of the NEFC Championship game will have at least 2 in-region losses.

[MonroviaCat]

Lewis and Clark won a big one for the NWC.  (If L&C beats Willamette next week, how about a Lewis & Clark at Cal Lu and Redlands at Linfield west coast bracket?)

As unjust as it might seem, it could just as easily be L&C v. Linfield and Redlands v. Cal Lu to save a flight.

Oooh--you mean Linfield would get to beat Lewis and Clark two weeks in a row?  I like that idea

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Thanks FCGG. Can you add the in-region record to the list?

I just added them. I think I have them all right, but you never know.
That 4-1 for Wesley really sticks out

[Ralph Turner]

Conf        Team                       Record (conf) Region    Conf Deciding Games   Comments
ASC:  Louisiana College   7-1 (5-1) 6-1    (none) Loss to UMHB; hosts McMurry and at HSU (tough games; HSU is getting better each week)
CCIW: Illinois Wesleyan   7-1 (4-1) 7-1    (none)  Loss to North Central
      Wheaton             7-1 (4-1) 7-1    (@ North Central)  Loss to IWU
HCAC: Franklin            7-1 (6-0) 6-0    (at Hanover)   Non-region loss to UWW
MAC:* Delaware Valley     8-0 (6-0) 8-0    (@ Lycoming, vs Widener)
      Widener             8-1 (6-1) 8-1    (@ Del Val)  Loss to Wilkes
      Lycoming            7-1 (5-1) 7-1    (vs Del Val)  Loss to Widener
MIAA: Adrian              7-1 (3-1) 6-1    (none)  Loss to Albion
MIAC: St Olaf             7-1 (5-1) 7-1    (none)   Loss to St Thomas
MWC:  Illinois College    8-1 (7-1) 8-1    (none)  Loss to Monmouth
NCAC: Wabash              8-0 (5-0) 7-0    (vs Wittenberg)
NEFC: Endicott            8-1 (6-1) 8-1    (none)   Loss to WNEC
NWC:* Linfield            7-0 (4-0) 6-0    (vs Lewis & Clark)
      Lewis & Clark       7-0 (4-0) 7-0    (@ Linfield)
OAC:  Mount Union         8-0 (7-0) 7-0    (vs Baldwin-Wallace)
SCAC:*Trinity (TX)        8-0 (4-0) 8-0    (vs Centre)
      Centre              7-0 (4-0) 7-0    (@Trinity)
SCIAC Redlands            6-1 (4-1) 6-1    (none)  Loss to CalLu

Pool B *
      Wesley              7-1       4-1                Loss to Kean
      Case Western Reserve 7-1      7-0                Non-region loss to Rochester

CC:   None
E8:   None
ECFC: None
IIAC: None
LL:   None
NAthC None
NJAC: None
ODAC: None
PAC:  None
UMAC: None
USAC: None
WIAC: None

Corrections appreciated.

Thanks to altor for the correction on the HCAC.

[wesleydad]

thanks for putting this together fcgg.  wesley's 4 - 1 looks bad versus case's 7 - 0, but i still think wesley gets the pool b bid if they win out based on the secondary criteria of previous performance.  making the semis 4 of the last 6 years should help, plus they will have wins against regionally ranked teams, salisbury and huntingdon, if they end up regionally ranked.  i dont think case has any.  too bad the wins against non d3 schools dont count for anything.  if they dont get the pool b i think they could get a pool c, but that would be tougher.

[ncc_fan]

The criteria include previous playoff performance only when comparing undefeated teams.

[smedindy]

Wesley's going to have a higher RR than Case. Case as a "C" means a potential 9-0 regional record. Would the committee exclude them even with that record?

[Ralph Turner]

Wesley's going to have a higher RR than Case. Case as a "C" means a potential 9-0 regional record. Would the committee exclude them even with that record?

It is hard to leave an undefeated team out!

The Rochester loss makes the 9-0 less pure.

[altor]

(F) HCAC – Impossible for runner-up 1-loss team

While technically true, if Hanover wins out to win the HCAC, Franklin will have a 7-1 in-region record with an out of region win over I-FCS Valparaiso and loss to UWW.

[smedindy]

Wesley's going to have a higher RR than Case. Case as a "C" means a potential 9-0 regional record. Would the committee exclude them even with that record?

It is hard to leave an undefeated team out!

The Rochester loss makes the 9-0 less pure.

That will be a puzzler if it comes to it. It'll show how much the committee truly cares about the regional records.

[Ron Boerger]

Wesley's going to have a higher RR than Case. Case as a "C" means a potential 9-0 regional record. Would the committee exclude them even with that record?

It is hard to leave an undefeated team out!

The Rochester loss makes the 9-0 less pure.

That will be a puzzler if it comes to it. It'll show how much the committee truly cares about the regional records.

Have to see where they stand in the first regional rankings out this week.  That''ll give us a clue. 

[Bill McCabe]

When do the first regional rankings come out?

[Pat Coleman]

They are typically released on Wednesday, late afternoon ET.

[jknezek]

Looks like the first regional rankings are up. They can be found here:

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/category/regional-rankings/

[smedindy]

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2011/11/02/first-ncaa-regional-rankings/

Well, now...

My biggest shocker is CWRU breaking up the CCIW trio, and at #5 in the North are poised to take a "C" if they go unscathed through the UAA season (and Wesley doesn't lose to Huntingdon).

How far down do either Salisbury or SJF fall after this weekend when one will take loss #2? Will they fall far enough not to be on the board?

Whoever loses between Trinity and Centre could be in trouble for a "C". They weren't as highly ranked as I thought they would be.

Redlands isn't in good shape either with that ranking, I feel.