FB: Southern Athletic Association

Started by Ron Boerger, October 25, 2011, 02:57:49 PM

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jekelish

BSC pulls away down the stretch to win 52-42. Reminded me a lot of the AC/Trinity game, where the Tigers managed to make a tight game into a double figure one late. Entertaining game with some huge offensive performances. Colt Collins broke AC's record for career passing yards in the game, his second career record of the year.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: jekelish on November 02, 2019, 05:23:16 PM
BSC pulls away down the stretch to win 52-42. Reminded me a lot of the AC/Trinity game, where the Tigers managed to make a tight game into a double figure one late. Entertaining game with some huge offensive performances. Colt Collins broke AC's record for career passing yards in the game, his second career record of the year.

Looks like AC is on the upswing - they've played with a lot of heart this year.  Glad to see it!

Trinity gets past Hendrix 20-17 thanks to three interceptions and a missed 29-yard FG by the Warriors midway through the fourth.   With 2:24 remaining, Hendrix took a 17-14 lead one play after a 46-yard completion from Miles Thompson to Blake Hinton left the ball on the Trinity 1.  Trinity drove to the Hendrix 42 on the ensuing series, and on third and 12 Wyatt Messex found Austin Bertness who took it to the house and scored with 36 seconds remaining (the PAT was missed).  Caleb Harmel's interception at midfield three plays later sealed the win for the visitors.

Ron Boerger

On another note - I was looking at Millsaps' record here on the site and was shocked to see their enrollment listed at 749 (was around 1200 in the '90s).   It appears that they are dealing with the issue of declining enrollment faced by many smaller liberal arts schools.   According to this Clarion-Ledger story from last May, three majors have been cut (music, religion, education) in order to bring expenses in-line with the number of students.   They're trying to get back to around 1000 students, have some financial resources and construction in progress to make needed improvements.

B-SC went through something similar around the time they joined the SCAC, dropping several programs, and were successful.  In a bid to further increase enrollment from the current ~1300 students to ~1600, they cut their tuition and fees in half in 2018, though enrollment has yet to show significant growth (yes, I know it's not the list price that matters but the net price, but not all prospective students or parents make that distinction at first). 

I wish both Millsaps and B-SC (and other schools dealing with the issue) success in finding models that work for students and the schools themselves.   It's not easy.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 03, 2019, 09:00:07 AM
On another note - I was looking at Millsaps' record here on the site and was shocked to see their enrollment listed at 749 (was around 1200 in the '90s).   It appears that they are dealing with the issue of declining enrollment faced by many smaller liberal arts schools.   According to this Clarion-Ledger story from last May, three majors have been cut (music, religion, education) in order to bring expenses in-line with the number of students.   They're trying to get back to around 1000 students, have some financial resources and construction in progress to make needed improvements.

B-SC went through something similar around the time they joined the SCAC, dropping several programs, and were successful.  In a bid to further increase enrollment from the current ~1300 students to ~1600, they cut their tuition and fees in half in 2018, though enrollment has yet to show significant growth (yes, I know it's not the list price that matters but the net price, but not all prospective students or parents make that distinction at first). 

I wish both Millsaps and B-SC (and other schools dealing with the issue) success in finding models that work for students and the schools themselves.   It's not easy.
Millsaps was founded in 1890 by the Methodist Episcopal Church, South. For the school to discontinue majors in religion, education and music is to lose a major portion of its heritage.

Ron Boerger

Berry is #6 in the first regional rankings.   B-SC is also ranked (#8) so the loss to a RRO helps them (more than a loss to a non-RRO):   https://d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-regional-ranking

wally_wabash

Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 06, 2019, 12:53:50 PM
Berry is #6 in the first regional rankings.   B-SC is also ranked (#8) so the loss to a RRO helps them (more than a loss to a non-RRO):   https://d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-regional-ranking

I thought that was curious placement.  IMO, once you put B-SC into the top 10, you have to put them in front of Berry.  Outside of about a 6 minute stretch of football immediately after halftime, B-SC absolutely handled Berry. 

Savvy move here by a committee that historically plays chess with their rankings while other RACs are playing checkers.  #6 or #5 ranked Berry as an at-large candidate looks better than #8 or #9 ranked Berry as an at-large candidate (which is where I had them slotted in my committee-of-one rankings this week). 
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 06, 2019, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 06, 2019, 12:53:50 PM
Berry is #6 in the first regional rankings.   B-SC is also ranked (#8) so the loss to a RRO helps them (more than a loss to a non-RRO):   https://d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-regional-ranking

I thought that was curious placement.  IMO, once you put B-SC into the top 10, you have to put them in front of Berry.  Outside of about a 6 minute stretch of football immediately after halftime, B-SC absolutely handled Berry. 

Savvy move here by a committee that historically plays chess with their rankings while other RACs are playing checkers.  #6 or #5 ranked Berry as an at-large candidate looks better than #8 or #9 ranked Berry as an at-large candidate (which is where I had them slotted in my committee-of-one rankings this week).
+1! Wally.

I think that Trinity beats B-SC this weekend to get a SAA co-championship and it becomes moot.

BerryCollegeFan

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 06, 2019, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 06, 2019, 12:53:50 PM
Berry is #6 in the first regional rankings.   B-SC is also ranked (#8) so the loss to a RRO helps them (more than a loss to a non-RRO):   https://d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-regional-ranking

I thought that was curious placement.  IMO, once you put B-SC into the top 10, you have to put them in front of Berry.  Outside of about a 6 minute stretch of football immediately after halftime, B-SC absolutely handled Berry. 

Savvy move here by a committee that historically plays chess with their rankings while other RACs are playing checkers.  #6 or #5 ranked Berry as an at-large candidate looks better than #8 or #9 ranked Berry as an at-large candidate (which is where I had them slotted in my committee-of-one rankings this week).

What I saw in the rankings -> Unless Susquehanna loses SAA is not getting an at large bid this year.

So it doesn't really matter where either Berry or BSC are ranked.  BSC's loss to LaGrange is what's keeping them lower, that was a truly bad loss.

MRMIKESMITH

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2019, 02:11:16 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 06, 2019, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 06, 2019, 12:53:50 PM
Berry is #6 in the first regional rankings.   B-SC is also ranked (#8) so the loss to a RRO helps them (more than a loss to a non-RRO):   https://d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-regional-ranking

I thought that was curious placement.  IMO, once you put B-SC into the top 10, you have to put them in front of Berry.  Outside of about a 6 minute stretch of football immediately after halftime, B-SC absolutely handled Berry. 

Savvy move here by a committee that historically plays chess with their rankings while other RACs are playing checkers.  #6 or #5 ranked Berry as an at-large candidate looks better than #8 or #9 ranked Berry as an at-large candidate (which is where I had them slotted in my committee-of-one rankings this week).
+1! Wally.

I think that Trinity beats B-SC this weekend to get a SAA co-championship and it becomes moot.

Now if Trinity beats B-SC and Berry slips up at Centre, that helps with Travel as Trinity would open a flight to balance bracket elsewhere.

Cedricb313

Week 10 #SAA FB Predictions:
BER 33 CEN 17, HEN 27 MIL 16, RHO 13 ACU 31 & BSC 24 TRIN 28.
Anyone see BSC beating TRIN? #upset
#d3fb #GoldRush #CentreCollege

D3Navy

Trinity 20 - B-SC 10.  Was at the game today.  Beautiful south Texas weather.  B-SC ran well (250+ yards), but was stopped when it mattered.  Also two missed field goals...

Trinity won without the big play today and it was nice to see the defense stiffen as the game went on.  Very physical play with several BIG hits.

Trinity seems confident this season in a way I haven't seen for the last 6-7 years.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: D3Navy on November 09, 2019, 06:41:45 PM
Trinity 20 - B-SC 10.  Was at the game today.  Beautiful south Texas weather.  B-SC ran well (250+ yards), but was stopped when it mattered.  Also two missed field goals...

Trinity won without the big play today and it was nice to see the defense stiffen as the game went on.  Very physical play with several BIG hits.

Trinity seems confident this season in a way I haven't seen for the last 6-7 years.

B-SC almost totally toothless through the air until the end when they had no choice but to throw the ball.  The dependency on the run - effective as it was -burned so much clock in the fourth quarter.  B-SC running game was impressive as was  Robert Shufford - he earned his 144 yards but had to work a little harder than normal (30 carries; had been averaging around 10 ypc).    Trinity's success was almost exclusively through the air and Messex was effective when given time.  No turnovers either way and the ball only hit the ground once, though both teams dropped a couple of catchable passes.

I do feel for the B-SC players and fans who saw their playoff dreams evaporate in the crisp (for South Texas) fall air.

D3Navy

Completely agree that the running game vs clock was pivotal for B-SC.  I'd also note that penalties didn't really play a role.  Some complaining by fans on some hard hits, out-of-bounds throws, etc, but the refs were right and fair.

BerryCollegeFan

Thanks to Centre for helping Justus continue his recovery process.

His walk to the spot.
https://youtu.be/40S1PvgQBsc

His comments on the field
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wN5BwKZcFQ&feature=emb_rel_pause

Pat Coleman

Quote from: BerryCollegeFan on November 11, 2019, 10:37:04 AM
Thanks to Centre for helping Justus continue his recovery process.

His walk to the spot.
https://youtu.be/40S1PvgQBsc

His comments on the field
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wN5BwKZcFQ&feature=emb_rel_pause


This was really amazing to watch. Referenced it in the podcast today -- actually gave Justus Edwards my game ball.
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