FB: Southern Athletic Association

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SW1

Quote from: D3Navy on September 25, 2022, 12:21:52 PM
"hosting" UMHB.  Like the sound of that.
Said noone ever! Good luck with that one.

D3Navy


BSCpanthers

Hosting is better than going to them.  If it all plays out right, we could have a replay of last season first round playoffs, except we play at opposite campuses.  Trinity could host UMHB and BSC could go to play at Huntingdon.  At least that is what I'm hoping for at this point,

SW1

So you think the winner of the ASC would have to travel in the first round? That sounds like some bias the Committee might attempt but pretty unlikely. Not that a game with Trinity won't happen but not sure the two conference winners should play first round again. Also know that HSU is a lot better than that score Sat. Things just got away from them and the Cru capitalized on those mistakes. It happens, just ask North Central.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: SW1 on September 26, 2022, 03:43:27 PM
So you think the winner of the ASC would have to travel in the first round? That sounds like some bias the Committee might attempt but pretty unlikely. Not that a game with Trinity won't happen but not sure the two conference winners should play first round again. Also know that HSU is a lot better than that score Sat. Things just got away from them and the Cru capitalized on those mistakes. It happens, just ask North Central.

If both Trinity and UMHB win their respective conferences and no other team within 600 miles makes the playoffs (e.g. HSU gets screwed again) then you can bet your last NCAA travel dollar that they'll face off in the first round. 

Pat Coleman

I am not sure why we have to leap to "bias" as the immediate answer to everything. It's the committee being hamstrung by Division III's rules and financing.
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wally_wabash

Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 26, 2022, 03:54:59 PM
Quote from: SW1 on September 26, 2022, 03:43:27 PM
So you think the winner of the ASC would have to travel in the first round? That sounds like some bias the Committee might attempt but pretty unlikely. Not that a game with Trinity won't happen but not sure the two conference winners should play first round again. Also know that HSU is a lot better than that score Sat. Things just got away from them and the Cru capitalized on those mistakes. It happens, just ask North Central.

If both Trinity and UMHB win their respective conferences and no other team within 600 miles makes the playoffs (e.g. HSU gets screwed again) then you can bet your last NCAA travel dollar that they'll face off in the first round.

Would really love folks to turn the page on this.  HSU did not get screwed last year.  They were ranked fifth in their own region.  The criteria never supported their selection. 
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Ron Boerger

If you are a supporter of a team in this region (or the West) there are plenty of times that teams are negatively impacted by by factors that teams in the rest of the country almost never face.  That colors other decisions made, reasonable or not.  Come support a team out here for three decades and I guarantee that you would understand our feelings on this and that "page turning" is an easier thing to say than to internalize.

The fact that HSU was fifth by the criteria merely points out the criteria aren't perfect. 

crufootball

Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 26, 2022, 04:15:01 PM
If you are a supporter of a team in this region (or the West) there are plenty of times that teams are negatively impacted by by factors that teams in the rest of the country almost never face.  That colors other decisions made, reasonable or not.  Come support a team out here for three decades and I guarantee that you would understand our feelings on this and that "page turning" is an easier thing to say than to internalize.

The fact that HSU was fifth by the criteria merely points out the criteria aren't perfect.

Amen!

Ralph Turner

The committee will ameliorate the playoff situation with the criteria.
RR#2 RMC will host someone for the 1st 2 rounds.

It will be Reg3 #1 TUTx hosting 1-loss RR#3 UMHB.

Just once I would love to meet an ODAC in the playoffs.
Some players were born the last time that happened.

(I can't remember when that game happened.)

awadelewis

Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 26, 2022, 05:13:46 PM
The committee will ameliorate the playoff situation with the criteria.
RR#2 RMC will host someone for the 1st 2 rounds.

It will be Reg3 #1 TUTx hosting 1-loss RR#3 UMHB.

Just once I would love to meet an ODAC in the playoffs.
Some players were born the last time that happened.

(I can't remember when that game happened.)

Looking at the record book,  aren't you thinking of Bridgewater in 2002?

Ralph Turner

Quote from: awadelewis on September 26, 2022, 10:56:05 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 26, 2022, 05:13:46 PM
The committee will ameliorate the playoff situation with the criteria.
RR#2 RMC will host someone for the 1st 2 rounds.

It will be Reg3 #1 TUTx hosting 1-loss RR#3 UMHB.

Just once I would love to meet an ODAC in the playoffs.
Some players were born the last time that happened.

(I can't remember when that game happened.)

Looking at the record book,  aren't you thinking of Bridgewater in 2002?
Yes, thank you. +1!
20 years ago.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2022, 12:07:40 AM
Quote from: awadelewis on September 26, 2022, 10:56:05 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 26, 2022, 05:13:46 PM
The committee will ameliorate the playoff situation with the criteria.
RR#2 RMC will host someone for the 1st 2 rounds.

It will be Reg3 #1 TUTx hosting 1-loss RR#3 UMHB.

Just once I would love to meet an ODAC in the playoffs.
Some players were born the last time that happened.

(I can't remember when that game happened.)

Looking at the record book,  aren't you thinking of Bridgewater in 2002?
Yes, thank you. +1!
20 years ago.

Back in the days of the "Kid", Matt Barnhart.  Last posted in 2019, last logged in March 2021.    Good times. 

According to LinkedIn, Matt is now Director, Recreational Competition for the United States Tennis Association.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 26, 2022, 05:13:46 PM
The committee will ameliorate the playoff situation with the criteria.
RR#2 RMC will host someone for the 1st 2 rounds.

It will be Reg3 #1 TUTx hosting 1-loss RR#3 UMHB.

Just once I would love to meet an ODAC in the playoffs.
Some players were born the last time that happened.

(I can't remember when that game happened.)

There are four brackets, not six. A 2 in a region is in no way guaranteed two home games.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 27, 2022, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 26, 2022, 05:13:46 PM
The committee will ameliorate the playoff situation with the criteria.
RR#2 RMC will host someone for the 1st 2 rounds.

It will be Reg3 #1 TUTx hosting 1-loss RR#3 UMHB.

Just once I would love to meet an ODAC in the playoffs.
Some players were born the last time that happened.

(I can't remember when that game happened.)

There are four brackets, not six. A 2 in a region is in no way guaranteed two home games.
Thanks. Region 3 #2 and Region 1 #2 might be the regions whose #2 fails to get the second hiome game....