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[SaintsFAN]

I'd be more inclined to rank TLU over Centre if their result against UMHB wasn't a 56-point loss.   Yes, I do know how hard it is to play in Belton and get a decent result, having see my alma mater lose by 42 there last year ... but said alma mater was a .500 team, not one in the playoff mix.

Oh I agree. I think TLU ahead of Centre is also stupid. Plus the game wasn't in Belton. It was at TLU. But at least you can make a case for TLU, especially with HSU sneaking into the rankings. But I can't come up with a legitimate case for rewarding Muhlenberg over Centre.

I assumed the game was in Belton with how bad the result was for TLU. 

[jknezek]

I'd be more inclined to rank TLU over Centre if their result against UMHB wasn't a 56-point loss.   Yes, I do know how hard it is to play in Belton and get a decent result, having see my alma mater lose by 42 there last year ... but said alma mater was a .500 team, not one in the playoff mix.

Oh I agree. I think TLU ahead of Centre is also stupid. Plus the game wasn't in Belton. It was at TLU. But at least you can make a case for TLU, especially with HSU sneaking into the rankings. But I can't come up with a legitimate case for rewarding Muhlenberg over Centre.

I assumed the game was in Belton with how bad the result was for TLU.

No. TLU just got taken to the woodshed. Granted Kean and HPU were buried just as bad or worse by UMHB, but those games were in Belton and those teams are under .500. TLU got absolutely creamed at home. We know their ceiling. We don't know an undefeated Centre's. For that reason alone I'd like to see an undefeated Centre make the playoffs and figure it out.

[DFWCrufan]

I would have to chime in and in my thinking I would agree. Just a point here but if your going to tell a Undefeated team (at least at the time of this post) that they are not good enough, then why should they compete at all? Sorry but in my mind (as twisted as it is) TLU is having difficulties in handling many of their games that they should not be having difficulty with, if your going by that measure than it would seem to me that Centre should be rewarded for their season if they hold as undefeated, otherwise what is the point, why even walk on a field? why waste the time...?
Sure some may say weight of schedule, Yeah. like College of Faith is a feat... next time maybe schedule a high school JV team to play...Or just put blocking dummies on the field, they play better than College of Fake...but it was a huge points mark up right??? looked good for the team that played that joke...

Centre should get the position if they go undefeated...

Sidenote HPU was played in Brownsville and not at the Cruthedral, and last year they lost by just as much or close to it.

[jknezek]

Sure some may say weight of schedule, Yeah. like College of Faith is a feat

Sidenote HPU was played in Brownsville and not at the Cruthedral, and last year they lost by just as much or close to it.

My bad on HPU. I actually checked the d3football.com schedule page and still got it wrong! As for Wesley and COF, it is what it is. Wesley had scheduling difficulties when they could offer home and home games, when they couldn't even do that since they are joining the NJAC next year it became an almost impossible task. It won't happen again with them joining the NJAC and I don't think anyone with any background in D3 football looked on that win as anything but a glorified scrimmage.

[Ralph Turner]

I'd be more inclined to rank TLU over Centre if their result against UMHB wasn't a 56-point loss.   Yes, I do know how hard it is to play in Belton and get a decent result, having see my alma mater lose by 42 there last year ... but said alma mater was a .500 team, not one in the playoff mix.

Oh I agree. I think TLU ahead of Centre is also stupid. Plus the game wasn't in Belton. It was at TLU. But at least you can make a case for TLU, especially with HSU sneaking into the rankings. But I can't come up with a legitimate case for rewarding Muhlenberg over Centre.

I assumed the game was in Belton with how bad the result was for TLU.

Actually a home game in Belton might have permitted the coach to go deeper into the depth chart sooner.

Also, I will not ignore the possibility that this game was a "statement" game by UMHB towards up-and-coming  TLU.

[jknezek]

I'd be more inclined to rank TLU over Centre if their result against UMHB wasn't a 56-point loss.   Yes, I do know how hard it is to play in Belton and get a decent result, having see my alma mater lose by 42 there last year ... but said alma mater was a .500 team, not one in the playoff mix.

Oh I agree. I think TLU ahead of Centre is also stupid. Plus the game wasn't in Belton. It was at TLU. But at least you can make a case for TLU, especially with HSU sneaking into the rankings. But I can't come up with a legitimate case for rewarding Muhlenberg over Centre.

I assumed the game was in Belton with how bad the result was for TLU.

Actually a home game in Belton might have permitted the coach to go deeper into the depth chart sooner.

Also, I will not ignore the possibility that this game was a "statement" game by UMHB towards up-and-coming  TLU.

True. But none of that changes the fact that we know TLU's ceiling. I don't really think Centre's ceiling is much if any higher, but I'd like Centre, if they earn it by going undefeated, to get a chance to find out. The tournament is meant to be inclusive. Leaving out an almost AQ undefeated champion on an argument over SOS just seems incredibly wrong to me.

[DFWCrufan]

My laying down the College of fake was just to make a point that if they tell a program that goes undefeated that they can't advance because of their scheduled games, well we can point to others.. Not to slight Wesley, I believe Wesley can and will (Out on my limb here) defeat MU, it is a great program. If Centre goes undefeated then they should receive a post season slot otherwise what is the point of competing...? In my twisted mind TLU, although a good program is not as dominant as they should be, having trouble with teams they should devour, and a silly WTF moment with LC that ended that game and a win over ETBU that I believe ETBU game up in that game. If the "good enough" criteria is applied then HSU in my mind has just as much right then, sure they lost two games but hey they are overall a tougher team, took on #2 ranked and gave them a 1st half wake up call.

[SaintsFAN]

I don't think UMHB was trying to make a statement.  I guess they could have been, but the coaches took their foot off the gas very early in the 3rd Quarter. 

They could have really blown the doors off TLU in this one:

*UMHB played 65 kids that day in Seguin. 
*UMHB had a punt return TD in the 3rd Quarter
*UMHB had a INT return TD in the 4th Quarter
*UMHB didn't score after the 2nd play of the 4th Quarter
*UMHB only had 129 yards of offense in the 2nd half. 

[pbrooks3]

Probably one of only a few posts on football this year.....hope that Centre comes through Saturday with its 10th win and somehow gets into the playoffs.  If they get in, would they be thrown to the wolves in the opening round - Mt. Union?

[GillCJ1]

Probably one of only a few posts on football this year.....hope that Centre comes through Saturday with its 10th win and somehow gets into the playoffs.  If they get in, would they be thrown to the wolves in the opening round - Mt. Union?

I really hope they get selected, too.  They deserve it in my eyes.  And yes, if they make it, chances are they will travel and face a pretty tough opponent.

[jknezek]

Probably one of only a few posts on football this year.....hope that Centre comes through Saturday with its 10th win and somehow gets into the playoffs.  If they get in, would they be thrown to the wolves in the opening round - Mt. Union?

If they get in, probably not. Where they would go would be anyone's guess at this point since Centre is within 500 miles of a lot of schools. It seems unlikely they would host with so many other undefeated teams around with stronger resumes, but that is also possible. If they get in I would expect them to be the equivalent of a 5 or 6 seed in an 8 team bracket or about a 3 seed in a 4 team pod. Not really UMU territory. More like the second tier teams.

Someone like John Carrol, W&J or Wheaton.

[Just A Guy]

Probably one of only a few posts on football this year.....hope that Centre comes through Saturday with its 10th win and somehow gets into the playoffs.  If they get in, would they be thrown to the wolves in the opening round - Mt. Union?

I really hope they get selected, too.  They deserve it in my eyes.  And yes, if they make it, chances are they will travel and face a pretty tough opponent.

I want to thank you for the support of our Colonels.

[jknezek]

Probably one of only a few posts on football this year.....hope that Centre comes through Saturday with its 10th win and somehow gets into the playoffs.  If they get in, would they be thrown to the wolves in the opening round - Mt. Union?

I really hope they get selected, too.  They deserve it in my eyes.  And yes, if they make it, chances are they will travel and face a pretty tough opponent.

I want to thank you for the support of our Colonels.

I think most of us don't want to see a 10-0 team left out of the playoffs. Given how it is turning out, I wish my Generals had done more to help their SOS instead of dropping it through the floor. Of course I really wish my Generals had won that game... or any of a lot of other ones they couldn't pull out at the end.

[Just A Guy]

Probably one of only a few posts on football this year.....hope that Centre comes through Saturday with its 10th win and somehow gets into the playoffs.  If they get in, would they be thrown to the wolves in the opening round - Mt. Union?

I really hope they get selected, too.  They deserve it in my eyes.  And yes, if they make it, chances are they will travel and face a pretty tough opponent.

I want to thank you for the support of our Colonels.

I think most of us don't want to see a 10-0 team left out of the playoffs. Given how it is turning out, I wish my Generals had done more to help their SOS instead of dropping it through the floor. Of course I really wish my Generals had won that game... or any of a lot of other ones they couldn't pull out at the end.

I understand the whole SOS thing, but c'mon....We lost our AQ a couple weeks ago and now talk of not making the playoffs with a perfect record..

[jknezek]

Probably one of only a few posts on football this year.....hope that Centre comes through Saturday with its 10th win and somehow gets into the playoffs.  If they get in, would they be thrown to the wolves in the opening round - Mt. Union?

I really hope they get selected, too.  They deserve it in my eyes.  And yes, if they make it, chances are they will travel and face a pretty tough opponent.

I want to thank you for the support of our Colonels.

I think most of us don't want to see a 10-0 team left out of the playoffs. Given how it is turning out, I wish my Generals had done more to help their SOS instead of dropping it through the floor. Of course I really wish my Generals had won that game... or any of a lot of other ones they couldn't pull out at the end.

I understand the whole SOS thing, but c'mon....We lost our AQ a couple weeks ago and now talk of not making the playoffs with a perfect record..

Well... to be fair you never had an AQ. Part of the decision to jettison the SCAC. But yeah, perfect record I believe you should be in. Not having the AQ is a technicality that common sense should fix.