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Quote from: timtlu on November 16, 2014, 10:08:37 PM
Yeah, the only real hope is for the SCAC and ASC to split the Texas/regional teams in half to accommodate both leagues an AQ.  However, there is no way that happens, they are too far away philisophically and in profile at this point.  The SCAC champ will be hoping for an AQ for the foreseeable future.
Ah...I understand. Bummer. So what you need, then is organic growth- schools adding football. I read a great article somewhere- not sure if I found the link from this site or where. But it was about D3 athletics and how colleges were touting their success in recruiting students by adding new sports. Football can bring in anywhere between 80-120 males alone. Lacrosse is a great one, and very popular these days too, where you can add 40 males/females and the program costs are negligible compared to the increased revenue- 40 students @ $40k each (or whatever tuition is).

Hendrix recently picked up football after a several decade hiatus. Oglethorpe is adding. Berry recently added. I guess the challenge is in getting the administration on board and then in integrating the student athletes into the student body successfully.

I know smed and Dave were talking about some of the potential candidates the other day. Hopefully you'll be able to find "like-minded" institutions sooner than later.

Tekken

Organic growth would sure be nice, but the writing on the wall doesn't look good.  My understanding is Centenary had immense enrollment problems this year, to the point of looking at overall sustainability.  I believe they are around or sub 500 total enrollment.  I believe it's a financial loss for Colorado, they would have to charter a flight for every single one of their away games.  U of D and Schreiner, possibly at some point.  Though U of D I believe had to cancel it's men's lacrosse season last year due to lack of interest; that's not very promising.  McMurry returning and Belhaven moving to the ASC, really hurts the SCAC.  The ASC now has much less incentive from an AQ angle to play nicely with the SCAC, as they would have if McM and Belhaven stood pat, leaving the ASC without an AQ as well.  The best bet for the region is probably two conferences, one with football schools, and one without, but again there are large philosophical differences between these schools that complicate that.

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Quote from: D3AlumniParent on November 16, 2014, 10:29:01 PMOglethorpe is adding.

I have not seen anything to say this. I know there has been talk going back at least a decade but that's a long way from action.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2014, 02:47:18 PM
Quote from: D3AlumniParent on November 16, 2014, 10:29:01 PMOglethorpe is adding.
I have not seen anything to say this. I know there has been talk going back at least a decade but that's a long way from action.

I stand corrected. I was told they were supposed to add by an athletics admin from an SAA school (not Centre). Oglethorpe wanted in the SAA but didn't offer enough sports. I just checked with her and there's still hope for football, but no definite plans yet. They're more likely to add softball and/or field hockey first.

Sorry for jumping the gun.

awadelewis

Sad news out of Jackson and Baton Rouge as former Millsaps QB Juan Joesph was shot to death outside of Baton Rouge nightclub on Sunday night.  Our thoughts and prayers go out to the Joesph family and the Millsaps community.

Article from today's Jackson newspaper:
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/11/17/juan-joseph-killed/19161789/

Ralph Turner

Quote from: awadelewis on November 17, 2014, 11:25:14 PM
Sad news out of Jackson and Baton Rouge as former Millsaps QB Juan Joesph was shot to death outside of Baton Rouge nightclub on Sunday night.  Our thoughts and prayers go out to the Joesph family and the Millsaps community.

Article from today's Jackson newspaper:
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/11/17/juan-joseph-killed/19161789/
NO!!!!!!!

Oh, I am so sorry!

My condolences!

Ralph Turner

Wow! The Juan Joseph story took the wind of my post.

I hope that the Centre fans will migrate to the hoops and baseball boards.

The NCAA uses SOS in most sports, and SOS has much more validity in those sports where the "n" is larger!

awadelewis

Joseph was one of those players who was the classic example of a D3 athlete.   He had the opportunity for a scholarship to play at a D1 HBCU but passed on that opportunity because of the better academics at Millsaps.    I think that's true of a lot of the students who participate at this level and esp. among the schools in the SAA.   




awadelewis

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2014, 12:11:45 AM

I hope that the Centre fans will migrate to the hoops and baseball boards.

The NCAA uses SOS in most sports, and SOS has much more validity in those sports where the "n" is larger!

I'll add my voice to Ralph's in his call to get the Centre folks to stay with us over in the other boards.     There's some of pretty entertaining basketball that goes on in our league and y'all look to be in the thick of things.   Looking forward to seeing the you folks come to the Mountain on 01/04.... always a good game.

Back to football,   it's hard for me to get a read on JCU.   They pretty much thumped everyone they played in conference except for Mount Union and looked to have played pretty well against the Mount.     And whomever wins this weekend will have a good chance of eventually having to take on Mount Union later in the bracket.      Tough draw....

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Quote from: awadelewis on November 17, 2014, 11:25:14 PM
Sad news out of Jackson and Baton Rouge as former Millsaps QB Juan Joesph was shot to death outside of Baton Rouge nightclub on Sunday night.  Our thoughts and prayers go out to the Joesph family and the Millsaps community.

Article from today's Jackson newspaper:
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/11/17/juan-joseph-killed/19161789/

Awful news.  Just terrible to see a life cut so short.
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This is what it's all about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0kc7W9jtpg

The team's excitement on being announced is at 1:50. We're all so proud of our young men! Go Colonels!

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Quote from: Colonel_U on November 19, 2014, 01:58:09 PM

This is what it's all about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0kc7W9jtpg

The team's excitement on being announced is at 1:50. We're all so proud of our young men! Go Colonels!
That video is awesome ;D

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Colonel_U on November 19, 2014, 01:58:09 PM

This is what it's all about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0kc7W9jtpg

The team's excitement on being announced is at 1:50. We're all so proud of our young men! Go Colonels!
Thanks.  +1!

awadelewis

Well that certainly didn't last long...
http://saa-sports.com/information/Football_Chicago_-_Wash_U

Lot's of talk about this over on the SCAC thread.  So I thought I'd start a thread over here as well.

Chicago going a different route doesn't surprise me as they just didn't feel like a good fit.   Thought there was a chance of WashU sticking around for an extended period but they've always struck me as wanting to be associated with the UAA schools instead of the schools in our league.

So who replaces WashU and Chicago?   Berea is a possibility as a non-football member.   Doesn't appear to be any options amongst football schools here in the South unless the SAA goes raiding other conferences.

cush

I like adding Berea as the 9th member than bringing in a football school for 10, so the schedule are balanced with 10 all sports and 8 football. Also, good to help out school's moving to D3 and berea is a good fit for the SAA. No idea who  would be for the football addition to go with Berea. I guess you could see if any of the virginia D3 school's would want to jump but they probably don't want to deal with the travel. Yet, if they did you could add 3 of them to get to 12 all sports and 10 football + break off into 2 divisions to cut travel. The other option would be to work with the SCAC and  ASC to find football only homes for SCAC school's among the SAA and ASC. Of course, the simplest is to just add berea and  1 football playing school.