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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 21, 2017, 11:33:13 PM
Oh, I would agree, but if Trinity could just play a full game ... against BSC, Sewanee, to a lesser extent Millsaps, TU were lights out for three quarters and then the wheels fall off.   Against Rhodes, Centre, Chapman it was iffy first 2-3 quarters and huge play down the stretch.   Let's play 48, men!   :)

;)  or better yet, 60!   ;)   ;D

Ron Boerger

LOL - maybe *that's* the problem ;-)   +1

paparcc

Quote from: awadelewis on October 21, 2017, 08:17:37 PM
So... Trinity beat Sewanee today by a score of 27-21.   Trinity had a 27-0 lead in the third quarter and let us put up three touchdowns on them over about a  6-7 minute period at the end of the third and start of the fourth.   This was after Trinity's defense was skull-dragging our kids up to that point.

And I think Sewanee would have made it even more difficult on Trinity except for the refs calling a rather dubious roughing the passer penalty and a darn silly (I said stronger words at the time) personal foul penalty by one of our defensive players.

Now that I've seen both Berry and Trinity,  advantage Berry when Trinity goes to Rome if the Vikings keep playing like they been doing so far this season.

Not if Berry plays like they did against Milsaps.  Yes they won, and I guess sometimes good teams find ways to win even when it's not their best effort, but that was disappointing.  Too many penalties and Berry's leading rusher had 38 yds.....that's #$%^ poor. 

Ralph Turner

I think that we saw Week #8 doldrums for a lot of teams...

Berry
HSU against TLU
W&J finally woke up after Westminster jumped to a 21-7 lead to win in OT.
Illinois Wesleyan recovered from a 10-0 halftime deficit to beat Carthage 13-10.

albatross

Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 21, 2017, 11:33:13 PM
Oh, I would agree, but if Trinity could just play a full game ... against BSC, Sewanee, to a lesser extent Millsaps, TU were lights out for three quarters and then the wheels fall off.   Against Rhodes, Centre, Chapman it was iffy first 2-3 quarters and huge play down the stretch.   Let's play 48, men!   :)

The Trinity-Hendrix game should be a fun one! I'm loving the close games this year...parity has improved some (save the Vikings having a stellar year and taking care of business).

roocru

I went to watch my Roos play this past Saturday.  First of all, congratulations to BSC for making the plays they needed to win. AC lost by 7 and gave up a KO return and a long blocked FG return for touchdowns.  Both teams were pretty evenly matched.  I thought BSC might have a slight speed advantage in the secondary but otherwise this game was a toss up.  AC led in all statistical categories (including the bad ones) but just made two big mistakes in the kicking game. AC has two games left (Trinity & Rhodes) both away but I hope they can end up at .500 for the year!
Anything that you ardently desire, vividly imagine, totally believe and enthusiastically pursue will inevitably come to pass !!!


BerryViking92

Quote from: albatross on October 22, 2017, 07:54:22 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 21, 2017, 11:33:13 PM
Oh, I would agree, but if Trinity could just play a full game ... against BSC, Sewanee, to a lesser extent Millsaps, TU were lights out for three quarters and then the wheels fall off.   Against Rhodes, Centre, Chapman it was iffy first 2-3 quarters and huge play down the stretch.   Let's play 48, men!   :)

The Trinity-Hendrix game should be a fun one! I'm loving the close games this year...parity has improved some (save the Vikings having a stellar year and taking care of business).

Hoping you guys can do us a favor and beat Trinity on  Saturday.  Should be a great game.

Ron Boerger

Wouldn't you rather start your playoff experience a week earlier with a must-win Game 10?    ;) 

BerryViking92

Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 23, 2017, 08:56:16 AM
Wouldn't you rather start your playoff experience a week earlier with a must-win Game 10?    ;)

NOOOOOO!

jknezek

Quote from: jknezek on October 20, 2017, 04:38:53 PM
This is kind of a wag just going by what's available right now in terms of SOS and who I think might be ranked. Obviously the CC tangle unravels a bit depending on who gets ranked, and some of those teams still play. Same with CWRU and CMU and Westminster and CMU and W&J. Hard to ignore H-SC's SOS, I'm not sure CNU gets ranked in the East right now though and 2 losses is a tough pill to swallow at this point in the season.

That being said, CWRU gets credit for being undefeated, but not over HSU losing to UMHB. Same with W&J. Unless CMU gets ranked. If CMU sneaks in instead of Shenandoah, then I would bump W&J up over HSU being 1-0 RRO. If W&J is 0-0, I think HSU claims that third spot.  Centre's SOS is going to come down, but for now it looks good, and you are pairing that with a loss to my theoretical 2. That's not a bad resume. Not enough to get over an undefeated CWRU, but second best among the 1 loss teams. Ursinus over JHU right now on H2H. F&M not far behind. Hard to ignore F&M's SOS, but the loss to JHU slots them below the Blue Jays. You could push Ursinus behind JHU and F&M on SOS, but that ignores a big H2H. Luckily Ursinus and F&M still play. Shenandoah gets the 10 spot because Hobart could be ranked in the East and their SOS is significantly better than the other possibilities.

1) UMHB (2-0 RRO South and West, 5 SOS)
2) Berry (1-0 RRO, 60 SOS)
3) HSU (0-1 RRO, 47 SOS)
4) W&J (0-0 RRO, 197 SOS)
5) CWRU (0-0 RRO, 234 SOS)
6) Centre (0-1 RR, 55 SOS)
7) Ursinus (1-0 RRO, 194 SOS)
8) JHU (1-1 RRO, 30 SOS)
9) F&M (0-1 RRO, 17 SOS)
10) Shenandoah (0-1 RRO East, 104 SOS)

Other possibilities
CMU (0-1 RRO, 201 SOS)
Huntingdon (0-0 RRO, 142 SOS)
Westminster (0-1 RRO North, 206 SOS)

Long Shots
H-SC (0-2 RRO West and East, 8 SOS)

Just to give the newbies a chance to see how quickly all this can change. Above is what I posted late last week. If I'm doing it today, it looks more like this:

1) 7-0 UMHB (2-0 RRO South and West, 28 SOS) -- see the SOS movement from one game?
2) 8-0 Berry (1-0 RRO, 76 SOS) -- SOS will continue to fall. to hold this position they need Centre to stay ranked
3) 5-1 HSU (0-1 RRO, 35 SOS) -- Big SOS jump. Might jump Berry if Berry loses the RRO result
4) 7-0 W&J (1-0 RRO, 151 SOS) -- Big SOS jump, gained an RRO with CMU, but not enough to jump HSU
5) 7-0 CWRU (0-0 RRO, 234 SOS) -- no movement
6) 6-1 JHU (1-0 RRO, 40 SOS) -- SOS drop, lose a RRO result. Moved up on SOS
7) 6-1 F&M (0-1 RRO, 30 SOS) -- SOS drop, but still moved up. Below JHU on H2H
8) 6-1 Centre (0-1 RR, 74 SOS) -- Big SOS drop, drop in the rankings
9) 7-1 CMU (0-1 RRO, 216 SOS) -- enter the rankings. SOS will improve with last 2 games
10) 5-1 Huntingdon (0-0, 98 SOS) -- SOS improvement and one loss moves them in, but no RROs makes it a weak position


Dropped Out
Ursinus (1-0 RRO, 158 SOS) -- 2 losses and pretty much out of contention for CC AQ. RRO result might have them sit 10th still
Shenandoah (0-0 RRO, 120 SOS) a loss, losing Hobart as an RRO, and an SOS drop. Triple whammy

Long Shot
Westminster (0-2 RRO North and South, 142 SOS) -- big SOS game, got another RRO result, but not the one they needed

albatross

Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 23, 2017, 08:56:16 AM
Wouldn't you rather start your playoff experience a week earlier with a must-win Game 10?    ;)

I must say, a locked-up SAA by Week 10 would be a little out of the ordinary considering recent history! But...even then, we are almost 100 percent likely to send a different team (as in Berry instead of Wash. U) to the playoffs. First SAA Champion to make back-to-back playoff champions should get another prize.

hasanova

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 22, 2017, 01:23:28 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 21, 2017, 11:33:13 PM
Oh, I would agree, but if Trinity could just play a full game ... against BSC, Sewanee, to a lesser extent Millsaps, TU were lights out for three quarters and then the wheels fall off.   Against Rhodes, Centre, Chapman it was iffy first 2-3 quarters and huge play down the stretch.   Let's play 48, men!   :)

;)  or better yet, 60!   ;)   ;D
Still in HS mode, Ron?  :)

BerryCollegeFan

Quote from: BerryViking92 on October 23, 2017, 08:01:53 AM
8-0 :)
Glad to see 8-0.  Millsaps played well when they could have rolled over.  That was a tight game.  Penalties made it long downs several times for Berry.  Need to clean those up.  but all the same glad to be 8-0 for sure.

Hawks88

Quote from: jknezek on October 23, 2017, 09:48:20 AM
Quote from: jknezek on October 20, 2017, 04:38:53 PM
This is kind of a wag just going by what's available right now in terms of SOS and who I think might be ranked. Obviously the CC tangle unravels a bit depending on who gets ranked, and some of those teams still play. Same with CWRU and CMU and Westminster and CMU and W&J. Hard to ignore H-SC's SOS, I'm not sure CNU gets ranked in the East right now though and 2 losses is a tough pill to swallow at this point in the season.

That being said, CWRU gets credit for being undefeated, but not over HSU losing to UMHB. Same with W&J. Unless CMU gets ranked. If CMU sneaks in instead of Shenandoah, then I would bump W&J up over HSU being 1-0 RRO. If W&J is 0-0, I think HSU claims that third spot.  Centre's SOS is going to come down, but for now it looks good, and you are pairing that with a loss to my theoretical 2. That's not a bad resume. Not enough to get over an undefeated CWRU, but second best among the 1 loss teams. Ursinus over JHU right now on H2H. F&M not far behind. Hard to ignore F&M's SOS, but the loss to JHU slots them below the Blue Jays. You could push Ursinus behind JHU and F&M on SOS, but that ignores a big H2H. Luckily Ursinus and F&M still play. Shenandoah gets the 10 spot because Hobart could be ranked in the East and their SOS is significantly better than the other possibilities.

1) UMHB (2-0 RRO South and West, 5 SOS)
2) Berry (1-0 RRO, 60 SOS)
3) HSU (0-1 RRO, 47 SOS)
4) W&J (0-0 RRO, 197 SOS)
5) CWRU (0-0 RRO, 234 SOS)
6) Centre (0-1 RR, 55 SOS)
7) Ursinus (1-0 RRO, 194 SOS)
8) JHU (1-1 RRO, 30 SOS)
9) F&M (0-1 RRO, 17 SOS)
10) Shenandoah (0-1 RRO East, 104 SOS)

Other possibilities
CMU (0-1 RRO, 201 SOS)
Huntingdon (0-0 RRO, 142 SOS)
Westminster (0-1 RRO North, 206 SOS)

Long Shots
H-SC (0-2 RRO West and East, 8 SOS)

Just to give the newbies a chance to see how quickly all this can change. Above is what I posted late last week. If I'm doing it today, it looks more like this:

1) 7-0 UMHB (2-0 RRO South and West, 28 SOS) -- see the SOS movement from one game?
2) 8-0 Berry (1-0 RRO, 76 SOS) -- SOS will continue to fall. to hold this position they need Centre to stay ranked
3) 5-1 HSU (0-1 RRO, 35 SOS) -- Big SOS jump. Might jump Berry if Berry loses the RRO result
4) 7-0 W&J (1-0 RRO, 151 SOS) -- Big SOS jump, gained an RRO with CMU, but not enough to jump HSU
5) 7-0 CWRU (0-0 RRO, 234 SOS) -- no movement
6) 6-1 JHU (1-0 RRO, 40 SOS) -- SOS drop, lose a RRO result. Moved up on SOS
7) 6-1 F&M (0-1 RRO, 30 SOS) -- SOS drop, but still moved up. Below JHU on H2H
8) 6-1 Centre (0-1 RR, 74 SOS) -- Big SOS drop, drop in the rankings
9) 7-1 CMU (0-1 RRO, 216 SOS) -- enter the rankings. SOS will improve with last 2 games
10) 5-1 Huntingdon (0-0, 98 SOS) -- SOS improvement and one loss moves them in, but no RROs makes it a weak position


Dropped Out
Ursinus (1-0 RRO, 158 SOS) -- 2 losses and pretty much out of contention for CC AQ. RRO result might have them sit 10th still
Shenandoah (0-0 RRO, 120 SOS) a loss, losing Hobart as an RRO, and an SOS drop. Triple whammy

Long Shot
Westminster (0-2 RRO North and South, 142 SOS) -- big SOS game, got another RRO result, but not the one they needed
Gained 44 spots on the SOS during our bye week? Wow. I guess it helped a lot to have Guilford and BSC both win this week. It will likely take a nose dive the next two weeks with Greensboro and Methodist coming up.