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Started by Ron Boerger, October 25, 2011, 02:57:49 PM

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justafan12

I looked at the SAA teams and Hendrix was the one I thought might be one interested.  I only factor I looked at was location.  I have no idea about the academic factors or other things that weigh into a decision.

Southwestern is leaving the ASC after next year and I have heard a rumor that there may be another one leaving.  Lots of rumors this time of year so only time will tell.  With UMHB and HSU dominating the football landscape I just thought schools might entertain the idea of moving on looking for possible greener pastures.

BSCpanthers

Because of the number of schools and conferences, every year there are multiple moves between conferences.  I don't expect this year to be any different.  No telling what kind of movement we may see by the time Centenary starts playing.  The worst part about it is it could take the Pool C number down to 4. 

Riley Zayas

For any who are interested, our preview of tomorrow's first-round playoff contest in Belton between UMHB and Trinity is up...I expect a good showing from the Trinity defense. Really like what I've seen on film from them this season. With the play of both defenses, don't be surprised if we see a lower-scoring game in this one...

https://truetothecru.com/2021/11/19/playoff-preview-no-2-umhb-vs-no-16-trinity/
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D3Navy

Quote from: True To The Cru on November 19, 2021, 08:39:52 PM
For any who are interested, our preview of tomorrow's first-round playoff contest in Belton between UMHB and Trinity is up...I expect a good showing from the Trinity defense. Really like what I've seen on film from them this season. With the play of both defenses, don't be surprised if we see a lower-scoring game in this one...

https://truetothecru.com/2021/11/19/playoff-preview-no-2-umhb-vs-no-16-trinity/

You are spot on at halftime. 3-3.

Ralph Turner

Congrats to TUTX. Great game and I am happy for your program.

tigerguy

Obviously disappointed but proud of my Tigers. Score won't fully show it but they went toe to toe with UMHB the entire game and showed that their defensive numbers all year weren't a fluke. Wish the offense had been able to get anything going but the lack of a run game just proved too big of a hurdle. Hopefully BSC can play UMHB as close as the Tigers did today. Congrats to the Crusaders and now I hope they run the table.


Ralph Turner

Quote from: tigerguy on November 20, 2021, 03:36:58 PM
Obviously disappointed but proud of my Tigers. Score won't fully show it but they went toe to toe with UMHB the entire game and showed that their defensive numbers all year weren't a fluke. Wish the offense had been able to get anything going but the lack of a run game just proved too big of a hurdle. Hopefully BSC can play UMHB as close as the Tigers did today. Congrats to the Crusaders and now I hope they run the table.
Jerheme Urban has really brought football back to Trinity!  I am very excited for your program.  Look at the first round score board. Everyone in the country will know that this was a great matchup of Top 25 Top 16 teams. Let's see how strong UMHB really is. Right now, they have only shown me Top 16 calibre.

tigerguy

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2021, 03:41:14 PM
Let's see how strong UMHB really is. Right now, they have only shown me Top 16 calibre.

UMHB fans might point you to the game against Hardin Simmons. I agree though - have to wait and see how UMHB does against the other out of conference opponents in the coming weeks.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: tigerguy on November 20, 2021, 03:45:54 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2021, 03:41:14 PM
Let's see how strong UMHB really is. Right now, they have only shown me Top 16 calibre.

UMHB fans might point you to the game against Hardin Simmons. I agree though - have to wait and see how UMHB does against the other out of conference opponents in the coming weeks.
Yes, but I also will say that the top tier teams at this level have a FG kicker who is "automatic" in the red zone, basically a 40-yd attempt or closer. If UMHB had made all 4 "makeable" FG's, then this would have been a different game.

UMHB made from 42 and 33 and missed from 42 at the end of the 1st half and missed from 41 with the wind.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: tigerguy on November 20, 2021, 03:45:54 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2021, 03:41:14 PM
Let's see how strong UMHB really is. Right now, they have only shown me Top 16 calibre.

UMHB fans might point you to the game against Hardin Simmons. I agree though - have to wait and see how UMHB does against the other out of conference opponents in the coming weeks.
Yes, but I also will say that the top tier teams at this level have a FG kicker who is "automatic" in the red zone, basically a 40-yd attempt or closer. If UMHB had made all 4 "makeable" FG's, then this would have been a different game.

UMHB made from 42 and 33 and missed from 42 at the end of the 1st half and missed from 41 with the wind.

This was a 1-possession game for 58+ minutes.


Etchglow

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2021, 04:01:07 PM
Quote from: tigerguy on November 20, 2021, 03:45:54 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2021, 03:41:14 PM
Let's see how strong UMHB really is. Right now, they have only shown me Top 16 calibre.

UMHB fans might point you to the game against Hardin Simmons. I agree though - have to wait and see how UMHB does against the other out of conference opponents in the coming weeks.
Yes, but I also will say that the top tier teams at this level have a FG kicker who is "automatic" in the red zone, basically a 40-yd attempt or closer. If UMHB had made all 4 "makeable" FG's, then this would have been a different game.

UMHB made from 42 and 33 and missed from 42 at the end of the 1st half and missed from 41 with the wind.

This was a 1-possession game for 58+ minutes.

Honestly, I'm surprised Avila made the first one. 42 yards into a 15-20 mph headwind isn't anywhere near automatic at the diii level. As to needing a good kicker, Avila is the same kicker we had in 18. Pretty sure he even missed a fg in the Stagg bowl. Pretty sure we missed a chip shot in the 2016 Stagg bowl as well.

Ron Boerger

D1 teams have a hard time finding good kickers, by the time you get to D3 the pickings are slim.

For a team that hadn't sniffed the playoffs in a decade to hold a perennial championship contender to one TD and a couple of FGs on the road is a pretty good performance. Now they have a much better idea of what it takes to compete at this level, but Trinity will have to replace a lot of the guys that performed well today.  It'll be interesting to see what BSC, with a stronger rushing attack (but lesser passing), does in Belton next week.

D3Navy

Post game comments from Coach Urban, Tucker Horn, and Caleb Harmel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9BksOdWYjY

Cowboy2

Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 20, 2021, 05:25:56 PM
For a team that hadn't sniffed the playoffs in a decade to hold a perennial championship contender to one TD and a couple of FGs on the road is a pretty good performance. Now they have a much better idea of what it takes to compete at this level, but Trinity will have to replace a lot of the guys that performed well today.  It'll be interesting to see what BSC, with a stronger rushing attack (but lesser passing), does in Belton next week.

It was very windy today. Results showed in UMHBs kicking game and TUs passing attack. UMHB was dominate up front and made TU one dimensional. I feel if they connect for the passing TD instead of the FG they may have held on....that's how good TUs D played.

UMHB got their go ahead FG on a couple busted plays with TU defenders falling down into each other. (Option and long pass that drive). Take away the "fluke perfectly schemed body on body,
4&1 redo, rushing TD"they may have gone into OT. Anyways if "ifs and buts" we would be victorious but we weren't.

All in all a very clean game by both teams. Happy how they both represented Texas in their respective conferences. I'd like to have seen this game in December....not 1st round. Thanks NCAA.

I think Trinity will be in a good place for the next few years. UMHB will need to replace 6 offensive Starters and 8 defensive starters on each side of the ball. However, they're always deep and reload - not rebuild.  Respectively Trinity loses 3 on offense and 4 on defense....lots of depth too.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/cruathletics.com/documents/2021/11/18/UMHB_FB_GAME_NOTES_NOV_20.pdf
I'm unsure how many HSU and BSC will have return next season. Haven't looked that deep yet. Then again who knows with the eligibility rules with Covid season. Berry will be back. Centre will be back. Huntingdon - back. Hendrix - back.  The ASC has some young teams in HP and Belhaven. Looking forward to seeing next week's  match up. The south has some good teams. It's just how it always has been though. In one-two rounds only one team is left to represent the entire region.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 20, 2021, 05:25:56 PM
D1 teams have a hard time finding good kickers, by the time you get to D3 the pickings are slim.

For a team that hadn't sniffed the playoffs in a decade to hold a perennial championship contender to one TD and a couple of FGs on the road is a pretty good performance. Now they have a much better idea of what it takes to compete at this level, but Trinity will have to replace a lot of the guys that performed well today.  It'll be interesting to see what BSC, with a stronger rushing attack (but lesser passing), does in Belton next week.
Auburn's PK, Anders Carlson, was injured last week. His replacement tonight shanked a 25 yard attempt in Auburn's 21-17 loss at South Carolina. Touche'