FB: Southern Athletic Association

[BSCpanthers]

The loan program was approved, but the last news I heard was about BSC and the state agreeing on the terms.  I don't know what has happened since then.  The city and county for sure would like to keep BSC, it helps keep that neighborhood in a positive light.  Hopefully BSC can get things completely(mostly) straightened out and can be prosperous again.  Leadership has said the right things, now they need to follow it up by doing the right things.

[Ron Boerger]

The loan program was approved, but the last news I heard was about BSC and the state agreeing on the terms.  I don't know what has happened since then.  The city and county for sure would like to keep BSC, it helps keep that neighborhood in a positive light.  Hopefully BSC can get things completely(mostly) straightened out and can be prosperous again.  Leadership has said the right things, now they need to follow it up by doing the right things.

This might have something to do with the radio silence:  Is Birmingham Southern Bill unconstitutional? Legal expert explains possible reason behind AG opinion sought.   

[BSCpanthers]

Well that explains why we are still sitting in a holding pattern on the financial side of life. 

Time for MeeMaw to go. 

[crufootball]

The loan program was approved, but the last news I heard was about BSC and the state agreeing on the terms.  I don't know what has happened since then.  The city and county for sure would like to keep BSC, it helps keep that neighborhood in a positive light.  Hopefully BSC can get things completely(mostly) straightened out and can be prosperous again.  Leadership has said the right things, now they need to follow it up by doing the right things.

This might have something to do with the radio silence:  Is Birmingham Southern Bill unconstitutional? Legal expert explains possible reason behind AG opinion sought.   

I realize these things are complex and you can't do y until you do x, but I always laugh when I see how a lot of governmental things operate. We tell kids to not wait to do their homework because when they get older things have to get done on time, well if they ever pay attention to the news they will always see things go well past the "deadline" and nothing ever seems to change.

[rjtiger]

I know Ron already did the counts but I was bored and wanted to test my tool on some other schools so I did the SAA.  Here is the google document that contains all of the roster breakdowns as of 11:10 PM Central.  If you see any errors or parsing issues let me know and I can write some code to fix those.  The script can now pull the rosters on demand so it should be easy to update.  Now off to the other conferences tomorrow!


SAA Roster Breakdown

Thanks so much for doing this, I have have been fascinated with the D3 sports world since my son started playing and the recruiting process.  It is almost more of a Sales Job than a Coaching Job at this level.  The attrition is somewhat sad but understandable, these schools that bring in 40+ kids makes it hard when these kids walk in the door and realize there are 7+ Freshman at the same position.  It would be interesting to see how many stayed at school and how many just stopped playing. 

[BSCpanthers]

I know Ron already did the counts but I was bored and wanted to test my tool on some other schools so I did the SAA.  Here is the google document that contains all of the roster breakdowns as of 11:10 PM Central.  If you see any errors or parsing issues let me know and I can write some code to fix those.  The script can now pull the rosters on demand so it should be easy to update.  Now off to the other conferences tomorrow!


SAA Roster Breakdown

Thanks so much for doing this, I have have been fascinated with the D3 sports world since my son started playing and the recruiting process.  It is almost more of a Sales Job than a Coaching Job at this level.  The attrition is somewhat sad but understandable, these schools that bring in 40+ kids makes it hard when these kids walk in the door and realize there are 7+ Freshman at the same position.  It would be interesting to see how many stayed at school and how many just stopped playing.

Attrition is strong in D3.  Since every kid is essentially a walk on, if they aren't happy with their situation they just stop playing.  Unlike a scholarshiped player that has an incentive to continue.  So many schools recruit as many kids as they can get to show up, hoping there'll be talent and dedication in that group.  It also helps with genral student numbers when you have 125-150 kids at the school that wouldn't otherwise be there without an opportunity to play college ball. 

[jekelish]

I know Ron already did the counts but I was bored and wanted to test my tool on some other schools so I did the SAA.  Here is the google document that contains all of the roster breakdowns as of 11:10 PM Central.  If you see any errors or parsing issues let me know and I can write some code to fix those.  The script can now pull the rosters on demand so it should be easy to update.  Now off to the other conferences tomorrow!


SAA Roster Breakdown

Thanks so much for doing this, I have have been fascinated with the D3 sports world since my son started playing and the recruiting process.  It is almost more of a Sales Job than a Coaching Job at this level.  The attrition is somewhat sad but understandable, these schools that bring in 40+ kids makes it hard when these kids walk in the door and realize there are 7+ Freshman at the same position.  It would be interesting to see how many stayed at school and how many just stopped playing.

Attrition is strong in D3.  Since every kid is essentially a walk on, if they aren't happy with their situation they just stop playing.  Unlike a scholarshiped player that has an incentive to continue.  So many schools recruit as many kids as they can get to show up, hoping there'll be talent and dedication in that group.  It also helps with genral student numbers when you have 125-150 kids at the school that wouldn't otherwise be there without an opportunity to play college ball.

Yep. And when you're paying $60k+ a year like you do at private schools, you don't wanna pay that much or put yourself in that much student debt only to sit on the bench. Happens a ton where a kid tries it out, sees they won't play much, if at all, the first couple years, and decides there are much cheaper options if they aren't going to be playing anyway.

[Ron Boerger]

SAA pre-season poll is out:

1. Trinity - 63 pts (7)
2. Berry - 57 pts (2)
3. Centre - 47 pts
T4. Birmingham-Southern - 37 pts
T4. Rhodes - 37 pts
6. Hendrix - 30 pts
7. Southwestern - 28 pts
8. Millsaps - 14 pts
9. Sewanee - 11 pts

Have to admit I am surprised to see Berry get two first-place votes, but they did play Trinity tight last year on the road and return seven all-SAA players and the SAA newcomer of the year (Trinity returns eight). 

[Ron Boerger]

From the point structure coaches vote on eight teams excluding their own, thus Trinity gets 7x8 (56) + 1x7 = 63 points.  Berry, 2x8+5x7+1x6 = 57.

[BSCpanthers]

Hopefully BSC players feel the disrespect and come out angry this season.  Our defense should be solid, DL should be one of the best in the league.  OL has some holes to replace, we may struggle keeping our QB upright.  But he is a scrambler and that should help hi, out a lot this season.  RB and WR are a question mark going into the season.  I see a lot of low scoring ball games for us this season. 

[Ron Boerger]

Here's one way the vote could have broken out (but almost certainly did not):

School	Points	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	5th	6th	7th	8th
Trinity	63	7	1	-	-	-	-	-	-
Berry	57	2	5	1	-	-	-	-	-
Centre	47	-	1	5	2	-	-	-	-
BSC	37	-	1	1	2	3	-	1	-
Rhodes	37	-	1	2	2	1	-	2	-
Hendrix	30	-	-	-	1	5	1	1	-
Southwestern	28	-	-	-	2	-	6	-	-
Millsaps	14	-	-	-	-	-	2	2	4
Sewanee	11	-	-	-	-	-	-	3	5

The first two are correct as that's the only way Trinity can get 63, and Berry 57 with what's left.  Centre could have gotten seven thirds and a fourth; after that, it's a crap shoot.  I don't think anyone actually gave BSC a 7th but yeah, regardless that's a lot of disrespect for a team that could almost as easily have won the last two against Trinity as lost them. 

[tigerguy]

Anybody make it to the Trinity/TLU scrimmage? If so, how'd the teams look?

[DuffMan]

If anyone other than Ron is coming up to MN this weekend, head on over to the MIAC Board to say hi and get some pointers.  Safe travels!

[umhb2001]

What is the fan's take on the conference realignment? I know what the thoughts are from a Crusader perspective. I'd like to hear from those outside of CruNation.

[Ralph Turner]

I believe that McMurry's current administration just got tired of participating in the "Athletics Arms Race". Just look at the number of conference championships, number of conference tourney appearances, and NCAA playoff slots that they have earned since the return from the attempt to go D-2.

One can proclaim the move from the ASC to the SCAC and a "Mission and Vision" thing. However, the "Panache" of SCAC just transfered to the SAA with TU and Southwestern taking their feathers and leaving.