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Started by Ron Boerger, October 25, 2011, 02:57:49 PM

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tigerguy

Also - I'll continue to proclaim this for all to hear: Trinity has the best broadcast production-wise in D3. Their in-game graphics and camera angles are spot on. There aren't unnecessary transitions. They obviously don't have a dedicated broadcaster (pretty sure its just students), but you can't beat the production.

What are some other solid D3 broadcasts that are comparable? UMHB usually has a good one, but there were some production issues the last time we played there. 

Pat Coleman

Ithaca is always among the best operations as well. I haven't watched a ton of Wabash football but Wabash basketball is really well produced so I would bet the same is true about football.
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BSCpanthers

It's for sure not Southwestern.  As far as I could tell there were two cameras at yesterdays game, one was being operated by a crack head.  Why during play the camera should ever be showing the wonderful central Texas horizon is beyond me, but we got it a lot yesterday. 

I've honestly have never watched a BSC home broadcast, so I don't know how good or bad we are. 

I will say this about Southwestern, they had a pretty nice pregame show, just need to work on camera operation. 

sigma one

Wabash fb broadcasts are really, really good.  Multiple cameras, replays, graphics.  The cameras are well placed, close to the field, and of high quality.  The announcers have been doing the games for many years, and they are real pros; both work at the College.  The video production is handled entirely by students--and this with no communications program at Wabash.  The SID does a superior job of training the crew.  He works closely with the excellent student bb broadcasters as well.  If you think I am biased, tune in sometime to both the fb and bb feeds.

tigerguy

Quote from: sigma one on September 24, 2023, 04:58:57 PM
Wabash fb broadcasts are really, really good.  Multiple cameras, replays, graphics.  The cameras are well placed, close to the field, and of high quality.  The announcers have been doing the games for many years, and they are real pros; both work at the College.  The video production is handled entirely by students--and this with no communications program at Wabash.  The SID does a superior job of training the crew.  He works closely with the excellent student bb broadcasters as well.  If you think I am biased, tune in sometime to both the fb and bb feeds.

Just watched some prior Wabash broadcasts. Your descriptions were accurate - their production is also excellent. I amend my proclamation to be that Trinity's broadcast continues to be one of the best in D3! Would still be interested in knowing some other good broadcasts across the landscape so I can take a look.

wally_wabash

Quote from: tigerguy on September 24, 2023, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: sigma one on September 24, 2023, 04:58:57 PM
Wabash fb broadcasts are really, really good.  Multiple cameras, replays, graphics.  The cameras are well placed, close to the field, and of high quality.  The announcers have been doing the games for many years, and they are real pros; both work at the College.  The video production is handled entirely by students--and this with no communications program at Wabash.  The SID does a superior job of training the crew.  He works closely with the excellent student bb broadcasters as well.  If you think I am biased, tune in sometime to both the fb and bb feeds.

Just watched some prior Wabash broadcasts. Your descriptions were accurate - their production is also excellent. I amend my proclamation to be that Trinity's broadcast continues to be one of the best in D3! Would still be interested in knowing some other good broadcasts across the landscape so I can take a look.

Lot of really good broadcasts out there now.  Certainly Wabash and Trinity are in the top tier.  Some others that I think do a really good job: North Central, Wheaton, Chapman, St. John's (when you can get it at no cost in the playoffs!), most of the WIACs (though getting to a La Crosse game is wonky through their broadcast partner's website).  Grove City had a good stream though I don't love Vimeo- most have moved away from that platform by now. 

Really there are way more good streams out there now than not.  There seems to have been a lot of standardization of platforms amongst conferences which has really helped raise the baseline quality for streams across the board.  It's pretty rare now that I fire up a game stream and I think it's just flat out bad. 
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BSCpanthers

The SAA has a big weekend ahead with Trinity @ Berry headlining.  For BSC, we really need to rally this weekend, get a win over what should be an over matched Millsaps team at 4pm local time. 

We knew this season would be different after the financial situation of last spring, losing our HC and a few starters from last season.  I don't think we expected this type of fall.  We will punch through this season, obviously taking our lumps and hopefully grow and improve during the season.  What better time to start than 4pm tomorrow afternoon?


tigerguy

Clash of a smash mouth run team (berry) against a stonewall run defense (Trinity). Didn't bode well for Berry last year, as the score didn't reflect the yardage differential. Berry has two stud RBs, but I think they'll need to mix it up in the air to have overall success against Trinity. Hopefully an excellent game. I know most folks (including Hansenratings) have this as less than a one score game. I think Trinity makes this a statement game and win by 10, minimum.

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Quote from: tigerguy on September 29, 2023, 10:05:29 PM
Clash of a smash mouth run team (berry) against a stonewall run defense (Trinity). Didn't bode well for Berry last year, as the score didn't reflect the yardage differential. Berry has two stud RBs, but I think they'll need to mix it up in the air to have overall success against Trinity. Hopefully an excellent game. I know most folks (including Hansenratings) have this as less than a one score game. I think Trinity makes this a statement game and win by 10, minimum.

Yeah, I was thinking along the same lines. I don't think it is nearly as close as some expect. Trinity is a very dominant team and the pass defense has been one of the more impressive things I've seen from the Tigers. They're good in coverage, and Harmel is a real challenge for opposing QBs. So unsure how much Berry will really be able to go to the air. Guessing they'll try to wear that defensive front down but with Trinity's depth, Berry may struggle with that strategy too.
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tigerguy

WOAH! Berry is hitting Trinity in the mouth. Big play after big play, and Trinity has now kicked two FGs with first downs inside the 7. If Trinity can't clean this up quick, this one is going to be too out of hand. Props to Berry for making my opinion look completely foolish so far. They look great.

tigerguy

Calmed down a bit and didn't let it get away from them. Not sure what Urban was doing to end the half, especially knowing you don't get ball back to start. Would have liked to see some more urgency there.

Good news for Trinity is that four of Berry's 24 plays account for 229 of their total 338. You cut those out in the second half and you're dealing with something a lot more manageable. I've been frustrated with Trinity's red zone offense all season, especially near the goal line. It's rearing its head today again. You convert even one of the two drives that stalled within the 5 and the second half starts much more manageable.

Berry has a very strong O-line and their RBs are pounding it.

tigerguy

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL D3 COMMUNICATION DIRECTORS: Please, for the love of God, tell your camera men to watch the game through the lens for those viewing and not for themselves. Missed like 3 TDs so far! I can't tell if we're getting burnt or if these are just amazing throws.

tigerguy

Tyler Huettel at Kicker is an absolute weapon - my goodness. Confirmed that Urban obviously made a massive mistake not going to him for the FG to win it against St. John's.

tigerguy

I'm really struggling with Urban's thought process on Trinity's last play. Why would you not kick a field goal if all you're going to do is hand off? Those 2-3 extra seconds run off the clock would be the same on a field goal - make or miss. But I guess, he's the coach I'm not.

No clue how to evaluate this game. Secondary got completely torched which is what I expected needed to happen for Berry to make this a game. Secondary has always been the weak link of this defense. Due to the bad video coverage, I wasn't able to see what happened. It looked like on at least one, defender might have fallen down, but if guys are getting straight beat that's a problem because Caleb Harmel and the line can't be everwhere. Berry didn't have a score under 35 yards, with scores of 53, 35, 53, 88, and 58 - yikes.

But man oh man was the offense humming. Tucker Horn another fantastic game. At the end of the day, a 9 point win against a clearly top-25 team in Berry should be something to celebrate, but they need to figure out what the heck happened in the secondary today. Would love to see Berry get a pool C. They can do some damage in the playoffs.

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Quote from: tigerguy on September 30, 2023, 03:54:12 PM
I'm really struggling with Urban's thought process on Trinity's last play. Why would you not kick a field goal if all you're going to do is hand off? Those 2-3 extra seconds run off the clock would be the same on a field goal - make or miss. But I guess, he's the coach I'm not.

No clue how to evaluate this game. Secondary got completely torched which is what I expected needed to happen for Berry to make this a game. Secondary has always been the weak link of this defense. Due to the bad video coverage, I wasn't able to see what happened. It looked like on at least one, defender might have fallen down, but if guys are getting straight beat that's a problem because Caleb Harmel and the line can't be everwhere. Berry didn't have a score under 35 yards, with scores of 53, 35, 53, 88, and 58 - yikes.

But man oh man was the offense humming. Tucker Horn another fantastic game. At the end of the day, a 9 point win against a clearly top-25 team in Berry should be something to celebrate, but they need to figure out what the heck happened in the secondary today. Would love to see Berry get a pool C. They can do some damage in the playoffs.

You don't kick a FG because of the possibility of a block, return for TD, and then an onside.   One TD doesn't hurt you with a nine-point lead and 35 seconds to play (and no timeouts) no matter what kind of crazy play they pull out of their *** going for two.  I was wondering why you're handing the ball off instead of just taking a knee given the chance of something crazy happening on the handoff or a tackle.   

I was pretty shook after that simple run off tackle made it 29-13.  Fortunately our men and our coaches are made of sterner stuff, because it took a lot to come back after repeatedly taking on those gut punches in the first 22+ minutes.