SLIAC

jdoug2 · February 24, 2008, 07:56:12 PM

Watched Fontbonne hang 100 on Lincoln Christian yesterday. Fontbonne sank 15 3's. No starter or "regular" played more than 16 minutes. So the 10 of us who came to watch my niece play mainly cheered for the bench. Fontbonne was just hitting wide open shots all game. Lincoln never gave up, but was totally outmatched.

NO RESPECT · February 24, 2008, 11:24:15 PM

Hands down, Sierra Shipley is the Player of the year< Without her Blackburn does not finish 4th in conference. She also should be on the all conference team.

sully309 · February 25, 2008, 04:55:19 AM

Quote from: d3hooper on February 24, 2008, 05:00:12 PM
Very Proud to see Webster come out and win yesterday. I dont know if the refs were bad or if there were just a lot of fouls happening. Never take a win from a team and blame refs. Webster played hard as did Eureka and Webster came out on top. You can blame refs all year long on questionable calls, yesterday one team was more aggressive, the other shot more 3's. Of coarse you will have more fouls called when another team is more agrressive.

Katy Meyer for new comer of the year!!!! Wake up guys

Just for the record, both teams attempted 16 three-pointers. It's doesn't sound like you were at the game, so how would you know whether one team was more aggressive?

This was a hard fought game by both teams. Webster deserved to be rewarded with a win, but then again, I thought Eureka did too. I'm not going to comment on the officiating because I'll probably just get myself in trouble. The facts are there for all to see in the stats. The fouls and free throws don't have to be even. The players and coaches just deserve the game to be called fairly. Blackburn shot 47 free throws to Westminster's 12 Saturday, but it was 45 to 19 in FT's the 1st time they played, so maybe this is just the way those 2 match up.

I think the reaction was the culmination of a lot of frustrations from this season. Eureka has lost 3 games in the final 20 seconds of a game (home vs. Greenville, @ Blackburn, @ Webster) in which a foul called against them directly led to a loss. Maybe the calls were right, maybe they weren't, but it does explain why the frustration has mounted. The technical actually came after an offensive foul on Brandi Payne, which was preceded by Fisher's 5th foul on her offensive foul.

sully309 · February 25, 2008, 05:22:16 AM

Quote from: Coach Dubb on February 23, 2008, 09:50:08 AM
There is no way that Lowe and Shipley should be left off of this list!

I wish I could put them on my list, Coach Dubb, but there's only room for 5. Fisher and Speer should be unanimous selections. Banal of Greenville, in my opinion, is an easy choice for 1st team. She has more steals than turnovers, shoots a high percentage from the field, on threes, and at the line, and is in the top 5 in scoring for a top 3 team in the league.

I think as a potential undefeated champion, Maryville should have some representation on the 1st team, and I think Bergheger is the Saints' best all-around player. McAllister of Fontbonne gets my vote for similar reasons. Her averages are 11.4 ppg and 8 rpg and has decent ast, to, and steal stats.

Shipley doesn't rebound it as well and shoots below 40% from the field. Plus, her assist-to-turnovers are poor. I would put her down as Newcomer of the Year, but I'm personally not even convinced she's the best player on her own team with Polston's presence.

Lowe is an outstanding player as well and leads the league in scoring. But she's only shooting 35% and has an alarming number of turnovers.

I realize you have been very supportive of Brittany Gardner's all-conference candidacy on this board, so I'm not really trying to prove you wrong here, but I offer the following stats as a comparison between the two:

Lowe: 18.5 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.5 apg, 1.9 spg, 35% FG, 35-93 (38%) 3PT, 67% FT, 7.3 TO/game
Gardner: 14.1 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.1 spg, 34% FG, 22-68 (32%) 3PT, 73% FT, 5.1 TO/game

You have to put Lowe above Gardner, but the two are closer than some would think I believe.

Again, I can understand why you would think they should be 1st teamers, and the coaches may end up agreeing with you. But this is why I didn't put them in my top 5.

NO RESPECT · February 25, 2008, 06:04:06 AM

I made a mistake, I did not mean that Shipley should be player of the year, I mean New comer of the year. Excuse me for making that mistake. Player of the year should be Speer or Fisher.

hopefan · February 25, 2008, 12:01:28 PM

Note that neither Bergheger nor Wemlinger played for Maryville on Saturday. Bergheger banged her knee hard vs Webster, Wemlinger has been out several games. 2 good replacements in Douglas and Maines, but the depth falls off noticeably after that.

If the two missing starters are missing for the conference tourney, there is an opportunity for upset.....

jdoug2 · February 25, 2008, 05:33:53 PM

I probably have to agree with eureka-sid for the top 5. My only hesitation would be the game I saw Speer play she didn't do very much. Maryville has to have at least one and McAllister for Fontbonne is a nice choice. Heather really gets after it on both ends of the court.

NO RESPECT · February 27, 2008, 12:37:18 AM

Congrats to Blackburn for finishing the season 4th in the SLIAC. they were selected 8th in the pre-season poll. Nice job by the Blackburn point guard Kasie Wyciskalla on Abby Lowe. Good luck in the tournament vs. Maryville on Friday.

jdoug2 · February 28, 2008, 05:29:12 PM

Ok people, any predictions on the tourney? Does anyone think Maryville can be beaten?

I will make the "unbiased" pick and say Fontbonne plays their best game and takes out Maryville.

HCACBBALL · February 28, 2008, 06:12:28 PM

With Bergheger and Wemlinger playing on Tuesday I do not see there is any possible way that Maryville does not win the tourney. I hope for some good games but realistically their depth with those two is tough to overcome. I am going to call for a Maryville/Greenville Championship game and Maryville moving on to the National Tourney. I hope they can make some noise.

thenatural13 · February 28, 2008, 06:50:24 PM

Dont get me wrong, Maryville does have a deep bench and basically makes hockey like line changes.... however this is the year where the unbeaten choke. EXAMPLE: PATRIOTS..... need i say more. Im hoping for a major first round upset. LETS GO BLACKBURN!

HCACBBALL · February 28, 2008, 07:07:07 PM

Coach Williams has done a good job at Blackburn but I do not think that will happen. Good luck on that one. Without Wemlinger they may have a shot but she had 17 on Tuesday and will be ready to go tomorrow. But this is why we play the game. The great thing about the tourney is that all teams involved are 0-0 and you win you keep playing; you lose you go home!

NO RESPECT · February 28, 2008, 08:09:20 PM

"A hockey line change" what a great quote. I guess Blackburn will tag in, as the wrestlers do in the WWF....Good luck to all, may the best women win.

thenatural13 · February 28, 2008, 09:52:57 PM

You can praise Maryville all you want, all i am saying is its time for a change. that starts one step at a time no matter who the next opponent is wether it be blackburn, fontbonne or even lincoln christian (Yes, i realize they're no longer in the conference).

HCACBBALL · February 28, 2008, 09:59:07 PM

It is time for a change but I am sorry to say that change does not happen this year. There is a lot of new blood in this conference and if I was Maryville I would be aware of that. But this year they have no match. Good Luck to the Beavers!!!! you will need it.