FB: Massachusetts State College Athletic Conference

[d3fan142511]

2-0 ECFC vs Mascac

[dlippiel]

West Conn looked better than expected today scrimmaging Union. They have some size and more athleticism than dlip thought they would. Dlip thinks they'll have a good year in this league. Best of luck to West Conn.

[ECoastFootball]

2-0 ECFC vs Mascac

While a "cute" stat, realize which teams are playing. The ecfc came out victorious against the bottom 3 teams in the MASCAC. For the second straight year your top team barely snuck out a win against one of the worst teams in the MASCAC. I honestly think the leagues aren't even close. Framingham could probably beat the ecfc all conference team.

[pumkinattack]

Oh snap!  We've gots ourselves and ECFC/MASCAC throws on!

Gentleman, start your engines....

[d3fan142511]

3-1 first weekend overall. I really do not think the ECFC is worse then the MASCAC.  Also Westfield lost to Nichols who has been one of the worse programs in New England last three years. Also SUNY Maritime smoked Western Conn the last two years if I am not mistaken.  I agree Framingham is above every team from both conference but beside that the conference is not really that strong.

[Yanks 99]

Oh snap!  We've gots ourselves and ECFC/MASCAC throws on!

Gentleman, start your engines....

Hahaha...nice...+k...

In all honesty, I thought it would be at least Week #3 before we started seeing arguments over who was NOT the worst conference in the country (between the ECFC and the MASCAC)...

[ECoastFootball]

3-1 first weekend overall. I really do not think the ECFC is worse then the MASCAC.  Also Westfield lost to Nichols who has been one of the worse programs in New England last three years. Also SUNY Maritime smoked Western Conn the last two years if I am not mistaken.  I agree Framingham is above every team from both conference but beside that the conference is not really that strong.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but having seen both conferences live, I don't think they are very close. I have friends who coach in both leagues, the MASCAC guys are pretty modest and don't talk themselves up much, but the ECFC guys to a man have said they do not think their league is as strong.

The MASCAC teams that lost to the ECFC will finish in the 3 bottom slots in the MASCAC, period. I think it says it all that last year IDA won the ECFC and barely squeaked out a win over a 1-9 UMD team. This year Ida is predicted to win the ECFC again, and they beat UMD 21-20 on UMD's THREE missed PAT's. UMD is picked to go last in the MASCAC again.

IMHO, Framingham, Bridgewater, Worcester and Maritime would all win the ECFC this year.

[Jonny Utah]

3-1 first weekend overall. I really do not think the ECFC is worse then the MASCAC.  Also Westfield lost to Nichols who has been one of the worse programs in New England last three years. Also SUNY Maritime smoked Western Conn the last two years if I am not mistaken.  I agree Framingham is above every team from both conference but beside that the conference is not really that strong.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but having seen both conferences live, I don't think they are very close. I have friends who coach in both leagues, the MASCAC guys are pretty modest and don't talk themselves up much, but the ECFC guys to a man have said they do not think their league is as strong.

The MASCAC teams that lost to the ECFC will finish in the 3 bottom slots in the MASCAC, period. I think it says it all that last year IDA won the ECFC and barely squeaked out a win over a 1-9 UMD team. This year Ida is predicted to win the ECFC again, and they beat UMD 21-20 on UMD's THREE missed PAT's. UMD is picked to go last in the MASCAC again.

IMHO, Framingham, Bridgewater, Worcester and Maritime would all win the ECFC this year.

The ECFC took a step down last year, but Mt. Ida also hung with Endicott 2 years ago when Mt. Ida was the 3rd place team and Charles thought Endicott's **** didn't stink.  And Mt. Ida actually lost to UMD that year.

But I don't think you can argue that the MASCAC/NEFC is better than the ECFC from top to bottom.

[ECoastFootball]

Speaking of Endicott, they took it on the chin this weekend from Framingham.

And ya, UMD actually beat a few teams that year, went 5-4 I think. Terrible year last year, will be interesting to see if they got any better. Maybe their loss to Ida by 1 isn't a slight to Ida, maybe they are much improved?

[D3MAFAN]

Speaking of Endicott, they took it on the chin this weekend from Framingham.

And ya, UMD actually beat a few teams that year, went 5-4 I think. Terrible year last year, will be interesting to see if they got any better. Maybe their loss to Ida by 1 isn't a slight to Ida, maybe they are much improved?

Framingham States finally beats Endicott, took five years. I think this week is going to be very interesting for the RAMS, Rowan is going to be furious, especially after their fourth quarter performance against Delaware Valley. I think that the Rams can't have a slow start, they have to be ready every play, can't give up the big play.

[dlippiel]

Dlip thinks this game is HUGE for the Profs...HUGE. dlip is still for some reason hung up on the Profs of yesteryear. He has watched this team and program battle with hopes of returning to it's days of East Region "Beast of the East" dominance for the past decade and more. There have been some highs, lows, and everything in between. Dlip will say this, if the Profs lose on Saturday it will be an all time low for these owl heads. To dlip it does not matter how good Framingham is, it is the fact that an NEFC team defeating Rowan used to be such an impossibility that to dlip, maybe because he has been around D3 football for so long, a loss would be brutal for Rowan football.

...or maybe dlip just needs to give it up and move on.

[dlippiel]

...he means a former NEFC team. ****ing phone makes it impossible to edit a post. Piece of ****!

[D3MAFAN]

...he means a former NEFC team. ****ing phone makes it impossible to edit a post. Piece of ****!

If Rowan loses to the Rams, it would be a shock to Rowan and may be detrimental to the program success, especially with all the hype around the team after making the playoffs last year. However, if the Rams do beat the Profs, I think it can only benefit the East. We can at least get back and say our small East conferences have credible teams that can compete with the big boys. As the saying goes, you are only stronger than your weakest link and if you look around the nation, the perception is that the East weakess links are the worst of all.

[Yanks 99]

...he means a former NEFC team. ****ing phone makes it impossible to edit a post. Piece of ****!

If Rowan loses to the Rams, it would be a shock to Rowan and may be detrimental to the program success, especially with all the hype around the team after making the playoffs last year. However, if the Rams do beat the Profs, I think it can only benefit the East. We can at least get back and say our small East conferences have credible teams that can compete with the big boys. As the saying goes, you are only stronger than your weakest link and if you look around the nation, the perception is that the East weakess links are the worst of all.

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I agree with this...it is because of the NEFC, the ECFC, and the MASCAC.  Our upper echelon teams that have made deep runs in the playoffs are as good as any other teams out there and usually go far enough in the playoffs until they run into the normal MUC's, UWW's, or a small handful of other teams in the quarters.

When you are looking at the "East" as a whole two years from now and 3 auto bids are coming from the NEFC, ECFC, and the MASCAC...that is arguably 3 of the 5 worst conferences in the country that based on geographical location are almost always staying in the "East" region.  Not always...the NCAA committee every once in a while finds their balls and does the right thing and simply tries to find the best teams in the country for the playoffs (ie...two years ago with St. John Fisher)..but most of the time they are lazy as hell and they don't (ie... Bridgewater getting the Pool C bid last year...which was ridiculous).

The perception of the "East" as being the weakest, at least to me, stems from two things:  First...from getting on a 5-6 year run where MUC was sent to our region, therefore essentially eliminating any chance of our top teams getting to the Final 4 and playing other "top" tier regional teams not named MUC.  Second...the NEFC and the addition of the ECFC and the MASCAC.  Simply put, when one region essentially has three conferences that are this weak where geographically they are almost exclusively locked in to playing in the same region...it just looks bad.  NEFC is 2-16 in the playoffs all time (losing by about 3 TD's per game on average).  The ECFC champ has gotten their doors blown off the past two seasons.  The MASCAC is not going to fair much better.

[d3fan142511]

Predictions for week 2

Suny Martime 24
Mass Maritime 21

West Conn 28
Nicholls 24

Worcester St 35
WPI 21

WNEC 42
Westfield St 14

WP 31
Bridgewater 24

Fitchburg 24
Curry 34

Framingham 31
Rowan 28

Pymouth 13
Mount Ida 21