BB: Top Teams in West Region

Started by CrashDavisD3, February 20, 2012, 08:23:11 PM

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ILVBB

Crash - this may be the year that the west only gets 4-5 teams with a team from another region being imported. Other than Trinity, no team is building a "convincing" record to ensure a Pool C bid. Everyone has to fly to Portland (except the NW team). It would be just as easy to put a team on a plane from say Chicago, Pittsburg, etc.


CrashDavisD3

Quote from: ILVBB on April 02, 2012, 11:16:04 AM
Crash - this may be the year that the west only gets 4-5 teams with a team from another region being imported. Other than Trinity, no team is building a "convincing" record to ensure a Pool C bid. Everyone has to fly to Portland (except the NW team). It would be just as easy to put a team on a plane from say Chicago, Pittsburg, etc.

You could be right. 1 team from SCIAC, 1 from SCAC, 1 from NWC and 2 from ASC. That would leave a Pool C open from another region to fly in. There are no real strong Pool C coming from SCIAC, SCAC, or NWC unless Trinity loses in the SCAC conference tourney.
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 01, 2012, 11:20:14 PM
SCAC - Trinity(23-3)
SCIAC - Cal Lutheran(19-8) La Verne(19-10)
ASC - Concordia-Texas(24-6) Texas-Tyler 21-7)
NWC -  Linfield(15-7) Pacific Lutheran(17-8) Pacific(11-9)

I see SCAC getting 1 team, SCIAC 2, ASC 2 and NWC 1 for the West Regionals
My problem with UT-Tyler is that they lost 2 of 3 to Concordia-Texas and UT-Dallas.

They have a loss to Hendrix but a win over TLU.  There is not much left on the schedule, (except a series against Centenary), to make a case for a quality team.

CrashDavisD3

Through games of Sunday, April 1 From TOP 25
#    
1  Trinity-TX   23-3    
13 Concordia-TX   24-6
19 Linfield    15-7
23 Texas-Tyler    21-7


Also receiving votes: Texas-Dallas 3, Pacific Lutheran 3, Cal Lutheran 1.

Is it possible that 3 Texas teams could make it to the West Regional. 1 from CA and 1 from the NW and 1 from outside the Region.
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BamColt

Concordia still doesn't crack the top 10. Maybe at 40 wins they get in. Trinity still playing lights out and Tyler jumps back in. Yes I agree, a Texas team needs to get back to Fox Cities and having three teams from Texas in the regional helps those chances.

playball

What is the consensus about Linfield's chances of making playoffs if they don't win the NWC?

tigerfan_2001

Quote from: BamColt on April 03, 2012, 11:26:59 AM
Concordia still doesn't crack the top 10. Maybe at 40 wins they get in. Trinity still playing lights out and Tyler jumps back in. Yes I agree, a Texas team needs to get back to Fox Cities and having three teams from Texas in the regional helps those chances.
I dont think UT TYler gets in if they dont win the ASC tournament.  They are at 7 losses already and not winning the tourney would put them at 9 losses.  9 losses puts them on the edge with regards to pool C bids.  The loss to Hendrix in game two of the year could come back to haunt them

BigPoppa

Quote from: playball on April 03, 2012, 11:59:35 AM
What is the consensus about Linfield's chances of making playoffs if they don't win the NWC?

There is still too much ball to be played to make an accurate assessment. They are also affected by outcomes of other teams in the West Region.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: BamColt on April 03, 2012, 11:26:59 AM
Concordia still doesn't crack the top 10. Maybe at 40 wins they get in. Trinity still playing lights out and Tyler jumps back in. Yes I agree, a Texas team needs to get back to Fox Cities and having three teams from Texas in the regional helps those chances.

Look at the To 25 this way.

Rank      Team                                  Region

# School (1st votes) Rec Pts Prev.
1 Trinity (Texas) (16) 23-3 604 1                               West      --  #1
2 Marietta (9) 14-3 599 2                                          Mideast -- #1
3 Christopher Newport 22-4 584 3                               South  -- #1
4 Salisbury 20-4 542 5                                              South  -- #2
5 Eastern Connecticut 13-3 450 8                               Northeast -- #1
6 Kean 15-6 435 4                                                    Mid-Atlantic  #1
7 St. Thomas 14-4 387 13                                          Midwest -- #1
8 UW-Stevens Point 10-4 370 9                                  Midwest --  #2
9 Rowan 15-5 358 11                                                Mid-Atlantic #2
10 Wheaton (Mass.) 15-3 355 7                                  Northeast -- #2
11 Keystone 12-4 347 10                                           Mid-Atlantic -- #3
12 Misericordia 20-3 312 12                                        MId-Atlantic -- #4
13 Concordia (Texas) 24-6 302 17                               West           -- #2
14 DePauw 23-3 300 21                                             Mideast       -- #2
15 Adrian 14-4 286 16                                               Mideast        -- #3
16 Piedmont 20-9 281 6                                            South --  #3


The MId-Atlantic is a big region (almost twice as big as the West) with lots of teams.

Look which regions are missing... The Central, home of the 2010 champion, and the tiny litte New York Region.

The other thing that throws off the casual observer is the constant exposure of BCS fans to the Football Top 25 which ranks the best teams from the 120-odd football teams.

We have nearly three times as many D-III teams that are playing baseball.  The BSC Top 25 is like our Top75, which means that there are another 25 teams who are "as good as" #25 in the BSC Football Top 25 who are not even getting votes in the D3Baseball.com poll.

Ron Boerger

Looks like there will be a new #1 next week as Hardin-Simmons dealt Ben Klimesh (9-1) his first defeat today, 3-2.   Tied at 2, the Cowboys strung together a leadoff walk and three singles to score the winning run.   James Simmons (3-1) pitched two innings of no-hit relief as the Tigers were held to four hits overall. 

tigerfan_2001

Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 03, 2012, 04:27:16 PM
Looks like there will be a new #1 next week as Hardin-Simmons dealt Ben Klimesh (9-1) his first defeat today, 3-2.   Tied at 2, the Cowboys strung together a leadoff walk and three singles to score the winning run.   James Simmons (3-1) pitched two innings of no-hit relief as the Tigers were held to four hits overall.
Tiger bats looked very bad today.  Hopefully they bounce back in game two and then show up for the Southwestern series.

Ron Boerger

Trinity takes the second, 5-1, with Ryan Lucero improving to 8-0 with another complete game.  In seven innings, Lucero allowed no earned runs, four hits, and struck out at least eight (the live stats froze after the second out).   Nick Pappas had two hits and three RBI for the Tigers (24-4), who committed three errors in the game, one of which led to HSU's only run.     

forheavendial4999

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 03, 2012, 01:42:06 AM
Through games of Sunday, April 1 From TOP 25
#    
1  Trinity-TX   23-3    
13 Concordia-TX   24-6
19 Linfield    15-7
23 Texas-Tyler    21-7


Also receiving votes: Texas-Dallas 3, Pacific Lutheran 3, Cal Lutheran 1.

Is it possible that 3 Texas teams could make it to the West Regional. 1 from CA and 1 from the NW and 1 from outside the Region.

In spite of the poll, I don't think Linfield and Tyler are likely to be 3 and 4 in the regional rankings. Linfield could be 3rd if they sweep this weekend. But Texas Lutheran, Pac Lutheran and UT-Dallas all I would think would be considered in the same class as Tyler. I would think as long as Pac Lu is ahead of Linfield if they stay ahead of them in the NWC after this weekend. UT-Dallas also has played a tougher schedule than Tyler.

forheavendial4999

Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 03, 2012, 04:27:16 PM
Looks like there will be a new #1 next week 

Wouldn't be so sure. Marietta trails 6-3 with Mount Union batting in the 7th. MC is throwing their 3 and 4 guys today but that isn't very likely to be considered.

Jack Parkman



Team   Conference   In-Region   Winning %
Trinity   SCAC   21-2   0.913
Pacific   NWC   11-2.   0.846
Concordia-TX   ASC   24-6   0.8
PLU   NWC   15-5   0.75
Cal Lutheran   SCIAC   17-6   0.739
Linfield   NWC   16-6   0.727
McMurry    ASC   15-6   0.714
La Verne   SCIAC   18-8   0.692
Texas Lutheran   ASC   15-7   0.682
Whitworth   NWC   14-6-1   0.666
UT-Dallas   ASC   19-10   0.655
UT-Tyler   ASC   15-7   0.655
Occidental   SCIAC   15-9   0.625
Hendrix   SCAC   13-9   0.619
George Fox   NWC   14-9   0.608
Pomona-Pitzer   SCIAC   14-10   0.583
Dallas   SCAC   13-11   0.541
Hardin-Simmons   ASC   10-9.   0.526
Mississippi Col.   ASC   11-10.   0.523
UMHB   ASC   12-13.   0.48
LA College   ASC   8-9.   0.47
Claremont   SCIAC   11-13)   0.458
Chapman   SCIAC*   10-12)   0.454
Redlands   SCIAC   9-11.   0.45
Whittier   SCIAC   11-14.   0.44
ETBU   ASC   8-15.   0.347
LeTourneau   ASC   8-16.   0.333
Willamette   NWC   5-10.   0.333
Howard Payne   ASC   7-15.   0.318
Southwestern   SCAC   7-18.   0.28
Ozarks   ASC   5-16.   0.238
Austin   SCAC   (5-18   0.217
Whitman   NWC   4-15.   0.21
Schreiner   ASC   5-20.   0.2
Sul Ross St.   ASC   5-20.   0.2
Lewis & Clark   NWC   4-17.   0.19
Puget Sound   NWC   3-16-1.   0.15
Cal Tech   SCIAC   0-18   0

I am sorry about the format but this is the "standings" for the region.  Obviously this is just straight wins and losses and no opponents strength of schedule and all that is considered.  Weird to see some teams like Pacific with only 13 in-region games while Concordia has played every single game in-region.