BB: Top Teams in West Region

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tony_baldwin

Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 21, 2017, 12:21:11 AM
(Agree an enjoyable place to watch a game and likely place for the SCAC championships)

SCAC Championships are set for neutral site this year - Grand Prairie at the AirHogs Stadium.

SoCalSoxFan

Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 21, 2017, 12:47:54 PM
General Observation between last weeks rankings and this weeks...

School                  Rank (LW)   Total Votes (LW)    Weeks Record    SOS
UT Tyler-               6th (5)        511  (474)             3-1                    136
UT Dallas-            14th (14)     271  (258)             3-1                    181
Centenary-           15th (RV)    259 (60)                3-0                    128
Pacific Lutheran-  18th (12)     188 (265)             2-2                     195

Receiving Votes
School                  Total Votes (LW)    Weeks Record    SOS
OXY-                    45 votes (16)         1-2                     207
Texas Lutheran-   21 votes (0)           4-0                     80
Chapman-            18 votes (15)         1-0                     170
Cal Lu-                 15 votes (0)           4-0                     40
La Verne-             11 votes (3)           1-2                    157
Concordia (TX)-   6 votes (0)             3-1                    118
Willamette-           2 votes (0)             2-2                    162

Some interesting items above....

JP, is Cal Lu SOS of 40 for the week?  or did their YTD go from 75 to 40 in one week?

2 of victories were Regional games, Whittier (non-conf) and Williamette;  2 victories were non-Regional vs Berry (Ga),   Today they play Non-Regional Williams; and later this year they have 5 Regional games vs NWC teams.    They are definitely focused on improving SOS and Regional rankings

Jack Parkman

Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 21, 2017, 03:52:19 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 21, 2017, 12:47:54 PM
General Observation between last weeks rankings and this weeks...

School                  Rank (LW)   Total Votes (LW)    Weeks Record    SOS
UT Tyler-               6th (5)        511  (474)             3-1                    136
UT Dallas-            14th (14)     271  (258)             3-1                    181
Centenary-           15th (RV)    259 (60)                3-0                    128
Pacific Lutheran-  18th (12)     188 (265)             2-2                     195

Receiving Votes
School                  Total Votes (LW)    Weeks Record    SOS
OXY-                    45 votes (16)         1-2                     207
Texas Lutheran-   21 votes (0)           4-0                     80
Chapman-            18 votes (15)         1-0                     170
Cal Lu-                 15 votes (0)           4-0                     40
La Verne-             11 votes (3)           1-2                    157
Concordia (TX)-   6 votes (0)             3-1                    118
Willamette-           2 votes (0)             2-2                    162

Some interesting items above....

JP, is Cal Lu SOS of 40 for the week?  or did their YTD go from 75 to 40 in one week?

2 of victories were Regional games, Whittier (non-conf) and Williamette;  2 victories were non-Regional vs Berry (Ga),   Today they play Non-Regional Williams; and later this year they have 5 Regional games vs NWC teams.    They are definitely focused on improving SOS and Regional rankings

It went from 75-40 in one week.  the SOS will change on a daily basis from here out due to teams finally playing games. 

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 21, 2017, 04:37:21 PM
Quote from: SoCalSoxFan on March 21, 2017, 03:52:19 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 21, 2017, 12:47:54 PM
General Observation between last weeks rankings and this weeks...

School                  Rank (LW)   Total Votes (LW)    Weeks Record    SOS
UT Tyler-               6th (5)        511  (474)             3-1                    136
UT Dallas-            14th (14)     271  (258)             3-1                    181
Centenary-           15th (RV)    259 (60)                3-0                    128
Pacific Lutheran-  18th (12)     188 (265)             2-2                     195

Receiving Votes
School                  Total Votes (LW)    Weeks Record    SOS
OXY-                    45 votes (16)         1-2                     207
Texas Lutheran-   21 votes (0)           4-0                     80
Chapman-            18 votes (15)         1-0                     170
Cal Lu-                 15 votes (0)           4-0                     40
La Verne-             11 votes (3)           1-2                    157
Concordia (TX)-   6 votes (0)             3-1                    118
Willamette-           2 votes (0)             2-2                    162

Some interesting items above....

JP, is Cal Lu SOS of 40 for the week?  or did their YTD go from 75 to 40 in one week?

2 of victories were Regional games, Whittier (non-conf) and Williamette;  2 victories were non-Regional vs Berry (Ga),   Today they play Non-Regional Williams; and later this year they have 5 Regional games vs NWC teams.    They are definitely focused on improving SOS and Regional rankings

It went from 75-40 in one week.  the SOS will change on a daily basis from here out due to teams finally playing games.
Of course there are more than 350 teams in D-3. That is only a move of 10%. Kinda like moving from the end of one peloton to the front, but a whole 'nother set are riders are ahead of you.

My thought about the SCIAC is that voters kinda have this idea that the best team in a well-balance conference like the SCIAC ought to be in the Top 21-30 range. 21 gets you 5 votes. 26th gets you none.

Ralph Turner

Great game in Tyler tonight.

Centenary 6, UT-Tyler 5.

Cole Lavergne came on in the 3rd innings and shut down Tyler until the 9th, giving up 1 run in 6.1 innings.


http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2017/boxscores/20170321_bsr8.xml

Playoff baseball!

108 Stitches

Type of game you would expect from two top 20 teams. Helps build the reputation of Centenary. Their true test comes in three weeks vs TLU, which will likely set the SCAC tournament seeding. The Trinity series should give them a minor test (*sigh*) as Trinity will be tough at home even though they stink this year. (historically speaking) I noticed TT made three errors but none resulted in runs.

TexasBB

These mid-week games you where a team needs to build/find its #4 and #5 starters.  They are also used to get the bullpen work in game situations. Miles Thomas for Tyler had his first start of the year and did well working 4 innings, facing a total of 17 batters and allowing only 2 hits and 1 walk.  However, the bullpen was mixed bag. Tyler used a total of 6 pitchers, with 5 in relief. Three of those allowed no runs and 2 allowed 5 runs. No reliever worked more than 2 innings.  Centenary on the other hand used only 3 pitchers and one went 6 1/3 innings. So the philosophy of how to use your staff in a mid-weak game was different.

Ralph Turner

#2002
The winner was their closer. He shut down Trinity UT-Tyler,  while Centenary got back into the game.
Strategically, Centenary needed to win this game.
They have a weak non-conference schedule.
The Occidental and/or LaVerne wins might help them.
This ties them head-to-head with (IMHO) another regionally ranked team UT-Tyler, come May.



+1! to 108 stitches for proofreading!

108 Stitches

I think you meant TT, not Trinity, but I agree with you Ralph, Centenary needed this game, however; at this point I don't see a team out of the West going to Regionals unless they win their conference. TT probably has a chance, due to the fact that they are hosting, but Centenary's SOS is so weak I don't see them getting in if they don't win the SCAC. We just don't have a dominant team like the previous Linfield's, Trinity's or CLU's from past years.

SoCalSoxFan

This weeks updated Top 25:


March 28, 2017
2017 D3baseball.com/NCBWA Top 25, week 5
Through games of Sunday March 26, 2017

#
School (1st votes)   Rec   Pts   Prev.
1   Shenandoah (16)   18-1   606   1
2   Cortland (3)   16-3   585   2
3   LaGrange (5)   26-2   569   5
4   UW-Whitewater (1)   9-1   552   4
5   Birmingham-Southern   19-5   489   7
6   Wooster   10-1   479   8
7   Texas-Tyler   21-4   466   6
8   Centenary (La.)   23-3   402   15
9   Tufts   8-1   395   10
10   Emory   19-7   378   3
11   UW-La Crosse   8-3   343   11
12   Randolph-Macon   15-5   340   9
13   Oswego State   12-4   332   12
14   Texas-Dallas   18-4   308   14
15   Augustana   14-2   229   16
16   TCNJ   10-3   219   17
17   Pacific Lutheran   16-5   214   18
18   Alvernia   14-2   212   19
19   Johns Hopkins   13-5   194   13
20   Otterbein   14-4   144   21
21   Roanoke   17-7   57   20
22   Cal Lutheran   14-6   50   rv
23   Washington and Jefferson   8-2   45   rv
24   St. John Fisher   7-5   43   23
25   Kean   12-7   37   25
Dropped out: No. 22. Western New England, No. 24 Ramapo.

Others receiving votes: Catholic 36, La Roche 35, Bethel (Minn.) 33, Salisbury 32, Occidental 32, Chapman 30, Salve Regina 27, Washington (Mo.) 23, Adrian 19, Southern Maine 19, Saint Joseph's (Maine), Eastern Connecticut State 16, Rowan 14, Western New England 13, Denison 12, Texas Lutheran 11, Christopher Newport 9, Concordia-Chicago 8, Keystone 7, UW-Oshkosh 5, Webster 3, Clark 3, Mass.-Boston 2, DePauw 1, Marietta 1, Misericordia 1, Washington and Lee 1, Wheaton (Ill.) 1.

The D3baseball.com Top 25 is voted on by a panel of 25 Sports Information Directors and media members from across the country, and is published weekly. Full members of NCAA Division III are eligible.

TexasBB

Centenary and UT-Tyler will play a final tie-breaker game at Centenary (Shreveport, LA) on Tuesday April 11. This of course is a non-conference mid-week game so both teams should be using their #4 and/or #5 starters. These teams based on record and ranking, appear to be the top two in the region. Regional rankings of course are not due for a while, so things can and likely will change. However, they are both in the top 10 nationally according to the latest poll.

SoCalBaseballfan

1-Texas-Tyler  25-4
2-Centenary 24-5
3-Texas-Dallas 20-5
4-Cal Lutheran 18-6
5-Pacific Lutheran 17-7

SoCalSoxFan

2017 D3baseball.com/NCBWA Top 25, week 6
Through games of Sunday April 2, 2017

#   School (1st votes)   Rec   Pts   Prev.
1   Shenandoah (23)   22-1   622   1
2   LaGrange (2)   29-3   581   3
3   Birmingham-Southern   23-5   577   5
4   UW-Whitewater   10-2   535   4
5   Texas-Tyler   25-4   518   7
6   Cortland   18-5   509   2
7   Wooster   13-3   435   6
8   Tufts   11-2   424   9
9   Oswego State   12-4   350   13
10   Centenary (La.)   24-5   337   8
11   Alvernia   17-2-1   334   18
12   Texas-Dallas   20-5   314   14
13   Johns Hopkins   16-5   289   19
14   Augustana   17-3   280   15
15   UW-La Crosse   10-5   270   11
16   Randolph-Macon   17-7   236   12
17   TCNJ   12-5   183   16
18   Washington U.   16-5   175   rv
19   Cal Lutheran   18-6   141   22
20   Otterbein   16-5   115   20
21   Washington and Jefferson 12-3 112   23
22   Salisbury   20-7   87   rv
23   Christopher Newport   22-9   84   rv
24   Emory   19-11   80   10
25   Bethel   17-3   71   rv
Dropped out:No. 17 Pacific Lutheran,  No. 21 Roanoke, No. 24 St, John Fisher, and No. 25 Kean.

Others receiving votes: La Roche 52, St. John Fisher 50, Denison 43, Washington and Lee 36, St. Joseph's (Maine) 34, Pacific Lutheran 34, Kean 31, Salve Regina 26, Occidental 26, Catholic 17, Mount Union 16 Adrian 16, Roanoke 13, Eastern Connecticut State 10, St. Scholastica 10, DePauw 9, Keystone 8, Concordia-Chicago 6, Webster 6, Southern Maine 5, Widener 5, Rowan 3, Texas Lutheran 3, Clark 2, Willamette 2, Marietta 1, UMass.-Boston 1, Wesleyan (Conn.) 1.

Jack Parkman

I was looking through all of the different D3 Polls and just thought I would throw then on here for comparison.  I looked at the D3.com poll and compared them from there.

                   D3.com         Massey       Boyds        Perfect Game       ABCA      D3.com SOS
UT Tyler       5                   5                 6                8                         3               148
Centenary    10                7                  13              6                         7               184
UT Dallas     12                 15               12              16                       10             223
Cal Lu          19                 4                 3                Not Ranked         13             35
PLU             34 votes        11               11              23                       25             192
Oxy             26 votes        48               43              13                       21             172
TLU             3 votes          47               58              Not Ranked         33 votes   187
Willamette   2 votes          18               19              24                       13 votes    169

Linfield, Chapman, Whitworth and Concordia (TX) were all mentioned in at least one of these polls.  I honestly don't know what to make of any of this but I thought it was interesting to see how different each publication saw each school.  Either way, there are good races in all 4 West conferences and I am looking forward to seeing who comes out on top and who will be in Tyler next month.

108 Stitches

Nicely done...even the formatting. +1
I prefer Massy once enough games get completed as it is a analytical model and not influence by opinions.