BB: Top Teams in West Region

[forheavendial4999]

Trinity had a walk and HBP in their 2-run 7th also. Doesn't seem like either team played all that well.

[Jack Parkman]

Klimesh did not have his best stuff but gutted out a win vs a very aggressive Hendrix club in game 1.

TU won game 2 on a wild one 10-9, 14-15 hits a piece. Lucero went out with an arm injury in the 4th. Bentz gets the win with freshmen Speers the save. Hendrix is a very aggressive team that never gives up, really liked the way they were coached.

TU kept getting runs and then the bottom half Hendrix would match them.

TBD on Lucero, this could not be good for TU if it is serious.

I know nothing about this program but thought the HC made a bad choice intentionally walking the go-ahead run in the top of the 7th with 1 out.  Many will probably think it was a good "strategy move" but it obviously backfired.  I don't see giving free passes to a team thats down is a good idea.

[infielddad]

Trinity had a walk and HBP in their 2-run 7th also. Doesn't seem like either team played all that well.

Yesterday, Oregon scored 2 runs against Stanford on a walk, bunt single, HBP, walk, past ball.
Isn't the way you posted also  the way the game gets played, sometimes, even at the top levels of college baseball?
When a team gives you base runners, you make the best of it. As Jack P noted, an intentional walk to the winning run could be questioned, but they still need to score.
As Oregon shows, good teams make others pay for mistakes.

[108 Stitches]

Trinity sweeps Hendrix; wins today 9-8.

Jack, probably 8of10 coaches would have done the same thing. There was one out, runners on second and third, the best hitter on the team and one of the top in the conference was coming up and already had two hard hit doubles to the fences, the batter behind him was struggling a bit, so he sets up a double play to get out of the inning. It did not work out, but I would guess the Hendrix coach would do the same thing again given the circumstances.

Heaven, yeah all games that have a walk and a HBP are poorly played. LOL.

Hendrix is one tough team to beat at home; they were 13-1 coming into this weekend and all three games were one run dogfights. The Hendrix players are aggressive with their bats, they can hit, they are also aggressive on the base path, steals, hit n runs, bunts. A fundamentally sound team IMO.

Trinity got to work through some guys who had not pitched a lot and Franklin Bay got the win and pitched 5 solid innings in relief, Barron got the save. There were 13 total runs scored in the first two wild innings until order was restored by both teams.

I am hoping all of the players and their families are safe in the wild mid west. I often wonder how northern teams with compressed schedules make up weather cancelled games, it must be very tough on them. Have a safe evening up there.

[Jack Parkman]

Trinity sweeps Hendrix; wins today 9-8.

Jack, probably 8of10 coaches would have done the same thing. There was one out, runners on second and third, the best hitter on the team and one of the top in the conference was coming up and already had two hard hit doubles to the fences, the batter behind him was struggling a bit, so he sets up a double play to get out of the inning. It did not work out, but I would guess the Hendrix coach would do the same thing again given the circumstances.

Heaven, yeah all games that have a walk and a HBP are poorly played. LOL.

Hendrix is one tough team to beat at home; they were 13-1 coming into this weekend and all three games were one run dogfights. The Hendrix players are aggressive with their bats, they can hit, they are also aggressive on the base path, steals, hit n runs, bunts. A fundamentally sound team IMO.

Trinity got to work through some guys who had not pitched a lot and Franklin Bay got the win and pitched 5 solid innings in relief, Barron got the save. There were 13 total runs scored in the first two wild innings until order was restored by both teams.

I am hoping all of the players and their families are safe in the wild mid west. I often wonder how northern teams with compressed schedules make up weather cancelled games, it must be very tough on them. Have a safe evening up there.

I hear what you are saying but thought it was a bad call.  Just one mans opinion.  Also, there was only a man on 2nd, not that it really mattered.

[forheavendial4999]

Once again the rabbit ears come out where Trinity's concerned.

3 one-run wins against a team without a prayer of a Pool C berth is surely evidence that Trinity is awesome. Get over yourselves.

The previous poster said Klimesh was his own worst enemy because of walks and HBPs. Doesn't sound like a very clean game from him. He also committed and error but Hendrix left the bases loaded in the first inning.

Hendrix took the early lead on an unearned run.

In Trinity's two run 5th there was a walk, HBP and a balk. Surely the signs of well played baseball.

Hendrix got 3 back in an inning that was kindled by a walk and a HBP.

And finally, Trinity's decisive seventh featured...oh yes...again, a walk and an HBP to get it started.

Trinity tried to give it back with two walks and a balk in the bottom of the 7th, but were foiled at their attempt to hand victory to Hendrix with the line drive double play...just how they drew it up I'm sure.

So...anyone want to argue now that this sure seems for all the world like a sloppy game?

Trinity is now 8-2 in one-run games after this series. Hard to keep up that kind of record...one might wonder if they used up their good fortune this weekend.

[infielddad]

Once again the rabbit ears come out where Trinity's concerned.

3 one-run wins against a team without a prayer of a Pool C berth is surely evidence that Trinity is awesome. Get over yourselves.

The previous poster said Klimesh was his own worst enemy because of walks and HBPs. Doesn't sound like a very clean game from him. He also committed and error but Hendrix left the bases loaded in the first inning.

Hendrix took the early lead on an unearned run.

In Trinity's two run 5th there was a walk, HBP and a balk. Surely the signs of well played baseball.

Hendrix got 3 back in an inning that was kindled by a walk and a HBP.

And finally, Trinity's decisive seventh featured...oh yes...again, a walk and an HBP to get it started.

Trinity tried to give it back with two walks and a balk in the bottom of the 7th, but were foiled at their attempt to hand victory to Hendrix with the line drive double play...just how they drew it up I'm sure.

So...anyone want to argue now that this sure seems for all the world like a sloppy game?

Trinity is now 8-2 in one-run games after this series. Hard to keep up that kind of record...one might wonder if they used up their good fortune this weekend.

Some of your comments, like some included in these recent posts, border on being  so ridiculous.
Every team which reaches a Regional and beyond will have games or a series where the game got the better of them
Stanford scored 6 runs in 27 innings, and had something like 6 errors along the way. A player who is expected to be picked in the first round in June had 3 errors on Friday night. Stanford has 8 position players expected to be picked in the first 3 rounds this and next year and they have played 3 really poor series in the Pac 12 to now be 5-7.
When teams find a way to win while not performing at their best, the "W"  has some positives in getting to a team goal after 40 games.
My guess is the coaches and players are satisfied with the W's but not at all with the way they performed.
You seem to want to  sit in a throne of judgement and critiique.  This message board is great for you to do that.
One thing about baseball, when a team/player has a toughl game or outing, they get to come back right away and get better.
TU might need some kids to step up if Lucero cannot play.
These are great days and tough days, but they are not the type you describe.

[108 Stitches]

Heaven your bias against Western and in particular Texas teams is pretty dependable, and showed up again today.

As usual you extrapolate a comment on situation and make blanket, illogical, flaming & ignorant statement. You are consistent I must say.

How you can take a comment about a pitcher not having his best stuff, then say both teams did not play well without watching the games, because of a HBP and a walk, is just another one of your ignorant statements. Last time I checked championship teams win close games.

As usual you are popping into the Western Region and showing your bias and ignorance. Tell us how many Western teams have you seen play this year?

Now if you would have said the first two innings of the game today was painful, I would have been right there with you.

Take your bias and somewhere else.

[108 Stitches]

Nice post inflielddad. I can tell you the kids on the bus going back to San Antonio are thinking it was a great weekend. (with the exception of potentially loosing one of their top pitchers) Going into Hendrix and sweeping a very good team who was 13-1 at home up to that point is a pretty nice accomplishment.

I will certainly add the Lucero family to our prayers, injuries to pitchers like the one he had on Saturday are typically not a good thing.

[tigerfan_2001]

Once again the rabbit ears come out where Trinity's concerned.

3 one-run wins against a team without a prayer of a Pool C berth is surely evidence that Trinity is awesome. Get over yourselves.

The previous poster said Klimesh was his own worst enemy because of walks and HBPs. Doesn't sound like a very clean game from him. He also committed and error but Hendrix left the bases loaded in the first inning.

Hendrix took the early lead on an unearned run.

In Trinity's two run 5th there was a walk, HBP and a balk. Surely the signs of well played baseball.

Hendrix got 3 back in an inning that was kindled by a walk and a HBP.

And finally, Trinity's decisive seventh featured...oh yes...again, a walk and an HBP to get it started.

Trinity tried to give it back with two walks and a balk in the bottom of the 7th, but were foiled at their attempt to hand victory to Hendrix with the line drive double play...just how they drew it up I'm sure.

So...anyone want to argue now that this sure seems for all the world like a sloppy game?

Trinity is now 8-2 in one-run games after this series. Hard to keep up that kind of record...one might wonder if they used up their good fortune this weekend.

I bet chapman would trade their record in one run games with trinity right now. A win is a win.

[forheavendial4999]

My guess is the coaches and players are satisfied with the W's but not at all with the way they performed.
You seem to want to  sit in a throne of judgement and critiique.  This message board is great for you to do that.

In other words, it's OK for the team to be critical but not me.

[Ron Boerger]

My guess is the coaches and players are satisfied with the W's but not at all with the way they performed.
You seem to want to  sit in a throne of judgement and critiique.  This message board is great for you to do that.

In other words, it's OK for the team to be critical but not me.

Being critical is fine.  Flaming Trinity at every opportunity borders on the ludicrous.  We are thoroughly aware you don't respect Trinity and won't unless they get to the championships, something which may have become much more difficult if they lost one of their two stud P's this weekend.   Fair enough, move on to another topic. 

[infielddad]

My guess is the coaches and players are satisfied with the W's but not at all with the way they performed.
You seem to want to  sit in a throne of judgement and critiique.  This message board is great for you to do that.

In other words, it's OK for the team to be critical but not me.

How intriguing you would ask the question  and  apparently not appreciate the  "difference."

[forheavendial4999]

Heaven your bias against Western and in particular Texas teams is pretty dependable, and showed up again today.

Not yesterday? Aw shucks...

As usual you extrapolate a comment on situation and make blanket, illogical, flaming & ignorant statement. You are consistent I must say.

I extrapolated? I'm not the one that presumed that one example was the only example that supported a given statement. I'm sorry, if I watched a game where most of the offense was sparked by free passes, I would feel like that was a pretty mediocre game, even if my team was involved. My team isn't one of those that goes to the plate looking to get hit, though, even though there are some in our region that do.

How you can take a comment about a pitcher not having his best stuff, then say both teams did not play well without watching the games, because of a HBP and a walk

Classic tactic...continue to perpetrate a myth until other people believe. Too bad I laid out the entire story already.

, is just another one of your ignorant statements. Last time I checked championship teams win close games.

Check again. Only 4 of Marietta's 47 wins en route to a national title last year were by 1 run. They lost none, and having a closer with 7 combined shutouts on a team with a record number of shutouts I imagine has something to do with that. Illinois Wesleyan only won 4 one-run games (against 6 losses) in 2010. ST. Thomas was 5-5 in 1-run games in 2009, with most of those wins for both the 2010 and 2009 champs coming late in the year after losing several one-run games early (regression to the mean). Trinity was 7-1 in one-run game, but of course they only lost 1 game all year. In 2007 Kean was 6-5 in one-run games. In 2006, Marietta was 8-5, winning its last 3 one-run games. But they lost 3 one-run games to the same team before beating that same team in a one-run game in the regional championship. It might help to know the 3 losses were all on the road, and the win at a neutral site.

So while several teams of late have won close games in their championship runs, not so many were outstanding in one-run games during the regular season. 2011 Marietta only played 4 one-run games in a 51 game season and the only one in their tournament run was in a throwaway game in the regional championship. Trinity simply didn't lost often to anyone. The others were actually below par teams in 1-run games until late in the year. In other words, there's really not much correlation at all between championship teams and outperforming in one-run games.

Take your bias and somewhere else.

Make like a tree, and get out of here.

[forheavendial4999]

My guess is the coaches and players are satisfied with the W's but not at all with the way they performed.
You seem to want to  sit in a throne of judgement and critiique.  This message board is great for you to do that.

In other words, it's OK for the team to be critical but not me.

Being critical is fine.  Flaming Trinity at every opportunity borders on the ludicrous.

Interesting that giving what I would think would be a rather reasonable assessment in most circles is seen as that here. Bit of little man's syndrome I detect. Sorry, most people don't get jazzed up by walks, errors, hit batsmen and balks.

  We are thoroughly aware you don't respect Trinity and won't unless they get to the championships, something which may have become much more difficult if they lost one of their two stud P's this weekend.   Fair enough, move on to another topic.

Boy you're not even waiting until his status is known before you start making excuses are you? Never mind that Marietta finished 2nd in 2001 with Matt DeSalvo, lost him for the season early in 2002, and then finished 2nd again with three guys that, to quote a sportswriter friend of mine "couldn't break a pane of glass"! I'm sure that's not the only example of a team overcoming injury to make a strong showing in Appleton (or Salem, etc.).

I hope Lucero is available and Trinity is at full strength, but if he's not that's not an excuse for not winning a regional or winning a game in Appleton if a team is really that good.