BB: Top Teams in West Region

Started by CrashDavisD3, February 20, 2012, 08:23:11 PM

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CrashDavisD3

Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 10, 2012, 10:03:52 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
I have posted the side-by-side comparison of Pomona-Pitzer versus Linfield in the Daily Dose blog.

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3baseball/2012/05/10/third-regional-rankings-2/#comment-2226

P-P wins every comparison.
It doesn't disprove your overall point, but I would argue that Linfield wins the results against ranked opponents criterion. And Linfield does have an edge in SOS on the NCAA PDF.
Still not enough to justify their #5 seed. The process in broken. Try to tell me they are one of the 16 best Pool C bids by the numbers when they final bids are awarded in  few days...
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
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TexasBB

Can anyone say BCS or is that BS. So much for all the technical explanations on SOS, quality wins yada yada yada.  Its back to smoke filled rooms and playing favorites. Too bad, I was just begining to think that there was logic to the system.

TexasBB

BamColt

You guys are just now figuring out a handful of D3 baseball selections are picked in a similar way the lottery numbers are chosen on a weekly basis?

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 10, 2012, 10:03:52 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
I have posted the side-by-side comparison of Pomona-Pitzer versus Linfield in the Daily Dose blog.

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3baseball/2012/05/10/third-regional-rankings-2/#comment-2226

P-P wins every comparison.
It doesn't disprove your overall point, but I would argue that Linfield wins the results against ranked opponents criterion. And Linfield does have an edge in SOS on the NCAA PDF.
Please elaborate Ricky.

Can you post the link for the NCAA SOS pdf? I took the .510 vs .509 off the D3baseball.com front page.

Thanks.

108 Stitches

The thing that I keep thinking about are the P-P players, coaches and families. This is a very sad day for DIII baseball.

Is there any process to review these kinds of decisions by the AD's?

Ralph Turner

Let's see what happens this weekend.

Facing CTX's Hays as the opening game pitcher in a #1 vs #6 is not any easier than facing TU's Klimesh in a #2 vs #5, unless PP stays home.

BigPoppa

Could we possibly see two teams sent in for the west with both Linfield and P-P being left home?
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

108 Stitches

BigPoppa, have you seen this happen in the past?

Based on what I have read they will try to compare teams in region as much as possible, but I am new to this so I have no experience. 

OshDude

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2012, 10:21:24 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 10, 2012, 10:03:52 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
I have posted the side-by-side comparison of Pomona-Pitzer versus Linfield in the Daily Dose blog.

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3baseball/2012/05/10/third-regional-rankings-2/#comment-2226

P-P wins every comparison.
It doesn't disprove your overall point, but I would argue that Linfield wins the results against ranked opponents criterion. And Linfield does have an edge in SOS on the NCAA PDF.
Please elaborate Ricky.

Can you post the link for the NCAA SOS pdf? I took the .510 vs .509 off the D3baseball.com front page.

Thanks.
To me, 4-3 is more impressive than 3-2 in terms of results against ranked teams. Not sure why that would be controversial. I'm getting a kick out of the karma dinging though.

The SOS is found on the PDF's below the regional rankings.

TexasBB

QuoteThe thing that I keep thinking about are the P-P players, coaches and families. This is a very sad day for DIII baseball.

That is exactly the same thing I was thinking about. How do you explain to those kids why they didn't get to go and a team with an inferior record takes your place. The credibility is gone. At the very least the NCAA , if they pick Linfield, (and they probably will), owes an explanation for this selection. However, don't hold your breath, none is likely to be forthcoming.

Texas BB

Ralph Turner

http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/pdf/staticpdfrank

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BigPoppa

You explain it to the kids by saying " you should have won the Pool A bid." Win the bid versus being handed a bid. Anyone left home on Monday has themselves to blame before blaming others.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Whatagame

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2012, 02:32:06 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on May 10, 2012, 12:12:10 AM
....factors like who the hosting team is?.......
Hosting team getting a bid?

That is so ... NAIA!   :o

Well, there's always this - based on Linfield's performance this year against Brian Rauh, a Klimesh/Linfield match up might produce an NCAA single-game record for strikeouts!

OshDude

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2012, 10:42:46 PM
http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/pdf/staticpdfrank

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OshDude

I'm very happy that I'm not on the West RAC. I think there's a top three, probably four, and a mess that follows. I seem to be in minority, but to me Linfield is in that mess justifiably. I'm not saying I agree after the top three or four, but I don't think it's ludicrous that Linfield is among the fairly long list of contenders for the last two spots in the West.

Where Linfield gets hammered is common opponents.