BB: Top Teams in West Region

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CrashDavisD3

Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 22, 2013, 01:00:42 PM
I am biased  ;D but I thought it would end up like:

Trinity
Linfield
Cal Lutheran
UT Tyler
P-P
Tex Lutheran

Trinity had the best pitching staff there, they were the best defensive team but just could not get it done with runners in scoring position. Coming from a D1 world I did not expect Linfield to have the pitching, and Hadeland proved that wrong-  big time. CLU was better than their record, the game they lost to Trinity could have gone either way, (actually that could be said of a lot of games at the regional, very balanced)  I am not sure why, but CLU did not seem to have the "fire in their belly" like some of the other teams.

Linfield had the best offensive line up by far. I was very impressed with them and they have some real physical specimens. If you look up "manly" in the dictionary you will see their 3-4-5-6 hitters.  ;) Very disciplined team, excellent base runners. 
I was suprised that CLU for a team that was one of the top teams in hitting in the DIII it could not score more runs. Great pitching shuts done great hitters.

Linfield did not suprise me. They do just enough to get things done and they get big time performance by their players stepping up and have big time games. A few runs either way could have made a difference. Teams were very close to each other.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: dahlby on May 22, 2013, 12:38:47 PM
JP is correct. Hopefully the SCIAC will go to 4 game weekends next year (I doubt it) which would force the teams to develop a fourth (or fifth) starter for the non-conference games played during the week. CU was fortunate during D3 tourneys where they advanced to have good relief pitching they could  rely on instead of a fourth of fifth starter. Also picher injuries reduced the number of starters for CU during tourney time.
4 game series for SCIAC would help them develop that 4th starter. 1 on Friday, 2 Saturday 1 Sunday would be a good format. BUT I doubt they will make this change with so much emphasis on academics at the SCIAC schools. This would eliminate the MTWTH games for the most part
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

forheavendial4999

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 22, 2013, 01:09:17 PM
BUT I doubt they will make this change with so much emphasis on academics at the SCIAC schools. This would eliminate the MTWTH games for the most part

Wouldn't this be good for academics?

Texas Leaguer

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 22, 2013, 01:09:17 PM
Quote from: dahlby on May 22, 2013, 12:38:47 PM
JP is correct. Hopefully the SCIAC will go to 4 game weekends next year (I doubt it) which would force the teams to develop a fourth (or fifth) starter for the non-conference games played during the week. CU was fortunate during D3 tourneys where they advanced to have good relief pitching they could  rely on instead of a fourth of fifth starter. Also picher injuries reduced the number of starters for CU during tourney time.
4 game series for SCIAC would help them develop that 4th starter. 1 on Friday, 2 Saturday 1 Sunday would be a good format. BUT I doubt they will make this change with so much emphasis on academics at the SCIAC schools. This would eliminate the MTWTH games for the most part

One factor that could hold them back from going to a four game weekend series would be if they thought there was more variability in the outcome of the 4th game.  When it comes to Pool C selections and regional rankings, you would be compared to other teams in the region that were able to throw their 1-2-3 more often and it could negative impact your comparisons if you picked up a couple more in-region losses than you otherwise would have.  It would be interesting to see how the pitchers are used.  Would the underdog team throw their ace in game 1 of the series or save him for a later game when he would be going up against the other team's #4 to try to "steal" a game.

Texas Leaguer

Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 22, 2013, 01:25:49 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 22, 2013, 01:09:17 PM
BUT I doubt they will make this change with so much emphasis on academics at the SCIAC schools. This would eliminate the MTWTH games for the most part

Wouldn't this be good for academics?

Correct me if I'm wrong but under the current format, teams travel on Friday, play during the weekend and return home Sunday.  Some of the SCIAC schools are close enough that I assume they just bus day of game.  Not sure if all of the fields have lights.  The ones that don't would mean the Friday game would be during the day and kids would have to miss class they otherwise wouldn't.  Also, if travel is involved, it would be pushed up to Thursday potentially causing more classes to be missed.

tigerfan_2001

Quote from: Texas Leaguer on May 22, 2013, 02:06:00 PM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 22, 2013, 01:25:49 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 22, 2013, 01:09:17 PM
BUT I doubt they will make this change with so much emphasis on academics at the SCIAC schools. This would eliminate the MTWTH games for the most part

Wouldn't this be good for academics?

Correct me if I'm wrong but under the current format, teams travel on Friday, play during the weekend and return home Sunday.  Some of the SCIAC schools are close enough that I assume they just bus day of game.  Not sure if all of the fields have lights.  The ones that don't would mean the Friday game would be during the day and kids would have to miss class they otherwise wouldn't.  Also, if travel is involved, it would be pushed up to Thursday potentially causing more classes to be missed.
I think they play Friday/Sat as of now and they all bus.  Often, the Friday night game is at one team's field and the Sat games are at the other team's field.

forheavendial4999

Why does a 4 game weekend mean you have to play Friday?

You don't need lights to play a doubleheader.

TexasBB

ASC uses a similar format. A non-conference game during the week (usually on Weds.) with a 3 game conference series on the weekend. (9 inning game on Friday with 2 games on Saturday a 7 inning game  followed by a 9 inning game.  Sunday is used as a make up day if there is rain.


tigerfan_2001

Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 22, 2013, 02:33:01 PM
Why does a 4 game weekend mean you have to play Friday?

You don't need lights to play a doubleheader.
why play 2DH when you can only play 1?

CrashDavisD3

SCIAC teams are all within 3 hours via bus/van rides, BUT your dealing with SoCal traffic. In 2013 Friday games are played at 3:00 PM and DH on Saturdays starting at 11 AM PDT. All games are 9 innings with no scheduled Sunday games usually.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

forheavendial4999

Quote from: Trinbot_2001 on May 22, 2013, 02:36:33 PM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 22, 2013, 02:33:01 PM
Why does a 4 game weekend mean you have to play Friday?

You don't need lights to play a doubleheader.
why play 2DH when you can only play 1?

Why come up with your own contributions when you just ask dumb questions of mine and CONTINUE to make a point of engaging me everywhere possible?

You're like the little brother I never had...or wanted...and still don't want...

tigerfan_2001

No one likes to play Double Headers.  If they did, you would see Division 1 playing them.  You don't play them if it is not necessary.

forheavendial4999

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 22, 2013, 03:03:19 PM
SCIAC teams are all within 3 hours via bus/van rides, BUT your dealing with SoCal traffic. In 2013 Friday games are played at 3:00 PM and DH on Saturdays starting at 11 AM PDT. All games are 9 innings with no scheduled Sunday games usually.

Actually Cal Lu to Redlands still checks in at under 2 hours per Google Maps.

You could either move the Friday games to Sunday, or add a single game on Sunday and not miss any more class time. The former option would actually mean less time out of class.

tigerfan_2001

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 22, 2013, 03:03:19 PM
SCIAC teams are all within 3 hours via bus/van rides, BUT your dealing with SoCal traffic. In 2013 Friday games are played at 3:00 PM and DH on Saturdays starting at 11 AM PDT. All games are 9 innings with no scheduled Sunday games usually.
are there any religiously affiliated schools besides Cal Lu (how religious are they?) and could that be why they dont play on Sunday?

forheavendial4999

Quote from: Trinbot_2001 on May 22, 2013, 04:12:32 PM
No one likes to play Double Headers.  If they did, you would see Division 1 playing them.  You don't play them if it is not necessary.

Yeah...I'm sure TV and gate receipts have nothing to do with why D-I plays few DHs.

It's funny how when I argue something that people don't like, I have no regard for D-III...but when I have an idea that's different from D-I, D-I get thrown right in my face.

D-I is not really relevant to anything about D-III baseball. Postseason is different, regular season is different. Motivation for scheduling is different. Program priorities are different.

But since you brought it up, South Carolina did play a scheduled conference DH this year...at Missouri. So I guess you don't know much about this either. Even as you try to one up, you're still one down.