BB: Top Teams in West Region

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CAK72B

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The key word there is "only other" referring to Chapman and Linfield

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NWBaseballFan10

I keep waiting for things to clear up in the West, but each weekend leaves me with more questions and doubts than the previous. The only team/seed that I would feel relatively confident in is CTX as the #1. Beyond that, it's a total crapshoot.

1. CTX (20-5)

Others in Consideration:

TLU (18-8)
Whitworth (19-8)
Trinity (17-8)
Pacific Lutheran (19-8)
The SCIAC's top 5 teams (Cal Lu, Chapman, LV, PP, Oxy)

Whatagame

Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on March 30, 2015, 12:40:13 PM
I keep waiting for things to clear up in the West, but each weekend leaves me with more questions and doubts than the previous. The only team/seed that I would feel relatively confident in is CTX as the #1. Beyond that, it's a total crapshoot.

1. CTX (20-5)

Others in Consideration:

TLU (18-8)
Whitworth (19-8)
Trinity (17-8)
Pacific Lutheran (19-8)
The SCIAC's top 5 teams (Cal Lu, Chapman, LV, PP, Oxy)

LaVerne?  After dropping 3 of 4 to Pacific?  I would still have Linfield in that mix and remove LaVerne and Oxy at this point.

NWBaseballFan10

Realistically I only see Cal Lu, Chapman, and Pomona-Pitzer as teams worth discussing in the SCIAC. The other 2 are merely there considering their current standings in conference play. I would expect LV to drop quite a bit over the next few weeks with games against Oxy, Cal Lu, and Chapman coming up. But with the way this season has been going, it is hard to discount anyone at this point. Everything can and will likely change once the conference tournaments roll around. The only sure thing appears to be that the West's chances of having 6 teams in the Regional is looking pretty slim.

Jack Parkman

Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on March 30, 2015, 01:22:23 PM
Realistically I only see Cal Lu, Chapman, and Pomona-Pitzer as teams worth discussing in the SCIAC. The other 2 are merely there considering their current standings in conference play. I would expect LV to drop quite a bit over the next few weeks with games against Oxy, Cal Lu, and Chapman coming up. But with the way this season has been going, it is hard to discount anyone at this point. Everything can and will likely change once the conference tournaments roll around. The only sure thing appears to be that the West's chances of having 6 teams in the Regional is looking pretty slim.

Agreed.  Chapman has really played well lately and Pomona has been solid all year.  Cal Lu is struggling bad right now but they can make it up with a series win this weekend against Pomona, or they can fall even further behind.  It's all about the regional rankings and what they say, not the rankings from this site.  Although CLU has dropped some games lately, they also have 2 wins against Chapman, 2 against Whitworth.....well, that's about it as I just looked at their schedule.  Not pretty.

Teddy_Ballgame

Quote from: Whatagame on March 30, 2015, 01:03:09 PM
Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on March 30, 2015, 12:40:13 PM
I keep waiting for things to clear up in the West, but each weekend leaves me with more questions and doubts than the previous. The only team/seed that I would feel relatively confident in is CTX as the #1. Beyond that, it's a total crapshoot.

1. CTX (20-5)

Others in Consideration:

TLU (18-8)
Whitworth (19-8)
Trinity (17-8)
Pacific Lutheran (19-8)
The SCIAC's top 5 teams (Cal Lu, Chapman, LV, PP, Oxy)

LaVerne?  After dropping 3 of 4 to Pacific?  I would still have Linfield in that mix and remove LaVerne and Oxy at this point.

Agreed- and it's important to look at schedules going forward. ULV is 15-10 overall and their conference record looks great until you realize they still have 9 games left with Oxy, Chapman, and CLU plus the four game round robin. I'd be surprised if they reach the tournament with fewer than 15 losses, and even that would be a tall order.

Oxy, on the other hand, has ULV and CLU left, plus Willamette and the SCIAC round robin. Their 17-9 record will look very different at the end of that stretch, and I don't think they have the offense to win a majority of their games the rest of the year.

Remaining schedule is also why I'm keeping Redlands on the list in the SCIAC. The 9 overall losses for Redlands right now isn't great, but their only conference series left are six pretty much guaranteed wins (v. CMS and CIT). They've also got three against UPS, and then the four SCIAC round robin games and tournament. From what I've heard about their pitching staff and what their offensive numbers say, they can beat just about anyone and could easily go on a tear. If they can take two or three from Willamette and three or four during round robin play (neither easy, but both possible), that puts them at 28-30 wins going into the tournament. Their non-conference schedule is on the weaker end, but that many wins has to be deserving of a look right?

TexasBB

It will be interesting as Trinity plays two games this weekend against CTX. Each team hosts the other for a single game.
In the ASC, CTX is 15-2 with UTT at 13-5. Those teams will play each other later in April at CTX. UTT has not played as well on the road. They dropped 3 games to a very average UTD team in Dallas.


CAK72B

West Teams in the Rankings:

18) CTX
19) Trinity (TX)
20) Cal Lu
RV) Linfield
RV) Pacific Lutheran
RV) Puget Sound
RV) Pomona-Pitzer
RV) Southwestern (TX)

I stated this on the Top 25 poll board but the fact that Texas Lutheran is not even receiving a single vote but Trinity is ranked in the Top 25 does not make any sense. However, there still does not seem to be any team that really wants to take over the West Region and separate themselves. Should be a very interesting 2nd half of the year in the Region.

bzzboyz

Quote from: CAK72B on March 31, 2015, 11:14:35 AM
West Teams in the Rankings:

18) CTX
19) Trinity (TX)
20) Cal Lu
RV) Linfield
RV) Pacific Lutheran
RV) Puget Sound
RV) Pomona-Pitzer
RV) Southwestern (TX)

I stated this on the Top 25 poll board but the fact that Texas Lutheran is not even receiving a single vote but Trinity is ranked in the Top 25 does not make any sense. However, there still does not seem to be any team that really wants to take over the West Region and separate themselves. Should be a very interesting 2nd half of the year in the Region.

Especially after losing two straight conference series. Southwestern has beat some some strong teams but lost 2 of 3 to TLU in non conference games but still managed 6 votes. I think team mom's vote on this crap.

Bishopleftiesdad

Quote from: bzzboyz on March 31, 2015, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: CAK72B on March 31, 2015, 11:14:35 AM
West Teams in the Rankings:

18) CTX
19) Trinity (TX)
20) Cal Lu
RV) Linfield
RV) Pacific Lutheran
RV) Puget Sound
RV) Pomona-Pitzer
RV) Southwestern (TX)

I stated this on the Top 25 poll board but the fact that Texas Lutheran is not even receiving a single vote but Trinity is ranked in the Top 25 does not make any sense. However, there still does not seem to be any team that really wants to take over the West Region and separate themselves. Should be a very interesting 2nd half of the year in the Region.

Especially after losing two straight conference series. Southwestern has beat some some strong teams but lost 2 of 3 to TLU in non conference games but still managed 6 votes. I think team mom's vote on this crap.
At this time of year you take these with a grain of salt. Keep winning and your team will get in. Keep winning year after year and build a reputation. You cannot compare teams in a Vacuum. You have to take the whole body of work.

Jim Dixon

Quote from: bzzboyz on March 31, 2015, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: CAK72B on March 31, 2015, 11:14:35 AM
West Teams in the Rankings:

18) CTX
19) Trinity (TX)
20) Cal Lu
RV) Linfield
RV) Pacific Lutheran
RV) Puget Sound
RV) Pomona-Pitzer
RV) Southwestern (TX)

I stated this on the Top 25 poll board but the fact that Texas Lutheran is not even receiving a single vote but Trinity is ranked in the Top 25 does not make any sense. However, there still does not seem to be any team that really wants to take over the West Region and separate themselves. Should be a very interesting 2nd half of the year in the Region.

Especially after losing two straight conference series. Southwestern has beat some some strong teams but lost 2 of 3 to TLU in non conference games but still managed 6 votes. I think team mom's vote on this crap.

Hard to figure out Southwestern.  Lots of good wins over ranked opponents, looking like the Pirates of the past and then times they look like the Pirates of the last few years.

Bishopleftiesdad


WestisBest

The Massey rating seems more on point than the D3 ranking.  Whitworth leads the NWC, but didn't get a vote in the D3 poll? C'mon, that's not right. In the Massey rating, the Pirates sit in the no. 15 spot.

Bishopleftiesdad

Massey is computer generated. They also do not always have teh game scores correct and many times they are missing games.