BB: Top Teams in West Region

[SoCalSoxFan]

Interesting.
1) Hard to argue against PLU and Linfield as top 2 in the west. 
2) I think they got TT correct.   As I opined earlier in either this thread or ASC thread, I think they are strong Pool C candidates if they don't win ASC tourney outright.  And Concordia, because of Cox, should get a Pool C bid as well if TT wins the ASC.
3) Hard to argue against CLU and PP being top teams in SCIAC.  Not sure they are both better than the top SCAC team.   CLU and PP are both 8-3 out of conference.   CLU is 3-1 against NWC with loss being an 11 inning Linfield come from behind win.
4) No SCAC schools in top 6?  I'm speculating that the Out-of-conf record 12-7 and 7-11 weighed down TLU and Centenary.  TLU 1-2 against TT.  For Trinity:  they are in third, so putting them in Top 6 right now would've been a surprise.  As the SCAC tourney plays out, I expect the winner will jump  ahead of SCIAC winner.

Above is my Opining from last week.

1) Thanks to Whitworth, we can now argue about PLU and Linfield being top 2 in west.  I think one of those will get Pool C.  It would be very surprising if PLU doesn't get in ahead of Linfield

2) I continue to believe TT and Concordia will both be in Regionals.  One as A; one as C.   
Of course, Last year most felt G Fox would get in, partially due to tourney being in their back yard.  They ended up watching as 2 teams outside West were flown in.  If CTX loses one to MHB and then struggles in tourney; they could end up like G Fox

3) Redlands defeated PP in Round Robin; probably eliminating PP from Pool C.   CLU has outside chance of C if they don't win SCIAC tourney this week and if CTX struggles.

4) SCAC winner will be only team in West Regionals.  See 1&2 above for who I pick as Pool C


Question:  Would they send a West team to another region?   With Whitworths surprising NWC tourney win, are there 6 other West teams strong enough to send one to another region?   Since NWC would be flying half the country away to Tyler, the cost would be same to Linfield/PLU to go to Midwest somewhere. 
There are 6 teams in top 25; which depending on tourney wins/upsets, may leave room in another region for a West pool C team to be flown in.

[TexasBB]

Massey NCAA III      
      
1   Frostburg St      33-3   
2   Cortland St      33-2   
3   WI Whitewater      24-4   
4   Salisbury St      24-4-1   
5   Pac Lutheran      27-9   
6   Birmingham So      30-7-1   
7   Concordia TX      26-7   
8   Methodist      29-8   
9   Linfield      27-10   
10 UT Tyler      28-10    
11 Baldwin-Wallace      27-8   
12 Mary Washington   27-7   
13 WI LaCrosse      21-10   
14 Bethel MN      24-5   
15 WI Stevens Pt      21-11   
16 Rhodes      28-11   
17 TX Lutheran      25-8   
18 Ohio Northern      27-8   
19 Webster Univ      25-9   
20 Trinity TX      27-9   

[TexasBB]

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[Ron Boerger]

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[SoCalSoxFan]

Massey NCAA III      
      
1   Frostburg St      33-3   
2   Cortland St      33-2   
3   WI Whitewater      24-4   
4   Salisbury St      24-4-1   
5   Pac Lutheran      27-9   
6   Birmingham So      30-7-1   
7   Concordia TX      26-7   
8   Methodist      29-8   
9   Linfield      27-10   
10 UT Tyler      28-10    
11 Baldwin-Wallace      27-8   
12 Mary Washington   27-7   
13 WI LaCrosse      21-10   
14 Bethel MN      24-5   
15 WI Stevens Pt      21-11   
16 Rhodes      28-11   
17 TX Lutheran      25-8   
18 Ohio Northern      27-8   
19 Webster Univ      25-9   
20 Trinity TX      27-9   

From the West:   4 in the top 10; at least 3 of which won't be Pool A bids.   Looking at this from an optimistic prism, it bodes well that West could have a 3rd Pool C team that is shipped outside of region!

[Westside]

Regional Rankings are out!

WEST         
1   Pacific Lutheran   25-9-0 ( 0.735)   28-11-0 ( 0.718)
2   Texas-Tyler   29-9-0 ( 0.763)   30-10-0 ( 0.750)
3   Linfield   26-11-0 ( 0.703)   28-12-0 ( 0.700)
4   Concordia (TX)   27-9-0 ( 0.750)   27-9-0 ( 0.750)
5   Cal Lutheran   28-10-0 ( 0.737)   28-10-0 ( 0.737)
6   Whitworth   27-12-0 ( 0.692)   28-13-0 ( 0.683)

[Jack Parkman]

Regional Rankings are out!

WEST         
1   Pacific Lutheran   25-9-0 ( 0.735)   28-11-0 ( 0.718)
2   Texas-Tyler   29-9-0 ( 0.763)   30-10-0 ( 0.750)
3   Linfield   26-11-0 ( 0.703)   28-12-0 ( 0.700)
4   Concordia (TX)   27-9-0 ( 0.750)   27-9-0 ( 0.750)
5   Cal Lutheran   28-10-0 ( 0.737)   28-10-0 ( 0.737)
6   Whitworth   27-12-0 ( 0.692)   28-13-0 ( 0.683)

What I see with this:

1. PLU- POOL C, pretty much a lock to get in
2. UTT- Still a shot at POOL A, likely picked for POOL C
3. Linfield- POOL C, need wins this weekend, could be sent to another region depending on what the other regions look like
4. Concordia- Still a shot at POOL A and definitely questionable to POOL C if they don't get the auto-bid
5. Cal Lu- only shot is getting the POOL A with too many POOL C teams ahead of them.  Probably rooting for a lot of top seeds to win their auto-bids.  One positive is they are 4-2 against Regionally Ranked teams from the West. (once ranked, always ranked)
6. Whitworth- POOL A, already in

The worst thing to happen for some of these schools was Whitworth winning the NCW auto-bid.  Knowing that the SCAC will have an auto-bid into the West Regional means nobody in the West can look at the Pool C with a lot of confidence, other than PLU.

[BigPoppa]

While polls and ratings are fun to look at, the only one that ever matters is the NCAA Regional Poll. Everything else is created by people who have NO influence on the selections.

[Ralph Turner]

Interesting.
1) Hard to argue against PLU and Linfield as top 2 in the west. 
2) I think they got TT correct.   As I opined earlier in either this thread or ASC thread, I think they are strong Pool C candidates if they don't win ASC tourney outright.  And Concordia, because of Cox, should get a Pool C bid as well if TT wins the ASC.
3) Hard to argue against CLU and PP being top teams in SCIAC.  Not sure they are both better than the top SCAC team.   CLU and PP are both 8-3 out of conference.   CLU is 3-1 against NWC with loss being an 11 inning Linfield come from behind win.
4) No SCAC schools in top 6?  I'm speculating that the Out-of-conf record 12-7 and 7-11 weighed down TLU and Centenary.  TLU 1-2 against TT.  For Trinity:  they are in third, so putting them in Top 6 right now would've been a surprise.  As the SCAC tourney plays out, I expect the winner will jump  ahead of SCIAC winner.

Above is my Opining from last week.

1) Thanks to Whitworth, we can now argue about PLU and Linfield being top 2 in west.  I think one of those will get Pool C.  It would be very surprising if PLU doesn't get in ahead of Linfield

2) I continue to believe TT and Concordia will both be in Regionals.  One as A; one as C.   
Of course, Last year most felt G Fox would get in, partially due to tourney being in their back yard.  They ended up watching as 2 teams outside West were flown in.  If CTX loses one to MHB and then struggles in tourney; they could end up like G Fox

3) Redlands defeated PP in Round Robin; probably eliminating PP from Pool C.   CLU has outside chance of C if they don't win SCIAC tourney this week and if CTX struggles.

4) SCAC winner will be only team in West Regionals.  See 1&2 above for who I pick as Pool C


Question:  Would they send a West team to another region?   With Whitworths surprising NWC tourney win, are there 6 other West teams strong enough to send one to another region?   Since NWC would be flying half the country away to Tyler, the cost would be same to Linfield/PLU to go to Midwest somewhere. 
There are 6 teams in top 25; which depending on tourney wins/upsets, may leave room in another region for a West pool C team to be flown in.

They have. A plane flight is a plane flight.

It might be cheaper to fly a NWC team to the midwest (lower case "m") area of the country than to Tyler.

Rhodes is within 500 miles of Tyler.  A Pool C bid to another region gives the tourney a more national flavor at no real expense.

I like the idea of the Pool C bids being sent out-of-region when possible.

[Teddy_Ballgame]

SCIAC tournament started today with both Pomona-Pitzer and Cal Lutheran dropping their first games. Hard to see any way for the SCIAC to come up with a Pool C unless Cal Lu can win two tomorrow and force a second game on Sunday. Even then, they'd need a lot of help from tournament favorites across the country.

[TexasBB]

CTX won the first two games against UMHB but dropped the last game. That  made UTT the regular season conference champ and top seed for next weeks ASC conference tournament. 

[SoCalSoxFan]

CTX won the first two games against UMHB but dropped the last game. That  made UTT the regular season conference champ and top seed for next weeks ASC conference tournament.

Will that impact CTX chances for Pool C?

[Ralph Turner]

CTX won the first two games against UMHB but dropped the last game. That  made UTT the regular season conference champ and top seed for next weeks ASC conference tournament.

Will that impact CTX chances for Pool C?

Other than not sleeping in their own beds...
Win and get in. Getting  a Pool C bid from the ASC will help the conference.

I think that the ASC is a strong conference with lots of depth. If CTX makes it to the finals, then I think that they deserve a Pool C bid.

[108 Stitches]

#   School (1st votes)   Rec   Pts   Prev.
1   Cortland State (24)   36-3   624   1
2   Frostburg State   35-5   577   2
3   UW-Whitewater (1)   30-7   572   3
4   Salisbury   27-4   521   5
5   Kean   32-10   457   9
6   Birmingham-Southern   34-10-1   443   4
7   Baldwin Wallace   31-8   433   12
8   Rhodes   32-11   418   13
9   Heidelberg   29-10   414   6
10   Shenandoah   27-8-1   408   8
11   Wooster   33-7   392   7
12   Methodist   32-8   338   12
13   UW-Stevens Point   27-11   311   15
14   Wartburg   30-10   256   11
15   Concordia (Texas)   29-10   221   14
16   Ohio Northern   30-9   202   20
17   UW-La Crosse   28-10   180   22
18   Trinity (Texas)   33-12   157   18
19   Linfield   30-13   155   16
20   Cal Lutheran   32-12   139   19
21   Pacific Lutheran   30-12   134   21
22   Webster   29-11   105   24
23   Misericordia   26-10   92   17
24   Texas-Tyler   30-10   88   25
25   Wesleyan   25-8   80   rv
Dropped out: No. 23 Randolph-Macon.

Others receiving votes: Adrian 47, Bethel (Minn.) 44, Southern Maine 40, Tufts 36, Millsaps 36, Whitworth 33, Randolph-Macon 32, Emory 30, Mary Washington 27, Thomas More 16, Oswego State 15, La Roche  10, Johns Hopkins 10, Clarkson 6, John Carroll 4, Stevens 2.

The D3baseball.com Top 25 is voted on by a panel of 25 Sports Information Directors and media members from across the country, and is published weekly. Full members of NCAA Division III are eligible.

[SoCalSoxFan]

Not that this poll matters as the Regional and super-secret committee rankings are more important,

but that's a very tight grouping of the 6 West teams!