BB: Top Teams in West Region

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Jack Parkman

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 08, 2023, 02:41:52 PM
Region 10 seems either down or incredibly balanced in 2023.
We may do well to get 1 Pool C bid, probably from the SCIAC.

I think, which is not my strongest attribute, that Pacific should be in a good spot for a Pool C, but teams like La Verne, CMS, and Chapman all have the chance to add more regionally ranked wins to their resume. What could really hose a team like Pacific is Chapman or Cal Lu winning the SCIAC tourney.

108 Stitches

I think it is down, SCAC is weak and is the first time I can remember that Trinity has not been ranked in top 25 as well as only TLU in regional rankings.
As we all know it is about getting hot around the playoffs so rankings don't mean anything once regionals start.
Good luck to the SCIAC teams in their conference tournament.

Jack Parkman

Looking at the Regional Rankings for teams that have not clinched a spot yet...

ULV: 5 wins and 7 losses against regionally ranked teams. They have the chance to add to each total this weekend.

CMS: 5 wins and 3 losses against regionally ranked teams. They also have the chance to add to their totals this weekend.

Pacific: 3-3 against Regionally Ranked teams with no way to improve. I feel "pretty good" about their position but only have 6 results against RR teams could bite them after this weekend.

Chapman: 9 wins and 8 losses against regionally ranked teams. Having a total of 17 results, with more ahead this weekend could really help them if they make a deep run this weekend in the SCIAC tourney.

TLU: 5 wins and 8 losses against regionally ranked teams. I think they are done since they are so low in the rankings right now.

Lewis & Clark clinched a spot already, but them dropping out of the RR this week hurts a few teams, especially Pacific.

Of course, none of this is accurate if it is still "Once ranked, always ranked". If that is the case, I'll just wait to see what happens.

Jack Parkman

Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 10, 2023, 09:48:15 PM
Looking at the Regional Rankings for teams that have not clinched a spot yet...

ULV: 5 wins and 7 losses against regionally ranked teams. They have the chance to add to each total this weekend.

CMS: 5 wins and 3 losses against regionally ranked teams. They also have the chance to add to their totals this weekend.

Pacific: 3-3 against Regionally Ranked teams with no way to improve. I feel "pretty good" about their position but only have 6 results against RR teams could bite them after this weekend.

Chapman: 9 wins and 8 losses against regionally ranked teams. Having a total of 17 results, with more ahead this weekend could really help them if they make a deep run this weekend in the SCIAC tourney.

TLU: 5 wins and 8 losses against regionally ranked teams. I think they are done since they are so low in the rankings right now.

Lewis & Clark clinched a spot already, but them dropping out of the RR this week hurts a few teams, especially Pacific.

Of course, none of this is accurate if it is still "Once ranked, always ranked". If that is the case, I'll just wait to see what happens.

Listened to the Podcast about d3 baseball yesterday and it seems like a coach in the West voiced frustration over Lewis & Clark dropping out of the rankings. The frustration comes from the fact that it improves the overall body for CMS as L&C took 2/3 from CMS.

Jack Parkman

Interesting start to the SCIAC tourney with both lower seeds winning their opening game. La Verne (#4 in the West) and CMS (#2 in the West) will play today to extend their season. ULV will be in major trouble if they drop this one.

CMS started a guy with 9 innings on the year and then went to another starter out of the pen. Not sure what that thought process is, but I am really curious to see how today ends up with CMS likely throwing their ace and ULV throwing the pitcher of the year.

DickWhitman

I'm new to following the SCIAC and west region. I've enjoyed reading through this thread. Are there any suggestions on podcasts or other sources of info on the region and topic?

Ralph Turner

Tournaments are coming.

ASC: May 2-5. Top 6 teams. 1)ETBU, 2)UTD, 3)UMHB, 4) McMurry, 5T) Concordia Texas and 5T) U Ozarks. HSU and LeTU ar 1.5 games behind, tied for 7th

SCAC: May 3-5. Top 4 teams look solid. 1) Trinity TX, 2) Centenary 3) Southwestern 4) TLU

SCIAC: (The conference website gives little information on the championship tourney which will occur May 9-12.) 1) La Verne, 2) PP, 3) Cal Lu. Tied for 4th are CMS, Chapman and Whittier.

NWC: Top 4 teams May 9-12. 1) Whitman 2) Willamette 3) Linfield 4) Whitworth and Lewis & Clark are tied.

DickWhitman

The SCIAC site has been a mess the last two weeks. CMS is now in 4th. Chapman a game behind with PP and Cal Lu remaining.

Ralph Turner


DickWhitman

Updated Region 10 rankings:

Region X      In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   East Texas Baptist   34-6   34-6
2   Trinty (TX)   30-10   30-10
3   La Verne   24-8-1   24-9-1
4   Pomona-Pitzer   25-11   26-11
5   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   26-10   26-10
6   Cal Lutheran   23-11   26-11
7   UT Dallas   28-12   28-12

Ralph Turner

Neither ETBU nor Trinity made the finals of their respective tourneys. How much does that hurt their chances at Pool C?

Concordia TX won the ASC. Centenary LA and Texas Lutheran play game 7 tomorrow for the SCAC bid.

(We aren't supposed to think this, but an SCAC-ASC 4-team first round bracket would save a flight...)

DickWhitman

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2024, 12:46:39 AMNeither ETBU nor Trinity made the finals of their respective tourneys. How much does that hurt their chances at Pool C?

Concordia TX won the ASC. Centenary LA and Texas Lutheran play game 7 tomorrow for the SCAC bid.

(We aren't supposed to think this, but an SCAC-ASC 4-team first round bracket would save a flight...)

I don't think it hurts their chances at all. The biggest loser here is the SCIAC. It was going to be a 3 bid conference. Does the NCAA give region ten 8 teams? If not, a really good team is going to be left out.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: DickWhitman on May 06, 2024, 10:38:50 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2024, 12:46:39 AMNeither ETBU nor Trinity made the finals of their respective tourneys. How much does that hurt their chances at Pool C?

Concordia TX won the ASC. Centenary LA and Texas Lutheran play game 7 tomorrow for the SCAC bid.

(We aren't supposed to think this, but an SCAC-ASC 4-team first round bracket would save a flight...)

I don't think it hurts their chances at all. The biggest loser here is the SCIAC. It was going to be a 3 bid conference. Does the NCAA give region ten 8 teams? If not, a really good team is going to be left out.
I agree about the 3-bid conference.

DickWhitman

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2024, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: DickWhitman on May 06, 2024, 10:38:50 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2024, 12:46:39 AMNeither ETBU nor Trinity made the finals of their respective tourneys. How much does that hurt their chances at Pool C?

Concordia TX won the ASC. Centenary LA and Texas Lutheran play game 7 tomorrow for the SCAC bid.

(We aren't supposed to think this, but an SCAC-ASC 4-team first round bracket would save a flight...)

I don't think it hurts their chances at all. The biggest loser here is the SCIAC. It was going to be a 3 bid conference. Does the NCAA give region ten 8 teams? If not, a really good team is going to be left out.
I agree about the 3-bid conference.


How do you see the SCIAC playing out for bids? Obviously, PP and LV are highly ranked, but CMS and Cal Lu have series wins against LV. PP is a lock, IMO. Do CMS or Cal Lu have a chance for a bid if they don't win the conference?

Ralph Turner

Quote from: DickWhitman on May 06, 2024, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2024, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: DickWhitman on May 06, 2024, 10:38:50 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2024, 12:46:39 AMNeither ETBU nor Trinity made the finals of their respective tourneys. How much does that hurt their chances at Pool C?

Concordia TX won the ASC. Centenary LA and Texas Lutheran play game 7 tomorrow for the SCAC bid.

(We aren't supposed to think this, but an SCAC-ASC 4-team first round bracket would save a flight...)

I don't think it hurts their chances at all. The biggest loser here is the SCIAC. It was going to be a 3 bid conference. Does the NCAA give region ten 8 teams? If not, a really good team is going to be left out.
I agree about the 3-bid conference.


How do you see the SCIAC playing out for bids? Obviously, PP and LV are highly ranked, but CMS and Cal Lu have series wins against LV. PP is a lock, IMO. Do CMS or Cal Lu have a chance for a bid if they don't win the conference?
Let me see the Regional Rankings on Wednesday. I think that the SCIAC can be a 2-bid conference