BB: Top Teams in West Region

Ralph Turner · April 08, 2025, 12:39:32 AM

In the SCIAC PP is 5th at 6-6. They have CLU, CMS, Oxy and Cal Tech remaining, but have the tie-breaker over Redlands (2 wins to 1)
In 4th is Redlands (8-7), who has Oxy, Chapman and La Verne.

Ralph Turner · April 08, 2025, 12:49:25 AM

In the NWC, the Top four teams play May 9 - 11.

With 4 weekends to go, maybe only PLU at 6-9 and GFU at 5-8 have dug too deep a hole.
UPS (5-5) and Linfield (6-6) are tied by percentage for 5th!

Pacific (9-6 /9-12 ) leads. Their 6 non-conference losses are to #5 La Verne and #22 ETBU from last week's Top 25.

DickWhitman · April 09, 2025, 09:20:14 AM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 08, 2025, 12:39:32 AMIn the SCIAC PP is 5th at 6-6. They have CLU, CMS, Oxy and Cal Tech remaining, but have the tie-breaker over Redlands (2 wins to 1)
In 4th is Redlands (8-7), who has Oxy, Chapman and La Verne.

The SCIAC takes the top 5 now. I'm not really sure why they changed it, other than somebody was upset Chapman was left out last year

Bmo · April 11, 2025, 02:20:33 PM

Looks like we have the first look at NPI numbers.

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/43934

LaVerne 2
Claremont 10
Trinity 22

I'm rooting for Claremont to break into the top 8 to see what chaos will ensue in the West Regionals with the protected seeds.

DickWhitman · April 12, 2025, 12:25:07 AM

Is there a link that covers the D3 selection criteria and tournament details?

Ron Boerger · April 12, 2025, 11:39:18 AM

Selection critera are the 41 Pool A conference winners and 23 Pool C teams from those not in Pool A in order of NPI. Regional rankings are basically meaningless as it's straight numerical order that determines those 23. But ... the NCAA will still publish them with the first out April 22.

There will be sixteen four-team regionals beginning May 16. The sixteen winners will meet in eight two-team super regionals. The regionals and super regionals are double-elimination format. The D3CWS will be in Eastlake, Ohio, May 30-June 5. Lots of other detail in the prechampionship manual: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/baseball/d3/2024-25D3MBA_PreChampionshipManual.pdf

Ralph Turner · April 12, 2025, 12:01:15 PM

It sure is nice to get the full complement of 64 bids to the tourney.

Ralph Turner · April 12, 2025, 12:11:03 PM

UOz rose up and smote St Thomas 5-1 in game 2 yesterday.

TLU beat McM. DH today and McM needs a split for a chance at 21 wins.

Bmo · April 12, 2025, 01:10:45 PM

Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 12, 2025, 11:39:18 AMSelection critera are the 41 Pool A conference winners and 23 Pool C teams from those not in Pool A in order of NPI. Regional rankings are basically meaningless as it's straight numerical order that determines those 23. But ... the NCAA will still publish them with the first out April 22.

There will be sixteen four-team regionals beginning May 16. The sixteen winners will meet in eight two-team super regionals. The regionals and super regionals are double-elimination format. The D3CWS will be in Eastlake, Ohio, May 30-June 5. Lots of other detail in the prechampionship manual: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/baseball/d3/2024-25D3MBA_PreChampionshipManual.pdf

It would be nice if they could get the conference affiliations correct, but I get that it's a moving target especially in Texas. I don't see anything specific to top 8 NPI seeds being protected. Is that concept just for other sports?

Ron Boerger · April 12, 2025, 01:22:16 PM

~~I have to make a correction - there are eight schools listed as Pool B (non-provisional) so looks like there will be a Pool B bid.~~ In the 2025 Playoffs thread, Pat Coleman corrected me to say the prechampionship handbook is incorrect; only Pool C bids this year and thereafter.

Quote from: Bmo on April 12, 2025, 01:10:45 PMIt would be nice if they could get the conference affiliations correct, but I get that it's a moving target especially in Texas. I don't see anything specific to top 8 NPI seeds being protected. Is that concept just for other sports?

The manual says only "The highest-ranked teams will be given consideration as regional and super regional site", unlike the basketball manual which explicitly called out top eight protection, but it's hard to say given the way the AA operates whether that was deliberate or accidental. Maybe one of the D3sports gurus will have an answer.

Bmo · April 12, 2025, 01:35:24 PM

I'd guess they held top 8 seed hosting and protection out of baseball so they wouldn't have to fly 6 teams to SoCal, the pacific northwest, or Texas. Having 2 top 8 teams in region X is much more likely to play out in baseball than in other the sports

Ralph Turner · April 12, 2025, 04:20:54 PM

The Baseball Handbook does not appear to be updated. McMurry is still listed as ASC.

Ron Boerger · April 12, 2025, 05:16:06 PM

They've published it (it says '24-'25) and the dates line up (e.g. it calls May 30th a Friday and it is). There's no doubt the conference listings are ridiculously out of date and possibly more.

Ron Boerger · April 12, 2025, 06:00:55 PM

Speaking of NPI, the AA is already publishing it: https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/43934

Region X teams (through games of the 10th, so La Verne's two losses to Cal Lu yesterday and today aren't factored in)

2. La Verne
10. CMS
22. Trinity
33. Concordia (TX)
46. ETBU
47. McMurry
56. Cal Lu
63. Redlands
65. Pomona-Pitzer
93. UMHB
94. Puget Sound

Ralph Turner · April 12, 2025, 08:31:39 PM

I wonder how many Pool A bids are among teams ranked 65 and lower in the NPI?