2012 Division III NCAA Tournament

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Cali-Scot

Quote from: Hugenerd on March 03, 2012, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: fantastic50 on March 03, 2012, 10:09:57 PM
With Wooster and Witt very comparable, and Wooster having hosted a regional last year (when they weren't the highest seed remaining), my guess is that Witt gets it.  (However, as a Scots fan, I would be thrilled if I'm wrong!)

I dont think last year's regional will have any bearing on this year's hosting.

Everyone on the NCAC Board seems to think Wooster has a poor chance of hosting next weekend specifically because they hosted last year... I hope they are wrong!

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 03, 2012, 10:02:46 PM

So what seemed like a down year for the CCIW results in the pre-season #1 not even making the tournament, but the THREE teams who do all getting to the Sweet Sixteen.

Still is a down year for the CCIW ... but it's rapidly improving. ;)
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Hugenerd

Quote from: Cali-Scot on March 03, 2012, 10:47:44 PM
Quote from: Hugenerd on March 03, 2012, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: fantastic50 on March 03, 2012, 10:09:57 PM
With Wooster and Witt very comparable, and Wooster having hosted a regional last year (when they weren't the highest seed remaining), my guess is that Witt gets it.  (However, as a Scots fan, I would be thrilled if I'm wrong!)

I dont think last year's regional will have any bearing on this year's hosting.

Everyone on the NCAC Board seems to think Wooster has a poor chance of hosting next weekend specifically because they hosted last year... I hope they are wrong!

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think any of the hosting criteria mention things that happened in prior years.  If anything, I would think Witt's head-to-head advantage would give them the leg up over Wooster in terms of final regional rankings and hosting.

mailsy

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Here are our Sweet 16 teams:

Upper Left Bracket:  Eastern Connecticut vs Cabrini, Scranton vs Middlebury.  Lower Left Bracket: North Central vs Wittenberg, Illinois Weleyan vs Wooster.  Upper Right Bracket: Franklin & Marshall vs Amherst, Farmingdale State MIT vs Staten Island.  Lower Right Bracket: Whitworth vs Virginia Wesleyan, Wheaton vs UW-Whitewater.

There are some good matchups next Friday night.  Now we wait 'til tomorrow at 3:00pm.

Good luck to all the teams remaining!! :)

Sorry about that.  :-[
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Hugenerd

Quote from: mailsy on March 03, 2012, 11:19:39 PM
Here are our Sweet 16 teams:

Upper Left Bracket:  Eastern Connecticut vs Cabrini, Scranton vs Middlebury.  Lower Left Bracket: North Central vs Wittenberg, Illinois Weleyan vs Wooster.  Upper Right Bracket: Franklin & Marshall vs Amherst, Farmingdale State vs Staten Island.  Lower Right Bracket: Whitworth vs Virginia Wesleyan, Wheaton vs UW-Whitewater.

There are some good matchups next Friday night.  Now we wait 'til tomorrow at 3:00pm.

Good luck to all the teams remaining!! :)

Farmingdale State got blown out by MIT, so they will not be playing next Friday.

diehardfan

Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 03, 2012, 09:38:40 PM
Hey, I know Amherst men can't host next week (which means we're probably at F&M, right?)

I had heard somewhere that Whitewater might have a conflict as well, is that true?  If so, that pod is definitely at Wheaton/Edgewood, right?  The other two teams have to fly in anyway.

It'll clearly be between Middlebury and Cabrini for hosting duties.  Cabrini might have the seed advantage, but we all know Midd is better.

If WashU wins, then Witt is likely to host, right?  Woo and WashU are over 500 miles apart.
Whitewater did have a conflict until their women lost to Carthage. In other words, a CCIW woman's team may keep a CCIW men's team from hosting. I doubt Carthage fans are shedding any tears though.  :P
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Quote from: Hugenerd on March 03, 2012, 11:06:31 PM
Quote from: Cali-Scot on March 03, 2012, 10:47:44 PM
Quote from: Hugenerd on March 03, 2012, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: fantastic50 on March 03, 2012, 10:09:57 PM
With Wooster and Witt very comparable, and Wooster having hosted a regional last year (when they weren't the highest seed remaining), my guess is that Witt gets it.  (However, as a Scots fan, I would be thrilled if I'm wrong!)

I dont think last year's regional will have any bearing on this year's hosting.

Everyone on the NCAC Board seems to think Wooster has a poor chance of hosting next weekend specifically because they hosted last year... I hope they are wrong!

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think any of the hosting criteria mention things that happened in prior years.  If anything, I would think Witt's head-to-head advantage would give them the leg up over Wooster in terms of final regional rankings and hosting.

I would think that if Witt was ahead of Wooster in the final regional rankings that Witt would have been hosting this weekend while Wooster was braving the storms in Lexington. 

kiltedbryan

Quote from: Hugenerd on March 03, 2012, 11:06:31 PM
Quote from: Cali-Scot on March 03, 2012, 10:47:44 PM
Quote from: Hugenerd on March 03, 2012, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: fantastic50 on March 03, 2012, 10:09:57 PM
With Wooster and Witt very comparable, and Wooster having hosted a regional last year (when they weren't the highest seed remaining), my guess is that Witt gets it.  (However, as a Scots fan, I would be thrilled if I'm wrong!)

I dont think last year's regional will have any bearing on this year's hosting.

Everyone on the NCAC Board seems to think Wooster has a poor chance of hosting next weekend specifically because they hosted last year... I hope they are wrong!

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think any of the hosting criteria mention things that happened in prior years.  If anything, I would think Witt's head-to-head advantage would give them the leg up over Wooster in terms of final regional rankings and hosting.

I'm almost certain that the hosting criteria does mention "rotation of hosting sites" as one of the things the NCAA should consider in their selection of a site. However, I don't think it's typically stopped the top remaining seed from hosting sectionals in back-to-back years...but other posters would be more knowledgeable on this.

In theory, Wooster is the highest remaining seed. Wooster should've been sent to Transy and Witt should've hosted this weekend if Wittenberg ended up higher than Wooster in the final Great Lakes regional rankings. Too bad the committee never decided to release those...

Hugenerd

Quote from: Hugenerd on March 03, 2012, 11:22:42 PM
Quote from: mailsy on March 03, 2012, 11:19:39 PM
Here are our Sweet 16 teams:

Upper Left Bracket:  Eastern Connecticut vs Cabrini, Scranton vs Middlebury.  Lower Left Bracket: North Central vs Wittenberg, Illinois Weleyan vs Wooster.  Upper Right Bracket: Franklin & Marshall vs Amherst, Farmingdale State vs Staten Island.  Lower Right Bracket: Whitworth vs Virginia Wesleyan, Wheaton vs UW-Whitewater.

There are some good matchups next Friday night.  Now we wait 'til tomorrow at 3:00pm.

Good luck to all the teams remaining!! :)

Farmingdale State got blown out by MIT, so they will not be playing next Friday.

Here are the actual matchups for next Friday:

http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/basketball-men/d3

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

You could have linked to the D3hoops.com bracket, you know...

And yes, I suspect Wooster will be given the nod... since they did not travel and Wittenberg did, it gives the indication that Wooster was ranked higher than Witt. In that case, unless there is a geographical reason, the high ranked team tends to hold onto the hosting opportunity.

As for F&M, the hook might be Cabrini... will the NCAA reward both MA teams a hosting chance and bring everyone to them... or will they reward it to just one of them to keep one of those pods in the Northeast... that is where geography may become a factor.

Just some thoughts as I sit at the airport in Louisville getting ready to board my plan... ronk, I am well... but clearly this area is shook up from Friday's storms. Worse in Kentucky history, apparently, and Friday was interesting (we did have to go to below ground on court level, but never had to get into the locker rooms for safety).

I also heard several stories of a few degrees of separation from those killed, homes destroyed, or near misses... my thoughts and prayers are certainly in Kentucky and Indiana (along with Tennessee) after Friday's experience.
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David Collinge

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I think geography played a part in why Wittenberg (who swept Wooster in the regular season matchups) traveled while Wooster hosted. Sending the presumably lower-seeded Wooster to Transy's pod (Transy being the clear #2 seed in the sectional) creates a travel problem (Randolph-Macon is 507 miles from Wittenberg but just 464 from Wooster), so they sent Wittenberg instead. The two rivals had very similar tournament resumes apart from the head-to-head, so it wasn't too egregious to put one of them on the road while the other got to host. Now that the geographic problems are no more (both CCIW schools are well within 500 miles of both Witt and Woo), I think they will revert to what has to have been the correct seeding and give the sectional to Wittenberg.

fritzdis

The bracket (http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/basketball-men/d3)looks to be updated with hosts - Midd, F&M, Wooster, and WW.

Cali-Scot

Pat Coleman just tweeted:

Men's sectionals will be held at: Wooster, UWW, F&M, Middlebury.

Greek Tragedy

Must be a little of an upset that Amherst isn't hosting over F&M.
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Amherst can't host because the women are.