2012 Division III NCAA Tournament

[Mr. Ypsi]

Why does the video cut off 3 seconds after the game ends? Would be nice if us fans could see a bit of the celebrating and maybe the announcers speaking with the coach and a few players. D Mac and his team did a great job calling the game and then get cut off in mid sentence. NCAA could at least leave the video feed up for a while longer. This is bad.

Women's feed cut off just the same way.  Was hoping to watch the Titans get the trophy, etc while watching UWW get theirs right here in front of me at the Salem Civic Center.

Strange.

The NCAA  did the same thing after both semi final games last night. Cut off within seconds of the game ending. Very rude of them to do this to the fans and the announcers, who are still announcing (and unknown to them, no one is listening).

Totally agree.  I was really looking forward to the second IWU team in two weeks cutting down nets at DeVos!   In addition to seeing the trophy presentation (and, I am assuming) Olivia Lett getting the FF MVP.

[magicman]

Why does the video cut off 3 seconds after the game ends? Would be nice if us fans could see a bit of the celebrating and maybe the announcers speaking with the coach and a few players. D Mac and his team did a great job calling the game and then get cut off in mid sentence. NCAA could at least leave the video feed up for a while longer. This is bad.

Women's feed cut off just the same way.  Was hoping to watch the Titans get the trophy, etc while watching UWW get theirs right here in front of me at the Salem Civic Center.

Strange.

The NCAA  did the same thing after both semi final games last night. Cut off within seconds of the game ending. Very rude of them to do this to the fans and the announcers, who are still announcing (and unknown to them, no one is listening).

Totally agree.  I was really looking forward to the second IWU team in two weeks cutting down nets at DeVos!   In addition to seeing the trophy presentation (and, I am assuming) Olivia Lett getting the FF MVP.

Perhaps D Mac, with his connections to the NCAA people, could let them know how poor this appears to the fans and perhaps (but I won't hold my breath) this might not happen next year.

[magicman]

Is there a box score of the All Star game available anywhere?

[gordonmann]

Magic Man:

I have it in hard copy.

Burridge scored 10 points in 25 minutes. 5-for-8, 1-for-3 from three, 3 boards, 4 assists, 1 steals, no turnovers.

Temguoa scored 11 points in 24 minutes. 5-for-9, 1-for-4 from three, 5 boards, 2 assists, 1 turnover.

I know you follow the East region players closely. If you (or anyone else) wants anything more, let me know.

[magicman]

Magic Man:

I have it in hard copy.

Burridge scored 10 points in 25 minutes. 5-for-8, 1-for-3 from three, 3 boards, 4 assists, 1 steals, no turnovers.

Temguoa scored 11 points in 24 minutes. 5-for-9, 1-for-4 from three, 5 boards, 2 assists, 1 turnover.

I know you follow the East region players closely. If you (or anyone else) wants anything more, let me know.

Gordon,
Thank you very much for those stats on my East guys. Seemed like Burridge had more than that but it was hard to follow the points scored with all the interviews, which are always neat to see. I was pretty sure Burridge had a 3 pointer which you confirmed for me, 2 dunks, and 2 other baskets but thought I might have missed others. Which leads to the question... was he 5x8 from inside the arc and 1x3 from downtown which would be 13 points? I only ask because if he was 5x8 with a 3 pointer he should have more than 10 points.

On another note, could you please post a link to the NCAA tournament book that you have spent so much time on. I know it was on the front page for a day or two but I can't find it anywhere. Thanks again.

[njf1003]

While it isn't as good as live, at least the NCAA did make an archive available:
http://www.ncaa.com/video/basketball-men/2012-03-18/diii-mbb-championship-game-fullreplay

and they did go on talking after the broadcast cut out.

[gordonmann]

Here's the box score and play-by-play statistics.

http://www.nabc.org/NABC_Releases/releases/2011-12_NABC_Releases/031712-nabc-allstar-stats.pdf

Here's the Conference Guidebook.

http://static.psbin.com/2/h/xlzowzzk5zovwr/2011-2012_Conference_Guidebook_v1.pdf

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Thanks for the link, nfl...

[magicman]

Here's the box score and play-by-play statistics.

http://www.nabc.org/NABC_Releases/releases/2011-12_NABC_Releases/031712-nabc-allstar-stats.pdf

Here's the Conference Guidebook.

http://static.psbin.com/2/h/xlzowzzk5zovwr/2011-2012_Conference_Guidebook_v1.pdf

Gordon,

Thanks for those links. That's one heck of a  job you did on the Conference Guidebook. Plus k and then some.

[Greek Tragedy]

While it isn't as good as live, at least the NCAA did make an archive available:
http://www.ncaa.com/video/basketball-men/2012-03-18/diii-mbb-championship-game-fullreplay

and they did go on talking after the broadcast cut out.

Great to see the game!

[ronk]

  Some thoughts on the season:

    There didn't seem to be any incorrect inregion team status this year with the switch to the new data support group, so it was a fear of mine that didn't materialize;

Concerning men/women's teams of same school worthy of hosting on the same weekend in the NCAA tourney:  neither should be penalized because of the success of the other; let them both host and alternate the afternoon/evening times by weekend(e.g., women play in afternoon; men in evening(Fri/Sat)on 1st weekend and switch on second(next) weekend) rather than sending one of them on the road to the ostensibly 2nd best team in the group; any inconvenience(crowding) pales in comparison to losing out on an earned advantage - it has nothing to do with the idea that hosting does not guarantee winning.     

[BoBo]

While it isn't as good as live, at least the NCAA did make an archive available:
http://www.ncaa.com/video/basketball-men/2012-03-18/diii-mbb-championship-game-fullreplay

and they did go on talking after the broadcast cut out.

Great to see the game!

Yes, great to see it again ... it would be super-special if the audio was in-sync with the video, however!!     (it's a second or two off)

[Just Bill]

  Some thoughts on the season:

    There didn't seem to be any incorrect inregion team status this year with the switch to the new data support group, so it was a fear of mine that didn't materialize;

Concerning men/women's teams of same school worthy of hosting on the same weekend in the NCAA tourney:  neither should be penalized because of the success of the other; let them both host and alternate the afternoon/evening times by weekend(e.g., women play in afternoon; men in evening(Fri/Sat)on 1st weekend and switch on second(next) weekend) rather than sending one of them on the road to the ostensibly 2nd best team in the group; any inconvenience(crowding) pales in comparison to losing out on an earned advantage - it has nothing to do with the idea that hosting does not guarantee winning.   

You've only detailed one of the issues that arises. Your need twice as many hotel rooms and as we've seen often hotel rooms on short notice are already in short supply. You need ample locker room space and not all facilities could do it. You need 12 hours of available practice time on Thursday so each team gets their allotted 90 minutes on the court. You need 8 hours of shootaround time in addition to time for four games on Friday to give each team their allotted time. Not all athletic departments have complete scheduling control over their facilities. Finally, you need to guarantee each tournament is getting the respect of a genuine NCAA tournament experience and not relegating one of them to JV status.

At any facility, at the very least, it will be difficult. At some facilities, it would be impossible.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Just Bill's points are very valid... and then you would get into a "who plays when" along with some teams having to play at say 1 PM... does that seem like the right time for an NCAA Tournament game say in the Sweet 16? Seems like a game that is being buried.

The rotation system that is in place has worked for years... and hasn't been a problem. Everyone knows what the rules are going in... there are no surprises. It is what it is... and the NCAA has already stated that they are hot hosting two full pods at one location on the same weekend. (They put the rotation system in place to keep athletic departments from having to chose one team over the other... the decision is already made.)

[ronk]

  Some thoughts on the season:

    There didn't seem to be any incorrect inregion team status this year with the switch to the new data support group, so it was a fear of mine that didn't materialize;

Concerning men/women's teams of same school worthy of hosting on the same weekend in the NCAA tourney:  neither should be penalized because of the success of the other; let them both host and alternate the afternoon/evening times by weekend(e.g., women play in afternoon; men in evening(Fri/Sat)on 1st weekend and switch on second(next) weekend) rather than sending one of them on the road to the ostensibly 2nd best team in the group; any inconvenience(crowding) pales in comparison to losing out on an earned advantage - it has nothing to do with the idea that hosting does not guarantee winning.   

You've only detailed one of the issues that arises. Your need twice as many hotel rooms and as we've seen often hotel rooms on short notice are already in short supply. You need ample locker room space and not all facilities could do it. You need 12 hours of available practice time on Thursday so each team gets their allotted 90 minutes on the court. You need 8 hours of shootaround time in addition to time for four games on Friday to give each team their allotted time. Not all athletic departments have complete scheduling control over their facilities. Finally, you need to guarantee each tournament is getting the respect of a genuine NCAA tournament experience and not relegating one of them to JV status.

At any facility, at the very least, it will be difficult. At some facilities, it would be impossible.

  I agree with all your points; I was espousing a utopian view that only considered the pure competition, not the realities of executing the tournament.