2013 Division III NCAA Tournament

[Ralph Turner]

You also have to remember that they'll go back to pods next year.  In a normal d3 tournament, they'd likely be meeting somewhere in PA to play, so both teams would be driving.  Then again, they might bring all four teams to WPI - you never know.

Driving is part of the gig sometimes.  Win more games, less chance of a long drive.  Pretty simple formula.

Live in Texas or the northwest and play one and hopefully two games in the area and then be flown three hours away. 

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

The games will be broadcast on CBS Sports Network and simulcast on NCAA.com. Usually NCAA.com will have its own broadcast as well, but I have been told by those at Turner (where I have been trying unsuccessfully to secure a gig for any games even in Salem) that this year they will simulcast.

[7express]

So at least we get a TV broadcoast this year on the men's side at least.

[Greek Tragedy]

Home teams were 24-6 with two of those losses being Stevens (played at Lehman College) and Ramapo (played at Nyack). Rose-Hulman, Trinity (TX), Hampden-Sydney and Springfield also failed to protect homecourt.

[mailsy]

Home teams were 24-6 with two of those losses being Stevens (played at Lehman College) and Ramapo (played at Nyack). Rose-Hulman, Trinity (TX), Hampden-Sydney and Springfield also failed to protect homecourt.

Here's hoping my team(Cabrini) keeps winning on the road! 

[7express]

I know this is OT, but since we were just talking about getting the championship game on TV.

Looking through my DVR guide I've found four NAIA conference championship games on TV in the last 2 days.  And of course both division 2 & division 1 NAIA men's and women's championship games are on CBSSports.  Why doesn't some D-3 conference get there championship games on Fox College Sports??  Granted, it's invisible and will pretty much be watched by no one except me, but at least it's a start and gets airtime.  I saw the WIAC championship game on FCS last year, but didn't notice it this year.  Anyone know why none of the conferences get their championship games to FCS??

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I know this is OT, but since we were just talking about getting the championship game on TV.

Looking through my DVR guide I've found four NAIA conference championship games on TV in the last 2 days.  And of course both division 2 & division 1 NAIA men's and women's championship games are on CBSSports.  Why doesn't some D-3 conference get there championship games on Fox College Sports??  Granted, it's invisible and will pretty much be watched by no one except me, but at least it's a start and gets airtime.  I saw the WIAC championship game on FCS last year, but didn't notice it this year.  Anyone know why none of the conferences get their championship games to FCS??

Lackluster PR?  I imagine the ratings those games would get is roughly equivalent to whatever taped show they run it its place.  Why send a crew out to do a live game when it's going to cost more money and be harder to convince sponsors to buy time for?

I'm not sure if that's it or not - but at some point it's a pure cost calculation that we're just not going to win.

[Ethelred the Unready]

I know this is OT, but since we were just talking about getting the championship game on TV.

Looking through my DVR guide I've found four NAIA conference championship games on TV in the last 2 days.  And of course both division 2 & division 1 NAIA men's and women's championship games are on CBSSports.  Why doesn't some D-3 conference get there championship games on Fox College Sports??  Granted, it's invisible and will pretty much be watched by no one except me, but at least it's a start and gets airtime.  I saw the WIAC championship game on FCS last year, but didn't notice it this year.  Anyone know why none of the conferences get their championship games to FCS??

Maybe they could just pick up the "local" feed.  I've seen/heard some pretty entertaining college announcers

Lackluster PR?  I imagine the ratings those games would get is roughly equivalent to whatever taped show they run it its place.  Why send a crew out to do a live game when it's going to cost more money and be harder to convince sponsors to buy time for?

I'm not sure if that's it or not - but at some point it's a pure cost calculation that we're just not going to win.

[Greek Tragedy]

Just fixing the quotes...    

I know this is OT, but since we were just talking about getting the championship game on TV.

Looking through my DVR guide I've found four NAIA conference championship games on TV in the last 2 days.  And of course both division 2 & division 1 NAIA men's and women's championship games are on CBSSports.  Why doesn't some D-3 conference get there championship games on Fox College Sports??  Granted, it's invisible and will pretty much be watched by no one except me, but at least it's a start and gets airtime.  I saw the WIAC championship game on FCS last year, but didn't notice it this year.  Anyone know why none of the conferences get their championship games to FCS??

Lackluster PR?  I imagine the ratings those games would get is roughly equivalent to whatever taped show they run it its place.  Why send a crew out to do a live game when it's going to cost more money and be harder to convince sponsors to buy time for?

I'm not sure if that's it or not - but at some point it's a pure cost calculation that we're just not going to win.

Maybe they could just pick up the "local" feed.  I've seen/heard some pretty entertaining college announcers

[Greek Tragedy]

Thought it would be interesting to see how the regionally ranked teams have done in the tourney in the 1st round.  I've included the Pool A teams that weren't regionally ranked as well.

	ATL
RNK3	TEAM	CONF.	RESULTS
1	Ramapo	NJAC	LOST to Morrisville State 86-78
2	Old.Westbury	SKY
3	Rutgers.Newark  POOL C	NJAC	LOST to Christopher Newport 84-72
4	RicardStockton	NJAC
5	SUNY.Purchase	SKY	LOST to WPI 80-67
	NEVER RANKED
	Staten.Island	CUNYAC	LOST to Catholic 67-61
	EAST
RNK3	TEAM	CONF.
1	Rochester  POOL C	UAA	BEAT Fitchburg State 91-86; vs. Ithaca
2	SUNY.Cortland	SUNYAC	BEAT  Elms 85-59; vs. Middlebury
3	Stevens   POOL C	E8	LOST to Randolph-Macon 69-60
4	Plattsburgh.State  POOL C	SUNYAC	BEAT Husson 84-63; vs. Amherst
5	Hobart	LL	LOST to RIC 62-59 OT
6	Oswego.State	SUNYAC
	NEVER RANKED
	Morrisville State	NEAC	BEAT Ramapo 86-78; vs. RIC
	DROPPING OUT
NR	Ithaca	E8	BEAT  Springfield 89-77; vs. Rochester
NR	NYU	UAA
NR	SUNY.Geneseo	SUNYAC
	GT LK
RNK3	TEAM	CONF.
1	Wooster  POOL C	NCAC	BEAT Penn. St.-Behrend 62-44; vs. Dickinson
2	Ohio.Wesleyan	NCAC	BEAT St. Vincent 84-75; vs. Cabrini
3	St.Vincent	PrAC	LOST to Ohio Wesleyan 84-75
4	Thomas.More	PrAC
5	Capital	OAC
6	Calvin	MIAA	BEAT  Rose-Hulman 72-52; vs. Stevens Point
	DROPPING OUT
NR	Marietta	OAC	LOST to Dickinson 80-65
	NEVER RANKED
	Penn St.-Behrend	AMCC	LOST to Wooster 62-44
	MID-ATL
RNK3	TEAM	CONF.
1	Alvernia	MACC	BEAT  Albertus Magnus 97-78; vs. St. Mary's
2	Catholic	LAND	BEAT  Staten Island 67-61; vs. Williams
3	Albright	MACC
4	St.Mary's(Md.)	CAC	BEAT  MIT 85-76; vs. Alvernia
5	Wesley  POOL C	CAC	LOST to Williams 79-78
6	Scranton	LAND
7	DeSales	MACF
8	Salisbury	CAC
9	Frank&Marsh	CC
	DROPPING OUT
NR	Cabrini	CSAC	BEAT  Hampden-Sydney 80-78; vs. Ohio Wesleyan
NR	Dickinson	CC	BEAT  Marietta 80-65; vs. Wooster
NR	Arcadia	MACC
	NEVER RANKED
	Delaware Valley	MACF	LOST to ViWU 76-61
	MW
RNK3	TEAM	CONF.
1	Illinois.Wesleyan    POOL C	CCIW	BEAT Transylvania 80-71; vs. Washington U.
2	WashingtonU.	UAA	BEAT Spalding 70-61; vs. IWU
3	Wheaton  POOL C	CCIW	BEAT St. Norbert 59-58; vs. St. Thomas
4	North Central.(IL)	CCIW	BEAT Centre 66-50; vs. Whitewater
5	Transylvania  POOL C	HCAC	LOST to IWU 80-71
6	Rose.Hulman	HCAC	LOST to Calvin 72-52
7	St.NorbertSt.Norbert	MWC	LOST to Wheaton 59-58
8	Augustana	CCIW
	NEVER RANKED
	Aurora	NATHCON	LOST to St. Thomas 91-62
	NE
RNK3	TEAM	CONF.
1	Amherst	NESCAC	vs. Plattsburgh State
2	WPI	NEWMAC	BEAT SUNY-Purchase 80-67; vs. RMC
3	Williams POOL C	NESCAC	BEAT Wesley 79-78; vs. Catholic
4	RIC	LEC	BEAT Hobart 62-59 OT; vs. Morrisville State
5	Middlebury POOL C	NESCAC	BEAT Curry 68-66; vs. Cortland State
6	MIT  POOL C	NEWMAC	LOST to St. Mary's 85-76
7	Springfield  POOL C	NEWMAC	LOST to Ithaca 89-77
8	Brandeis	UAA
9	Curry	CCC	LOST to Middlebury 68-66
10	Westfield State	MASCAC
11	East.Conn.State	LEC
12	Tufts	NESCAC
	DROPPING OUT
NR	Albertus.Magnus	GNAC	LOST to Alvernia 97-78
	NEVER RANKED
	Fitchburg State	MASCAC	LOST to Rochester 91-66
	Husson	NAC	LOST to Plattsburgh St. 84-63
	Elms	NECC	LOST to Cortland St. 85-59
	SOUTH
RNK3	TEAM	CONF.
1	Virginia.Wesleyan POOL C	ODAC	BEAT Delaware Valley 76-61; vs. Christopher Newport
2	Hampden.Sydney  POOL C	ODAC	LOST to Cabrini 80-78
3	MHB  POOL C	ASC	vs. Concordia-Texas
4	Chris.Newport	USAC	BEAT Rutgers-Newark 84-72; vs. VWU
5	Emory  POOL C	UAA	BEAT Randolph 77-56; vs. Whitworth
6	Concordia(TX)	ASC	BEAT Trinity-Texas 87-83; vs. MHB
7	Texas.Dallas	ASC
8	Randolph  POOL C	ODAC	LOST to Emory 77-56
	DROPPING OUT
NR	Lynchburg	ODAC
NR	Guilford	ODAC
	NEVER RANKED
	Randolph-Macon	ODAC	BEAT Stevens 69-60; vs WPI
	Trinity	SCAC	LOST to Concordia-Texas 87-83
	Spalding	SLIAC	LOST to Washington U. 70-61
	Centre POOL B	SAA	LOST to North Central 66-50
	WEST
RNK3	TEAM	CONF.
1	St.Thomas	MIAC	BEAT Aurora 91-62; vs. Wheaton
2	Stevens.Point POOL C	WIAC	BEAT Northwestern 71-54; vs. Calvin
3	Whitewater	WIAC	BEAT Dubuque 58-42; vs. North Central
4	Whitworth	NWC	BEAT Redlands 75-69; vs. Emory
5	Buena.Vista	IIAC
6	Stout	WIAC
7	Con.Moorhead	MIAC
8	Augsburg	MIAC
9	Whitman	NWC
	DROPPING OUT
NR	Luther	IIAC
	NEVER RANKED
	Dubuque	IIAC	LOST to Whitewater 58-42
	Redlands	SCIAC	LOST to Whitworth 75-69
	Northwestern	UMAC	LOST to Stevens Point 71-54

[Greek Tragedy]

Just looking at the regionally ranked teams and not the SOS or anything like that, I'm trying to figure out what were true upsets in the 1st round.

I suppose Calvin over RHIT on the road was a slight upset, if any. 
Even though on the road, not sure if Concordia-Texas's win over Trinity was much of an upset.
Morrisville State over Ramapo was definitely an upset.
Randolph-Macon over Stevens is one.
I really don't think Dickinson over Marietta is one since it was at Dickinson.
Hampden-Sydney losing to Cabrini at home is one.
Ithaca winning on the road at Springfield is a slight upset.

What do you think?

[ronk]

 The underrated MA had a good 1st round going 5-1 for ever-ranked teams vs. other regions and the loss was a 1-pointer on the road:

   MID-ATL   

   RNK3   TEAM                   CONF.   
   1         Alvernia               MACC   BEAT  Albertus Magnus 97-78; vs. St. Mary's   
   2         Catholic               LAND    BEAT  Staten Island 67-61; vs. Williams   
   3         Albright               MACC         
   4         St.Mary's(Md.)     CAC      BEAT  MIT 85-76; vs. Alvernia   
   5         Wesley  POOL C    CAC     LOST to Williams 79-78   
   6         Scranton              LAND
   7         DeSales               MACF 
   8         Salisbury             CAC   
   9         Frank&Marsh        CC       

   DROPPING OUT   
   NR      Cabrini                 CSAC     BEAT  Hampden-Sydney 80-78; vs. Ohio Wesleyan   
   NR      Dickinson             CC         BEAT  Marietta 80-65; vs. Wooster   
   NR      Arcadia                MACC   

[sac]

Just looking at the regionally ranked teams and not the SOS or anything like that, I'm trying to figure out what were true upsets in the 1st round.

I suppose Calvin over RHIT on the road was a slight upset, if any. 
Even though on the road, not sure if Concordia-Texas's win over Trinity was much of an upset.
Morrisville State over Ramapo was definitely an upset.
Randolph-Macon over Stevens is one.
I really don't think Dickinson over Marietta is one since it was at Dickinson.
Hampden-Sydney losing to Cabrini at home is one.
Ithaca winning on the road at Springfield is a slight upset.

What do you think?

Using efficiency/schedule adjusted efficiency I had only 3

Dickenson over Marietta.....but a home court adjustment might have made that a toss up
Cabrini over Hampden-Sydney
Ithaca over Springfield.....was actually a pretty big upset

[magicman]

Just looking at the regionally ranked teams and not the SOS or anything like that, I'm trying to figure out what were true upsets in the 1st round.

I suppose Calvin over RHIT on the road was a slight upset, if any. 
Even though on the road, not sure if Concordia-Texas's win over Trinity was much of an upset.
Morrisville State over Ramapo was definitely an upset.
Randolph-Macon over Stevens is one.
I really don't think Dickinson over Marietta is one since it was at Dickinson.
Hampden-Sydney losing to Cabrini at home is one.
Ithaca winning on the road at Springfield is a slight upset.

What do you think?

Using efficiency/schedule adjusted efficiency I had only 3

Dickenson over Marietta.....but a home court adjustment might have made that a toss up
Cabrini over Hampden-Sydney
Ithaca over Springfield.....was actually a pretty big upset

sac,
Are you saying you don't think Morrisville State over Ramapo was an upset?

[sac]

Just looking at the regionally ranked teams and not the SOS or anything like that, I'm trying to figure out what were true upsets in the 1st round.

I suppose Calvin over RHIT on the road was a slight upset, if any. 
Even though on the road, not sure if Concordia-Texas's win over Trinity was much of an upset.
Morrisville State over Ramapo was definitely an upset.
Randolph-Macon over Stevens is one.
I really don't think Dickinson over Marietta is one since it was at Dickinson.
Hampden-Sydney losing to Cabrini at home is one.
Ithaca winning on the road at Springfield is a slight upset.

What do you think?

Using efficiency/schedule adjusted efficiency I had only 3

Dickenson over Marietta.....but a home court adjustment might have made that a toss up
Cabrini over Hampden-Sydney
Ithaca over Springfield.....was actually a pretty big upset

sac,
Are you saying you don't think Morrisville State over Ramapo wasn't an upset?

Morrisville's eff was 1 point higher than Ramapo, adjusting for schedule Ramapo was 6 higher.   Its a close one.

The three I listed were the only 3 where the winner had a lower eff and adjusted eff. 

Whether I personally think it was an upset is a different question.