2013 Division III NCAA Tournament

[Ralph Turner]

Plus Centenary LA in 2014-15 and minus Mississippi College in 2013-14, which is going to D-II.

[Pat Coleman]

Hah, that didn't take long:

http://www.wilson.edu/news/detail.aspx?pageaction=ViewSinglePublic&LinkID=1523&ModuleID=31

[ziggy]

Hah, that didn't take long:

http://www.wilson.edu/news/detail.aspx?pageaction=ViewSinglePublic&LinkID=1523&ModuleID=31

Guessing he'll use the "playing time" card a lot on the recruiting trail.

[Pat Coleman]

Hah, that didn't take long:

http://www.wilson.edu/news/detail.aspx?pageaction=ViewSinglePublic&LinkID=1523&ModuleID=31

Guessing he'll use the "playing time" card a lot on the recruiting trail.

That and the male-to-female ratio.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Hah, that didn't take long:

http://www.wilson.edu/news/detail.aspx?pageaction=ViewSinglePublic&LinkID=1523&ModuleID=31

I was going to say... because I already knew the job was open for awhile.

[Pat Coleman]

Hah, that didn't take long:

http://www.wilson.edu/news/detail.aspx?pageaction=ViewSinglePublic&LinkID=1523&ModuleID=31

I was going to say... because I already knew the job was open for awhile.

If you know and don't say anything, it isn't very useful. Seriously, I only found out a few days ago they were adding men.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I heard about it a few weeks ago and discussed it with someone... but to be honest, I was doing so much I forgot you weren't the person I was talking to - sorry!

[ronk]

OT D1 bracket question
  2 of the play-in games didn't involve 16 seeds: Boise-LaSalle(13 seed) and Middle Tenn-St. Mary's(11 seed). Why was this? St. Mary's, for example, would have had to win one more game than either 16 seed W. Kentucky or Southern to win the championship.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

OT D1 bracket question
  2 of the play-in games didn't involve 16 seeds: Boise-LaSalle(13 seed) and Middle Tenn-St. Mary's(11 seed). Why was this? St. Mary's, for example, would have had to win one more game than either 16 seed W. Kentucky or Southern to win the championship.

Because it should be the last 8 at large teams in the play in games but the NCAA would never do that. We're lucky that they do it 2 and 2 since back when there was just one play-in game it was the 16 seeds rather than the at-large teams.

[ronk]

OK, thanks-sounds like a compromise; didn't comprehend what the rationale might be.

[Just Bill]

When they expanded to 68 they promised that they wouldn't put the 8 "worst" teams in those first four games (partly for TV ratings too). So four of the teams are the four the committee judged to be the worst in the field of 68, but the other four teams are the four lowest ranked at-large teams. Since the lowest at-large team is generally seeded higher than the lowest automatic qualifier, they slide those four into whatever seed number they likely should be. Usually 11-14 depending on how the brackets shake out.

[wally_wabash]

OT D1 bracket question
  2 of the play-in games didn't involve 16 seeds: Boise-LaSalle(13 seed) and Middle Tenn-St. Mary's(11 seed). Why was this? St. Mary's, for example, would have had to win one more game than either 16 seed W. Kentucky or Southern to win the championship.

There are a couple of ways to look at it.  The NCAA doesn't want people to think of those Tuesday/Wednesday games in Dayton as play-in games, so they called them first round games.  You can think of it as 60 teams having been given a bye to the second round.  It's silly, but that would be how the wizards in Indy want you to think of it. 

I'm actually surprised that with the creation of a new league next year they didn't shoehorn a 69th team in somehow.  That's how we got beyond 64 in the first place...when a group of teams split off from the WAC to form the MWC, the rest of D1 hoops didn't want the new automatic bid to take away from the at-large pool.  So they added an AQ and had 65 teams and made some poor league champion from a low-major league pay the freight by having to play for the right to be in the field of 64, which they had already earned by winning their league. 

I generally dislike the first four games, but the NCAA has struck a bit of luck with those games by seeing some of those teams become big stories by having tournament success (Virginia Commonwealth to the Final Four in 2011, LaSalle to the Sweet 16 this year) so those games aren't going anywhere. 

[Ralph Turner]

Wichita State in the Final Four...

Are they truly a "Mid-Major"?  How come all of these mid-majors haven't gotten the memo to fold like a cheap chair,  to shut up and go sit in the corner? 

Harvard?  FCGU?  Lots of parity in D-1.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

It's a Randolph-Macon grad ('85)...

[Greek Tragedy]

Mary Hardin-Baylor is playing Amherst, right? 

For the last two weeks the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has Amherst playing St. Mary's! Duh!

No respect!