Pool C -- 2012

[Mr. Ypsi]

What's really fun is that in a little over 24 hours, everything we've talked about in here since Wednesday afternoon gets scratched and we start all over again.   

Yup--and then the next week, it happens again and you have to work even quicker because they announce the actual brackets and you can't really post possible selections after the real thing is out

Actually, fans of those teams who almost got in do it every year!

[MonroviaCat]

What's really fun is that in a little over 24 hours, everything we've talked about in here since Wednesday afternoon gets scratched and we start all over again.   

Yup--and then the next week, it happens again and you have to work even quicker because they announce the actual brackets and you can't really post possible selections after the real thing is out

Actually, fans of those teams who almost got in do it every year!

LOL, +K spot on!

[smedindy]

Well, scratch one off the board at least. Wabash was totally outplayed by Oberlin. Oberlin has some talent, but man, this was an awful loss for Wabash. Still a three-way NCAC tie possibility with Witt, OWU and Kenyon and I believe Witt will have the AQ still. OWU is probably legit on the board now as a "C" contender.

[MonroviaCat]

Well, scratch one off the board at least. Wabash was totally outplayed by Oberlin. Oberlin has some talent, but man, this was an awful loss for Wabash. Still a three-way NCAC tie possibility with Witt, OWU and Kenyon and I believe Witt will have the AQ still. OWU is probably legit on the board now as a "C" contender.

Bethel loses and Corcordia will be offically lost in a few minutes----either of them still gonna get in?

[LaCollegeFan]

LC rolled over Mississippi College today 70-28 and Hardin-Simmons defeated TLU in 2 OT, setting up a huge game next week. Can't wait!

[Mr. Ypsi]

In the CCIW, NCC lost to Wheaton, but a late TD kept them close enough that they still win the AQ - IF it is a 3-way tie of Wheaton, NCC, and Elmhurst.  IF Elmhurst loses to IWU next week (which no longer seems likely, as the Titans seem in total freefall since losing their qb), Wheaton would have the AQ by h-to-h (in which case NCC would join the 2-loss bubble teams for pool C).  (Assuming, of course, that NCC regroups against suddenly resurgent Augustana.)

[Mr. Ypsi]

What's really fun is that in a little over 24 hours, everything we've talked about in here since Wednesday afternoon gets scratched and we start all over again.   

This turned out to be an understatement, with Wabash, Bethel, and C-M all getting whacked!

[hazzben]

Well, scratch one off the board at least. Wabash was totally outplayed by Oberlin. Oberlin has some talent, but man, this was an awful loss for Wabash. Still a three-way NCAC tie possibility with Witt, OWU and Kenyon and I believe Witt will have the AQ still. OWU is probably legit on the board now as a "C" contender.

Bethel loses and Corcordia will be offically lost in a few minutes----either of them still gonna get in?

Both are precarious at this point. But St. Olaf is now a two loss team in the discussion because they picked up a win over a RRO. I doubt they beat UST, next week. But if they get ranked this week (outside shot, but they have some criteria arguments) it would give UST, Bethel and Concordia another RR result. In this scenario UST could potentially end up 3-0, Bethel 1-2 and Moorehead 1-2 against RRO.

Bottom line, this week just shows us that nothing is clear yet. Definitely some 2 loss team likely to get in, but if enough teams lose still today or next week things could get real crazy.

[HScoach]

Rough day for the Top 25.  This week's regional rankings are going to include quite a few 2 loss teams.  Weird year in D3.

[K-Mack]

Just killing time till Saturday at this point but here's a hypothetical:  What if St. Olaf beats Bethel and St. Thomas beats Concordia MH?  Do either of those teams (Bethel/CM) still make it?  Or does St. Olaf then jump into the picture?  Of course then there is next week when St. Olaf plays St. Thomas...if they managed to win that.....Could, potentially have St. Thomas still with Pool A but then 3-way tie for 2nd.....that could get quite muddy.....

No longer a hypothetical.

I think we have to let all the dust from today settle, and then figure everything out.

I actually came to this thread to find mention of the nine one-loss teams and see how many are actually still afloat ... but I got two jobs I should be doing right now instead, including updating the front page.

[K-Mack]

Updated.

OWU and Ill. Coll ... and Bridgewater State, which Wally did not mention and who is 9-1 but is guarded from losing in the NEFC championship game by not participating in it (Fram vs. Salve), might actually be today's big winners. We shall see.

Here are the 1-loss teams remaining in Pool C:

- Wabash or Wittenberg (one will likely win the AQ, the other goes to Pool C)
- OWU (hard to find a scenario that favors the Bishops for the NCAC AQ)
- Elmhurst
- Heidelberg
- Baldwin-Wallace (probably has a second loss coming via UMU)
- Rowan
- Bethel
- Concordia-Moorhead
- Illinois College

And that's it.  9 teams, one is almost certainly going to lose a second time (BW), another has a strong test coming (Concordia-Moorhead).  Elmhurst also has a game left with IWU which is not a gimme, especially if IWU can collect themselves a bit between now and 11/10.

[K-Mack]

I know this committee is very aware of PLU, LC, Huntingdon, UW-Platteville and other two-loss teams. But if they just went by one-loss teams (which they likely won't) all of the 2-L teams aren't past the brink yet.

It's now only a three-way tie in the NCAC between OWU, Witt and Kenyon ... not yet sure who comes out of that one with the AQ, but OWU might now have a shot in Pool C.

Rowan
Elmhurst (vs. 6-2 IWU)
Heidelberg (8-1 vs. 7-2 BW)
Witt/OWU
IC
Bridgewater State 9-1

Top-ranked 2-loss team.

Quite possible, given some of these less-than-impressive resumes (Do any of these teams have a win vs. an RRO?) that the two-loss teams get on the board and/or in ahead of them.

PLU gains a win vs. RRO is Willamette creeps into the West rankings.
LC gains one with a win vs. HSU.
UW-P is going to be 0-1 vs. RRO but have
North Central could be a fringe Pool C if it loses out on the AQ by virtue of Elmhurst losing. Win against Elmhurst would still count as one over an RRO.
Huntingdon L to Wesley ... any key wins?

Said all that w/out looking at SoS, which is HUGE.

[Hawks88]

Huntingdon L to Wesley ... any key wins?

Win over Hampden-Sydney and play Adrian week 11. #10 SOS that will go up with Adrian game.

[K-Mack]

Huntingdon L to Wesley ... any key wins?

Win over Hampden-Sydney and play Adrian week 11. #10 SOS that will go up with Adrian game.

Brain fried. I knew there were some. If Adrian sneaks in, you guys might be the first South at-large on the board.

Agree with you, Ypsi, about IWU playing without Gallik. 0-2 and outscored 74-7.

[Hawks88]

Huntingdon L to Wesley ... any key wins?

Win over Hampden-Sydney and play Adrian week 11. #10 SOS that will go up with Adrian game.

Brain fried. I knew there were some. If Adrian sneaks in, you guys might be the first South at-large on the board.

Agree with you, Ypsi, about IWU playing without Gallik. 0-2 and outscored 74-7.

Dude, Adrian's already in.  We just have to beat them now for it to matter.