Pool C -- 2012

[USee]

Wheaton is going to have the following resume:

.535 SOS (approx)
1-1 v RRO (both playoff teams, both road games)
7-2 record (5-0 at home)

Unless the North RAC ranks them ahead of OWU they will never get to the table. It's a real bummer there is no consistency between regional committees on the application of the criteria.

[ExTartanPlayer]

And what happens if Cal Lutheran loses.

They'd drop to 2 losses and have SoS numbers below PLU, Bethel and Concordia out West. Not to mention the rest of the two loss pool.

This isn't over yet. Exciting day!!

Who would win a three way tie between Chapman, Cal Lu, and Redlands?

[hazzben]

And what happens if Cal Lutheran loses.

They'd drop to 2 losses and have SoS numbers below PLU, Bethel and Concordia out West. Not to mention the rest of the two loss pool.

This isn't over yet. Exciting day!!

Who would win a three way tie between Chapman, Cal Lu, and Redlands?

If they utilize the Rosebowl rule, 2 loss Chapman, with its .397 SoS 

[shepherd]

Is my list right with only 3 one loss teams in pool c?  Rowan in the east, Elmhurst and Heidelberg in the North.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Is my list right with only 3 one loss teams in pool c?  Rowan in the east, Elmhurst and Heidelberg in the North.

Also OWU in the North.

[jknezek]

Waynesburg in the south 9-1

[smedindy]

And now we see what matters most to this committee (and each regional committee). One loss or better SOS with results against RR teams...

[hazzben]

Cal Lutheran not pulling out a win here could be interesting.

Assuming this happens...

PLU, Bethel, Concordia would all have better SoS numbers than CalLu. By a decent margin I think.

Cal Lutheran would have the H2H against PLU, the team with the best SoS.

Bethel, Concordia and CalLu would all be 1-1 against RRO (CalLu could be 1-2 if Chapman snuck in for the final ranking, but they have horrendous SoS numbers, so unlikely) and PLU 0-2.

How badly does losing the last game hurt CalLu? How do you order and separate out those 4 2 loss teams?

Does it just become CalLu, PLU, Bethel, Concordia?

Would Bethel and Concordia ever jump PLU and CalLu? Or is that just wishful Bethel/MIAC thinking?

[ExTartanPlayer]

And what happens if Cal Lutheran loses.

They'd drop to 2 losses and have SoS numbers below PLU, Bethel and Concordia out West. Not to mention the rest of the two loss pool.

This isn't over yet. Exciting day!!

Who would win a three way tie between Chapman, Cal Lu, and Redlands?

If they utilize the Rosebowl rule, 2 loss Chapman, with its .397 SoS 

That's why I asked...these teams will have VERY different at large resumes, so IF Chapman actually pulls it out vs Cal Lu, that really changes up the West board. Score still tied at 21 in that game.

[hazzben]

Cal Lutheran just went up 28 - 21

[hazzben]

And Chapman fumbles the KR, CalLu recovers and has the ball on the 15

EDIT: FG CalLu 31 - 21 with 10 to play

[ExTartanPlayer]

Presumably this is a relief to the rest of Pool C, since Chapman & Redlands don't look like strong C candidates, everyone else wants to see Cal Lu take the auto bid.

[hazzben]

Presumably this is a relief to the rest of Pool C, since Chapman & Redlands don't look like strong C candidates, everyone else wants to see Cal Lu take the auto bid.

Absolutely.

What will be interesting is what the Regional Committee's do with Waynesburg and OWU.

And then what the Selection Committee does with those results.

It's going to be a very telling Sunday: SoS/RRO v. W/L

[smedindy]

BTW, Bridgewater in the East has just one loss. So that's six one-loss teams in "C"

The North has already hinted that it favors W/L over anything else. The question is how far Waynesburg tumbles.

In my gut, the seven are:

Rowan
Heidelberg
Elmhurst
LC
PLU
Bethel
C-M

[shepherd]

BTW, Bridgewater in the East has just one loss. So that's six one-loss teams in "C"

The North has already hinted that it favors W/L over anything else. The question is how far Waynesburg tumbles.

In my gut, the seven are:

Rowan
Heidelberg
Elmhurst
LC
PLU
Bethel
C-M

I think Heidelburg is either stuck on the table at #169 9-1 .473 or they get jumped by Wheaton #71 8-2 .521  also Wabash #36 8-2 .540 per D3 SOS page. http://www.d3football.com/seasons/2012/schedule?tmpl=sos-template
with Endicott #21 8-2 .561 making the pool c selection.